Do blind people astral travel?

[GodsProxy]

If so can they perceive the real time zone? How does one who was blind from birth perceive differently from one who went blind later?

Also I would encourage the blind to try contexting and report the results. The black and white static behind closed eyes can be used as anchors.  They should be able to get spiritual or physical perception like this. Email me if you know someone who tries this.

[AstralBeginnings]

Non-Physical perception is non-physical - meaning we dont use our physical eyes.  The only reason we perceive things visually is because thats what we are used to.  So yes, blind people can project.

[blis]

I've never heard from a blind projector. I think Robert Bruce talks about teaching blind people to project in Astral Dynamics. He might have written more about it on the internet somewhere idk.

[Xanth]

Blind people project, definitely.

However, what they "see" will depend upon what their concept of "seeing" is for them.

Someone who became blind throughout their life will still have a concept of "seeing".
Someone who was blind from birth has no "seeing" concept.

[Volgerle]

It seems that they have "mind-sight", at least that is what it is called in their NDEs, that is a special way of sensing that does not necessarily translate into what we call 'visual' and still you can perceive, operate and navigate in 'astral' enviromnents.

Maybe it's is the same sense we use when we're out with "exit blindness" and still have some kind of perception thing going on. At least that is my experience, I think I already used 'mind-sight'.

Here's an interesting book on NDEs of the blind:

http://www.amazon.com/Mindsight-Near-Death-Out-Body-Experiences/dp/0966963008/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1303926623&sr=8-7

quote from Amazon description:
"There is compelling evidence that the blind do "see" in those moments, but it is not sight as we think of it. Ring and Cooper uncover a kind of "transcendental awareness" they refer to as mindsight. It involves the strange experience of being able to perceive from all angles at once, from every focal depth at once, and a sense of "knowing" the subject, not just visually, but with a deep and inexplicable knowledge."

[Stookie_]

Other states of consciousness are more than just visual appearances.

[blis]

My dad used to know a blind guy who took acid. He said he saw stuff when he was on it. Think he was blind from birth.

[Lionheart]

 Blind people experiencing Astral Travel is exactly the reason Robert Bruce created his NEW Energy Wave Program.

[GodsProxy]

Robert Bruce must be a wise man. If we better understand how blind from birth people relate to the physical universe using the bridge of astral travel, then we can better understand how sight relates to the very concept of concept itself. It should help us better understand the concept of conciousness itself. For example how do the blind conceive of the 3 primary colours?

Mental telepathy relies on common anchor points or concepts for communication. So communication with an alien civilization, especially one on a differet plane to ours, is very challenging. Understanding the concept of concepts by understanding how we relate to the blind, may be the key to transcending understanding using words to understanding using concepts.

This in itself is a tricky concept to communicate.

[Xanth]

For example how do the blind conceive of the 3 primary colours?

They don't.  They would have no concept of "colour"... let alone what the 3 primary colours were.

Mental telepathy relies on common anchor points or concepts for communication. So communication with an alien civilization, especially one on a differet plane to ours, is very challenging. Understanding the concept of concepts by understanding how we relate to the blind, may be the key to transcending understanding using words to understanding using concepts.

I can understand what you're saying here (I know, I'm baffled how that happened too )...
When we communicate (ANY communication really, not limited to telepathy), we do so using symbols and metaphors.  Our language is nothing but a group of symbols and metaphors we use to communicate ideas and thoughts with.  Communication can happen with direct symbols, such as a picture. 

If I sent you a mental image of a man helping someone up off the ground with a smile on his face... what would I be saying here?  How you interpret it will come down to your personal set of symbols and metaphors. 

[CFTraveler]

I've had projections (ok, one) where I perceived everything as vibration.  I could tell mass and the sense of space by feeling vibration when in this state, and I 'kind of' remember translating it to color.  Of course, I am sighted, so I was able to make that interpretation, but I wouldn't be surprised that non-sighted people may translate this type of information into temperature (for example) since there is no frame of reference for 'color', unless they were born sighted and lost it later on.

Robert indeed developed tactile stimulation (now known as NEW) for the purpose of teaching energy work to blind people, since most energy work available usually relies on visualization.

[GodsProxy]

If anyone knows a blind person to try out the contexting process, I believe I have developed perception of the room around me using the closed eyes version.

http://unbelievableexistence.wikidot.com/closed-eye-contexting-writeup

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[ayearhasgone]

I rarely "see" during my explorations.  It's more of a "knowing" or receiving impressions.  For example, the other night I was milling around a belief system territory, interested in touring a hollow heaven and all.  I didn't *see* anything.  But I *knew* that I was looking at shiny white houses.  I did get an image, but I think the image followed the knowing, like my mind was just trying to fill in the blanks.

So, yes, blind people can project.  Sight is a concept that we hairless apes dreamed up.  There is no sight in consciousness.   

[SomeRandom]

I'm blind, I indeed astral protect.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
 A documentary program on some medical procedure where a blind from birth person was operated on said the gift of sight was like he imagined it. The images of his house he created the feel of were like that of a cartoon. The reality of sight in comparison to what he imagined was very similar but seeing things in the distance took some adapting to. The texture of surfaces he said looked different as the various colours were so different to the feel of it. In his mind all the similar feel surfaces were the same. In his home for quite a while he found getting around easier with his eyes closed.
It would have been interesting to know if his dreams contained real images as his interpretation of objects were cartoon like.