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Author Topic: Cant find curiosity or motivation to relearn astral projection or telekinesis  (Read 651 times)
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« on: May 26, 2016, 05:19:01 »

I'm a victim of my own scientific and math advancement, that I see nothing unusual about astral projection or telekinesis other than the unlikely fine-tuning of it, a skill we learn. I learned it in year 2003 during college. I was very curious about it because, while I had a few accidents over the years, it was something new about the universe to me, a mystery to be solved, something to discover. But now when I think of putting in the time to relearn astral projection and telekinesis, all I can think of is the equations of waves and dimensions that match my experiences, that make it not surprising that it happens, that make it just an ordinary event in dimensions less often Humans are able to measure. For the same reason I dont venture out into a forest to see what combinations trees have grown, I have lost interest in the possible forms of reality in astral. It appears to me as lacking an important longterm stability needed for building structures on other structures, like I can change the "physical world". This is very frustrating, to think that nomatter what I do in astral it wont have much effect on how the universe works. It appears to me a many dimensional maze that has the same value as looking at and creating art but not the behaviors of machines or logical structures that build on other machines or logical structures. The life forms that can be made in astral dont seem to have the stability needed to build other things on. It all frustratingly makes so much sense to me what are the limits of possible realities, where we are and where we can go from here, what reality can become. I think I've hit the "hard wall of complexity".
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2016, 14:37:53 »

Maybe try a psychological approach to things rather than trying to force a change of beliefs. Couple hints
1. Your racing and you are entirely too busy. Slow down

2.  I would start with remote viewing. It's easier for someone who has a strong left brain dominance to crack the ice. Astral projection is called ERV in those circles. Once you get a bit of experience then you can work towards doing ERV if you want to. We have a section here in Astral pulse on remote viewing.

3. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4SJc4oKKe4E5wHouxVGzhA  this guy works with Telekenisis. You have to understand the world from a consciousness only perspective in order to make it work. 
4Tom Campbell calgary video on you tube is also very good. If you approach these skills using that philosophy it's much easier to break the ice.

 
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2016, 15:11:27 »

You are trying to force things (force always creates resistance) instead of watching it grow.

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For the same reason I don't venture out into a forest to see what combinations trees have grown,
seems to me you expect to find something new in what already exists in the outer world. Why not just go there and enjoy it's presence and beauty ? Go there, shut of your logical thinking, close your eyes and listen - you will be surprised what you can discover in this boring forest.

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It appears to me a many dimensional maze that has the same value as looking at and creating art
it indeed is a kind of art. Actually a atom has a lot of similarity to a piece of music - and it must change to be perceived as such. In it's frozen (dead) state it's just a probability waveform that describes where something *could* happen - if anyone would care who is not saying "why should I watch it, I know the result anyway ..."

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but not the behaviors of machines or logical structures that build on other machines or logical structures.
Logic behavior or equations as we know them are only valid in the physical world we live in. And even here the logic equations are no natural law but rather the result of the underlying system. In our computers [1 & 1 = 1] or [1 ^ 1 = 0] is only valid because the underlying system is unipolar binary. If you had a ternary, bipolar or fuzzy system the "logic" would behave differently and seem to us very unlogical. Such logic could e.g. result in forms that cancel each other out. Our system allows only for a simple variant of that. It is called interference and is used in noise canceling. If we could create the four forces/fields (or rather the 4D waveform) synthetically that creates the illusion of matter, we could create such strange behavior. There is a very good reason that such "logic" does not exist in our PMR: if it would be 'allowed' then two spheres placed beside each other would not combine to a larger structure, but instead anihilate each other and make the PMR collapse - but this doesn't mean that our limited understanding of logic is all that is possible.

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It appears to me as lacking an important long term stability needed for building structures on other structures, like I can change the "physical world". [...] The life forms that can be made in astral dont seem to have the stability needed to build other things on.
the forms in the PMR neither have that stability, but we don't notice that normally because the decay time is long enough. Everything is instable.

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It all frustratingly makes so much sense to me what are the limits of possible realities, where we are and where we can go from here, what reality can become.
The limit is your imagination. From your words I read that you are a logical/rational oriented (aka 'leftbrained') being. Rationalists mainly use existing things, analyze them, take them apart and can put them together in a different order - all based on existing things and laws.
To create new things you need inspiration. Something new can only exist outside the laws that define the system you are currently trapped in. Thus you must be able to tear down the walls that "define" (or limit) your thinking. Beings who can do this naturally we call creative 'artists' (aka 'rightbrained'). The difference between them both is that rationalists are externally oriented and artists are internally oriented (based on the thinking). Artists have/use the connection to the source, while rationalists ignore/deny it. But also rationalists can learn to use it.
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