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[rain_88]

Hi everyone!

I've just figured it out that this might be the right place to ask the following questions, because when I try to talk about these things, people think I should be institutionalized or something . Here we go:

As far as I understand, the "Astral" is a very subjective experience, since we are exploring our subconscious. Some states that are "Planes" in the Astral, others talk about different areas of the consciousness and they divide the whole thing into categories. There are always higher Planes, additional areas etc.... They treat these "higher" planes/areas as if they were somehow more objective. But how can they be so sure about that? Where does reality begins?

'Cause I think "reality" is really a subjective experience, and just because a bunch of people drew the line at the certain point, it doesn't mean there is really a line. Just think about the physical level. For many, this is what reality is. We can say, that this is just an illusion and we can search for the "truth", but that is also a very subjective experience IMO....

And first of all, what is the point of living this earthly life? Please be very creative and don't come up with personal development or evolution  ! Assuming that there is a "higher self" or that we exist on various levels at the same time, starting our "evolution" from here seems freaking pointless to me. Or starting it from anywhere... evolving at all seems pointless.

Please someone break it down for me, 'cause I feel freaking cheated! What the heck are we doing here? What on earth could we possibly learn on this Earth - lol - which would prepare us, broaden our horizons blabla... for becoming able to understand something that we are not capable of understand now?

Let's say I am at Level 1 in this little role-playing game, but why can't I just start from Level 30? It wouldn't make any difference, because you have to learn and prepare yourself either ways, right? To become a "God", become one with "God", or call it Creator or whatever you want - I am not religious, don't get me wrong.

And what does determine, whether someone is getting involved in "spirituality" or not? And when? I am familiar with the conception of reincarnation, but I just can't see what on earth would stop someone from seeking sensual pleasures for thousands of reinbodiments. At some point we just decide that we had enough of that? Let's find something else to keep ourselves busy and entertained.

I would really love to understand Life and address these questions to some kind of "higher" life form, to the hyper-ultimate one, but I am afraid he/she/it would be just a product of my own imagination.

So please share your thoughts. At least you guys are real for sure. Arent ya  ?

rain

[NoY]

The meaning of Life
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Entertainment !. Once you have lived your life and the life after that and the life after that.. until you have lived all of your lives and are a most high angel what will you do? at the end of the end of the end?.
You may choose to start again to reincarnate at the lowest level and do it all over again. Its not a question of faith its more a concept of infinity, if life goes on forever and has always been forever, then not only have you lived your own life before but you have also been your mother and your father and your brother and your dog and a tree and a being from another dimension over and over again for eternity, its not a question of being here to learn because you used to know it anyway. Everybody loves a good movie with action romance hero's monsters etc. because its entertaining and that's all life is, a way to entertain the masses


:NoY:

[rain_88]

So we are all just simple hedonists ? Well, infinity can become boring I guess... In this light, death could be something we can long for in vain.... Okay, I've become more concerned about not being able to die... That sucks! 

[CFTraveler]

Hi Rain.  (Is it you, J?) Anyway, have you ever heard of Anthony Peake?  He has a book entitled Is There Life After Death (aka Itladian philosophy) and a website/forum entitled Cheating the Ferryman.
I think you'd find it interesting.

[rain_88]

Hi CFTraveler!

I've got many names, but I don't remember being called J  ! So no, I am not her/him. But I desperately want to come to know J if she/is crazy the same way I am ! And thx for the hints, I'll definitely check them out!

rain

[rain_88]

Okay, I've found the article in which Anthony introduces his theory, and I find it quite interesting.  But I can't seem to find a link from where I could download the book titled 'Is there life after death'. The author stated that it can be downloaded from wowio for free, but when I search through their database, no matter what keywords I use, the search comes up with approx 60 000 results. Could anyone provide me a link where I can get the book? Of course I could order and pay for it, but I prefer the free stuff  ....

[CFTraveler]

Hi rain.
There was a poster (years ago who's name started with J- I wasn't going to divulge it just in case it wasn't you.)  We were 'forum friends', and he was a very nice guy.  I wondered if he'd come back.  Anyway, I own the 'paid for' copy, and he's in England, so I don't know if that's why it's not that easily found.
I think you get a good idea of what his theories are from the 'Cheating the Ferryman' forum, though.  But the book is great, because he illustrates all the science behind his theory and  how he came to formulate (or tend towards) it.
Here is a link:
http://www.anthonypeake.co.uk/forum/index.php

[rain_88]

I see. But I am a really nice guy too, so we have at least one thing in common with J  !
And thx again !