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Author Topic: So bothered and ticked off about relationship towards suicide  (Read 241 times)
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« on: June 18, 2018, 03:04:58 »

This judgemental attitude towars suicide is so messed up, wrong and goes against common sense: people who end their lives should be shown empathy towards, not judged. You think they do it for fun? How can modern society like ours hold such predominant supersticious beleifs!

Have any of you experienced depression? People end their lives not because they want to die, buy because they can't bear living. The pain gets so severe the one can't stand it.
How can you judge a person who is in extreme pain?

And ofcourse religious take on suicide. I had some respect for bible. But now I ain't  got any, cause the more I think about the judgemental ideas it puts foreward about fiery depths of hell. The ommnipotent God puts an unbearable depression upon a person and then fries him up when he dies. Can't come up with more nonsensical crap doctrine.
People who judge are just aholes. Period. Including self-rightsious  religious muppets.
Anyway, just a rant,  it's been building up in me for some while

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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2018, 05:24:02 »

I understand. Yes.

It is important for everyone to express their feelings and emotions, (and thoughts.

This happening is not easy for anyone. We indeed are all one being and when a portion of us concludes in this way both compassion and confusion ring.

The energy, the whole of it needs and requires processing. Each will process according to their current depth and quality.

The processing will help grow us all.

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 04:49:17 »

It is one of those case by case things. There are huge differences between people in a state where they are likely to suicide / have suicided. Some of these people may have made a rational choice, others may have made a less reasonable choice. Most human situations are like that.

People in a terminal situation, where it costs them a lot of anguish to keep living... I think strong arguments can be made that it is logical and acceptable for those people to suicide.

Rational cases can be made that is is reasonable for people to suicide to avoid falling into the hands of a viscious enemy in a war or war-like situation.

A common component with people who are in a state where they are likely to suicide is that they believe, rightly or wrongly, that their situation will never improve. Determining how well-founded they are in this reasoning can be a helpful first step in considering how to help them. Many people can be put into a frenzied / irrational state by a temporary situation. Some of these people can be helped by a person who can give their situation perspective.

Most suicidal people resent being lied to or spoken to in an unnatural way by would-be helpers. One of the challenges for helping them is that you should be truthful, while helping them to gain a better outlook on reality, where appropriate.

Lives do have value, and generally should not be wasted casually if it can be helped.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 06:56:13 »

Probably more than ever, we live times in which willingly and unwillingly we hear /read random peoples' opinions; too many of them.

We can't really do much about changing others; it's only up to us to pick and choose and ignore. We don't have to react to everything others say / write.

Obviously, each human being lives in their own reality. This is why honest people sincerely see things differently.

We should focus on what we're individually doing, and creating, and stop blaming others for our inconveniences, stop passing judgment over things we don't understand, and take responsibility for what we, each one, are doing and saying.

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