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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2011, 10:44:15 »

Wait woot is afterlife? Do we call afterlife a place where we gonna be forever?

EDIT: i know its stupid question
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2011, 18:45:58 »

Thank you GodsProxy, Ryan and everyone here for your kind messages, I appreciate it very much and it is good to know that even online people are here to help you when you really need it. I have been heavely depressed for months now and I sleep so much every day that I'm almost guaranteed to experience OBEs and I can't tell you how badly I want to live in this "other world"

I feel like it is useless to experience all this pain here on Earth and even though some people are here to help you, WHY do we come here with no idea of where we come from and what we are suppose to accomplish, I think it is so stupid and that's why this world is so evil, we are left alone with all our problems and no one tries to make sense of anything, there is just a deep sense of chaos and real sadness.

I want to be happy, that's my only goal, my only wish, the only thing I'm pursuing every single day, but sadly, I think that there is no way to be happy on Earth, there are too much people, too much trouble, not enough space for everyone to realise each single dream. In the astral realms, just a single thought will change your world while here, a single thought is doing nothing and you have to lick people's as* for years to get what you want, it is so stupid, so unfair. On this earth you have to be mean to get what you want, you need to step over people and be a backstabber but quite franclky I dont want to deal with that and don't feel like I need to raise my voice to be heard or do anything else that requires too much effort on my part...it is just so ...stupid and evil!


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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2011, 19:41:24 »

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Earth is a no-fault realm of suffering.

How do you think we came to exist? Nothing could ever have existed, ever. It was a pure accident. Things happened this way because they happened this way.

Pure accident? Life itself cried out, for the love of God, let there have been life, and let it not have been pure torture forever.

Now we have to intervene. Suicidal? Depressed? Well, that gives you a unique take on reality. You can become one of the leaders in this world. I consider you a person who is facing reality, cold and hard, the way it is.

Dream/nothing/void/God. Life itself says, we will take it, take it, take it. We love you. We love you. We love you. We will help you! We will help you.

Thank you. I've said it in previous threads.

And King, thank you for owning up to the honest truth.

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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2011, 19:42:55 »

Earth is a no-fault realm of suffering.
What exactly do you mean by that?
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2011, 20:26:32 »

What exactly do you mean by that?

There aren't good guys and bad guys. There isn't really good and evil. There is only good. Actually the "evil" people tend to be more enlightened, as to the realities of life.

This is how we can explain that there is no good and evil, even when the evil guys practice torture, shoot innocent people, pray to satan to burn in hell, etc:

Look, as far as I can see, people are practicing astral travel in order to have a chance at life after the physical. This means there is a tacit agreement amongst people that we cannot assume that when we die, we safely exit the body. There is no scientific proof of a soul.

One of the first and most advanced books I read on astral travel mentioned that the author saw no evidence of the conciousness surviving physical death. I didn't understand that, and strongly disagreed with that, until recently. I now agree with that viewpoint based on different grounds.

My current understanding, to paraphrase another poster, is that we are astrals having physical experiences. That means we have been through eons of evolution, eons of technology going up and down. Eons of practice of astral travel, all in order to have a chance at life. So the current state of affairs, as far as I can see, is:

When you are born, you are "obfusticated" from the astral to the physical, probably or possibly from the astral realms, and your various senses mapped to the physical body. This means that your existence is spiritual, and your senses are spiritual. Your control mechanisms are mapped onto the spinal column from the spiritual to the physical. You cannot be aware of this - this means that someone else lovingly did it for you - and it also means that you yourself cannot undo the mapping. This prevents you from avoiding your responsibility in your physical incarnation. When you die, physically, you need to be "unmapped" from the physical. This historically would be the DT (Death Trapper's) job. Bear in mind, people could have all along being doing one thing assuming it meant one thing, and in reality it meant another thing.

Now to complicate matters further, there can be newly born physicals who do not know that they cannot truly die. These beings need to be initiated into "torture" - since they most likely will not learn astral travel to exit extent - while they are still alive. Torture might involve lovingly disintegrating the being, while still alive, and being fed into the eco system, ready for the next cycle of life. This action would then be perceived as "evil" by those who are not in the know. It seems like we have various levels of life here, and they all need to co-exist peacefully, so it would be necessary to have a good and an evil, so that everyone can live with each other, and justify their actions.

So back to the subject of - no fault. We have industries, we have people doing their jobs day to day, everyone is unhappy the majority of the time. Many people having fun and living the life - maybe these people have done their tour of duty and have earned a break.

Ok, so we are all evolving in understanding, especially and including me, so the above illustration isn't complete, but it does clearly illustrate, that some of the people we perceive as "evil" might be the most inconceivably beautiful and responsible beings on the planet.

"Fed back into the ecosystem" means that this process can evolve again, and we can have another chance at life.

Ok, on each line I am now going down a sequence of logic and up a ladder of understanding in my own mind. So to continue:

"Fed back into the ecosystem" means that this process can evolve again, and we can have another chance at life.
"Another chance at life" means that, in case we fail to make this one work, sometime in the far, far, far distant future, life will prevail, and we can continue.
"Fed back into the ecosystem": Every single cell in your body is stamped with your DNA. Your DNA is your true being. Thus theoretically if you had to mix up being A and being B in a bucket (all of their cells), you could be unmixed again and reconstructed back into the same original being.
"Chopped up into pieces and fed into the ecosystem": Why would this be done? Well, when you die, you are not dead, you are still aware, you just can't communicate and you can't do anything. Filbert shows this quite clearly on his Expanded Tone Scale. The only humane thing to do, is to get that being, and terminate his conciousness, but with the hope that someday, his suffering will not have been in vain. Thus, his DNA stamp will be carried forward.
  So why chop the being up? He is suffering beyond belief. The arm is in desperate pain, and might be broken. The being holds on with everything he can. You cut the arm up and then part of it is aware over there and part over here. The only solution is to get it into individual cells. We can't do that, you see - cellular level is too small for us to disect - so the cleanest solution is to allow that being to be fed into the eco system.

Ok, that is my present theory and understanding up to this moment. Perhaps others can fill in some other details to clarify or fix this story, perhaps it is completely incorrect. It just seems to make logical sense at the moment.

So there is no fault suffering. We keep each other alive and productive as long as we can.

Now to the crux of the issue - WHY? How can things be this way? Well, God (infinite void/nothing/everything) had to split in order to produce life. This created a chaos of almost equal God-like beings who were incapable of helping each other.

As far as hope goes, that is what I am trying to say on my website. The solution is to break the barrier betwen astral and physical, since the solution has been found. Father God is in the process of getting God control of reality. All suffering can be over in a matter of a day or two, and that is literal, if we all work together. We need to talk to each other directly in order to achieve this. Personally I have no idea, of the accuracy of this material (just rock solid absolute certainty and common sense) so I need to collaborate with others. We can take anyone to do this, but someone who is higher up on the hierarchy will help even more.

I've had a satanist who was actively casting against me who has converted over and now continuing with life. Finally life may continue.

So, its no fault. We are performing a service to God. Life hasn't really started properly yet - we are still in the period of the birthing place of life. Its the life of opportunity, right now. Gods (people who sit at God's table, that is more accurate) are created right here and now. The key is communication. I've managed to break some barriers down, so it looks like I'm holding one of the most important keys right now.

Neil

Footnote: Why astral travel was only an interim solution. Once a being had managed to be on the astral, this implied everyone was on the astral. The astral is a dream-like world. We hardly remember much of our experiences when we return to the astral when we travel in dreams or OBEs. Ok, so astral travel is one of the shining successes of the past. People could have their physical beings disintegrated and still have a life in the astral. This just seems to imply that everything was and will be a dream, forever. So nothing happened then. So the solution was to anchor one on the physical. This was done, I anchored back, and they in turned anchored everyone else back. God pawned everyone and the solution is starting to arrive. That is why astral is more advanced that contexting, contexting is easier, and contexting is the solution. Contexting actually gets the participant active in the solution. Might not bring the target visible - hasn't for me yet, not 100% - but always, always, always helps me to play a material role in the solution, better. The ultimate solution is an interim communication device like an E-meter but sensitive to the non-physical, so that the astral beings can type out the answer. I've got proof of concept of this, and know it can work. It needs to be a next project on the web site.
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2011, 20:27:10 »

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...I want to be happy, that's my only goal, my only wish, the only thing I'm pursuing every single day, but sadly, I think that there is no way to be happy on Earth, there are too much people, too much trouble, not enough space for everyone to realise each single dream. In the astral realms, just a single thought will change your world while here, a single thought is doing nothing and you have to lick people's as* for years to get what you want, it is so stupid, so unfair. On this earth you have to be mean to get what you want, you need to step over people and be a backstabber but quite franclky I dont want to deal with that and don't feel like I need to raise my voice to be heard or do anything else that requires too much effort on my part...it is just so ...stupid and evil!

You said, "I'm pursuing happiness everyday" and then followed it with "but I don't think it's possible". You have a lot of doubts and misconceptions about the world. Not that the world is problem-free, it's far from it, but don't you think your attitude influences your outlook?

By changing the way you think about things, you can change the way you perceive things, and when perception is more correct, the more you flow with life. If you go through life assuming it can only be unhappy and that you can't achieve what you want, that's exactly what you'll get. You're much more powerful and influential than what you know, you just have to find it and use it. Look inward for strength and happiness and then apply it to life around you. Not only will you find happiness, but you'll make others happy too.

Or don't, it's your life, your responsibility, and you're in charge.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2011, 14:20:22 »

You won't be happy in the afterlife if you aren't happy in the physical.
Things there are much more mental, emotional and dependant on your mind, if you are mentally weak here, you'll be in trouble there.
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