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« on: March 31, 2018, 22:44:45 »

Hi everybody,

 So Just looking around and there are maybe binaural beats on youtube, iphone apps, and other mp3s around.  And then there is Hemisync. Why is Hemisync crazy expensive? If people here have had experience with binaural beats from many sources including Hemisync, is there an actual tangible difference?  (Mainly talking about the gateway Experience one.)  Have you tried a phone app with great binaural beats that you recommend?
 
Lastly do you feel that binaural beats benefit your meditation sessions and OBE attempts ?


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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 04:50:33 »

Hi everybody,

 So Just looking around and there are maybe binaural beats on youtube, iphone apps, and other mp3s around.  And then there is Hemisync. Why is Hemisync crazy expensive? If people here have had experience with binaural beats from many sources including Hemisync, is there an actual tangible difference?  (Mainly talking about the gateway Experience one.)  Have you tried a phone app with great binaural beats that you recommend?
 
Lastly do you feel that binaural beats benefit your meditation sessions and OBE attempts ?

I didn't find binaural beats beneficial in any way.

I have the whole Hemisync set. I browsed only the first 6 discs, and tried several times the first 2 or 3 sessions. I was very enthusiastic about the Hemisync, but I found it waaaaay too slow.

In my current opinion there are better ways. You can achieve the same trance levels, much faster, with other self hypnosis scripts. Also, the whole Monroe's level structure is too constraining, and tainted by his own beliefs.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2018, 10:13:49 »

Hemi-sync is the "brand name" of technology called "binaural beats".
They're like the Nike shoes of brainwave entrainment music.  You can buy other kinds of cheaper shoes and they'll get the job done just the same... or you can buy Nike's and waste your money.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 00:03:45 »

Hi

This is my opinion.. I am not against people useing beats to try and trigger a OBE stage. To each their own..what ever works for you..let it work...

I have found out over time that all you need to OBE is your self. Believe in your self..have confidence, have a intent of what you want to do..  If it does not work right away, just say..blah... it will work next try...

Like with beats, it's hard to explain.. You are using a outside pshysical thing to trigger something physical. (Beats) .. You are not obeing' naturally.. you are like take a pill and it will do this..  The whole key to a obe is inner self confidence..  The key is to goto bed , chill and expect nothing. Yet maintain your intention in the back groud of the brain(intention)...  Leaving the body is a ..Balance between trying and not trying.. hard to explain..You kind of want to be "zero" or on a line of neutralness. You want to be aware, have intent, yet at the at the same time , you want to with any energy of your intent, you also want to balance that with the opposite of intention... You want to try without trying...LOL

I have never used Hemi sync , beats, or what ever other people come up with (devices) to leave the body. I left the body 87 times and stopped counting after that...  haha...  That was like when I was 30..If I can do it..hey you can do it also.

Xanth  woot woot..  Is Novice still around?

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 03:52:03 »

Xanth  woot woot..  Is Novice still around?
I haven't seen or heard from Novice for a few years now.
I think she mostly hangs out over on the EIC forums.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2018, 02:48:58 »

I came across a video of Tom Campbell talking about binaural beats that I thought was informative. Mostly basic info but I liked his attitude about using them but suggesting to work towards not using them. Guess as part of the seminar he did, the people got copies of bb he has created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1pwe0ylRw

After I watched it, I followed a link from that video to a site that sells Toms bb's that isn't very much in price either. I may get them, but sure do like how the price isn't as steep as TMI.
https://www.mbtevents.com/store.html

Anyone tried Tom's versions?
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 09:17:59 »

I came across a video of Tom Campbell talking about binaural beats that I thought was informative. Mostly basic info but I liked his attitude about using them but suggesting to work towards not using them. Guess as part of the seminar he did, the people got copies of bb he has created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1pwe0ylRw

After I watched it, I followed a link from that video to a site that sells Toms bb's that isn't very much in price either. I may get them, but sure do like how the price isn't as steep as TMI.
https://www.mbtevents.com/store.html

Anyone tried Tom's versions?
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 23:50:56 »

There are some himi sync videos on you tube . 
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2018, 22:13:22 »

Hemi Sync is probably more expensive because of the way they blend the binaural beats and the amount of testing they put into it. Most other stuff I have seen rarely uses more than one binaural beat at a time. Many YouTube ones take you down to alpha for five minutes, then down to theta and wait there for thirty minutes. And that's it. Anyone can do that with Gnaural. I can't speak for things like holo sync. I would be interested to interpret it though.

At TMi they discovered that its usually not enough just taking you down to low theta as it invariably ends up in you falling asleep. So combining a dash of theta with some alpha means you still go down low but you are also staying alert. As an example the later focus levels combine theta with beta. When you get up to the much later levels they use upto about ten binaural beats at one time. But there is definitely a fine line between right and wrong. You can't just throw some frequencies together because in theory they should work.

One thing I will say that I don't yet fully understand is that the carrier signal plays a far bigger role in the effect of binaural beats than I ever knew. It's not just about the beat frequencies itself. There is something profund in deep carrier signals. Which ones, who knows? TMI definitely understands this. All of their later programs mainly use deep carrier signals.

In terms of th expensive cost - there are plenty of hemi-sync titles that aren't expensive. Buy some of the individual ones. Or maybe try their new technology SAM. You can pick up cheap tracks for download from the TmI websites. They also a few free ones on the site, SAM and Hemi-Sync
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2018, 19:13:02 »

I haven't tried to use Hemi-Sync for OBE, but in the past couple days I have used the MetaMusic for relaxing and meditation. All of the binaural beats on Youtube never did anything at all for me, but these still my mind much quicker than when I meditate without. I'd say in about 10 to 15 minutes I get to around the same state I tend to get to by sitting for a hour. The music I have are 50+ minute long sets each, and after finishing one the effect is clear.

I haven't used them long enough to say if the effect is permanent, but it feels like the longer I stay in these higher vibrational states, the more of an effect they have after I get off the mat (like you do when meditating for longer in general). For instance, if it takes me 1 hour to get to the state of calm and focus by meditating without music that 15 minutes with Hemi-Sync music does, then unless I continue to meditate after that first hour I didn't really spend much time at that vibration. But if I reach that state in 15 minutes with MetaMusic, then continue meditating for 45 minutes longer; not only would I have been at that heightened awareness for 45 minutes, but my focus and shedding of ego becomes even more intense over those 45 minutes.

I've meditated for several years now (although not as consistently as I'd like to admit), and over this time I've learned to notice the subtle shifts in awareness that tend to happen the longer I meditate during a session. It definitely feels like MetaMusic as a tool helps me relax into these heightened states much more quickly. Something I'm wondering is if I could use it for say an hour, then switch to meditating without the music and go from there. In effect, moving quickly through the more familiar vibrational states into less explored territory.

One example of where 1 hour of the MetaMusic got me to yesterday was to a point of almost complete stillness. My desire and aversions melted away, thoughts had quieted down, but any phenomena rose and passed without any "effort" on my part. I reached that point of just existing, where my sense of self was starting to fade into the background. I've reached that state a couple times before, but haven't followed it through. The last time I reached that point, it felt like what I viewed as me was about to fall into an abyss, and that all of sense of self would disappear, I had an almost unconscious knee jerk reaction of intense fear that pulled me out of it.

I hope I get back there soon, I think I'm ready for it.

Like I said I don't know about their material that is focused on OBE and the like, and considering I had my first OBE without it and reached it through meditation, I'm not sure if I will use their technology or not. But for meditators, I would personally suggest trying out their music. It's not much for a 1 hour long track, that you could use many many sittings.

Note: lately I've been meditating in a fairly congested area (as far as sound is concerned), so at least part of the reason why I could be relaxing more easily is the removal of random noise through using the music and headphones.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2018, 08:22:58 »

I have had OBES with Metamusic.  They work just as well as straight hemi-sync. For me I also know that the effect of hemi-sync continues after I stop listening to it for a good while after. Your brain will still be giving off those theta and delta frequencies. When I do a hemi-sync meditation and don't experience an obe during the length of the exercise I will often turn on my side and simply go to sleep and most of time I will then experience an obe at this point.
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