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[SomeRandom]

You can watch it on youtube for free, its a non profit film. If you use anything that comes from the earth, I suggest you watch this. (Yes I mean everyone)

Its about the earth and its resources and how much we take.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU&feature=watch-now-button&wide=1


"20% of the population consumes 80% of its resources"

"One mammal in 4, one bird in 8, one amphibian in 3 are threatened with extiction

Species are dying out at a rhythm 1,000 times faster than the natural rate"

[Xanth]

Yup, it's completely horrid... but as long as we are ruled by the almighty $$$, it won't change.  As long as there are people willing to sacrifice our planet and our resources in the name of "scoring a buck", we're all screwed.

A change is going to require a disaster of epic proportions for the people of Earth to wake the hell up.  I'm talking *BILLIONS* of lives.  BILLIONS of people need to die before enough people will begin to work towards change.

Anything less and Capitalist greed will continue on without skipping a beat.

[Stookie_]

I glanced at this and misread it as "amazing home video" and thought "oh no, they're posting home videos now".

[ether2]

Yup, it's completely horrid... but as long as we are ruled by the almighty $$$, it won't change.  As long as there are people willing to sacrifice our planet and our resources in the name of "scoring a buck", we're all screwed.

A change is going to require a disaster of epic proportions for the people of Earth to wake the hell up.  I'm talking *BILLIONS* of lives.  BILLIONS of people need to die before enough people will begin to work towards change.

Anything less and Capitalist greed will continue on without skipping a beat.

change on the way man...here's the start


http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_transition_of_the_ages/whats_happening_towards_2012_our_new_world-t34124.0.html

we will have billions projecting soon, all learning how the world has been operated and will be operated...it's in the pipe line man

good luck

love all

[NoY]

Amazing video well worth watching thanks for sharing 


:NoY:

[Stillwater]

The funny thing about futurist predictions is that every age that makes them will just take the current trends of their time, and magnify them 20-fold and say, "that will be the future." I remember in the 80's as a kid we would watch after-school specials, where they featured a view of the future where the world was overcome by pollution, and people in the cities would carry oxygen tanks and gas suits everywhere, as though we would have the opportunity to pollute that long and to that extent. Fortunately for us, we will all die of homelessness and hunger well in advance of that, as we alter the cyclical eco-mechanisms that supply us with the water and the climate conditions for food production and living.

Many people look at it as a great misfortune that "Hubert's peak" is approaching (the time when oil supply will peak for all time, and oil will quickly become too expensive as demand far outstrips the dwindling supply rate), as though they want the oil-era to continue indefinitely. In truth, I think that we are extrememly fortunate, as we probably would not have taken the steps to save our civilization until the very moment we were forced to; we are blessed that some external factor is forcing us to make the change that is direly necessary to mitigate forces which will largely destroy everything we have made in just a couple decades, as we would not have had the foresight to see 20 years into the future and make the changes on our own.

[Stookie_]

I watched a documentary the other night called "Transcendental Man" that was about Ray Kurzweil, who predicts "singularity" by 2039, where basically AI will reach and surpass the human mind and transform everything into utopia, because it will think and act in ways we cannot. I call BS, but it's still interesting.

[SomeRandom]

The funny thing about futurist predictions is that every age that makes them will just take the current trends of their time, and magnify them 20-fold and say, "that will be the future." I remember in the 80's as a kid we would watch after-school specials, where they featured a view of the future where the world was overcome by pollution, and people in the cities would carry oxygen tanks and gas suits everywhere, as though we would have the opportunity to pollute that long and to that extent. Fortunately for us, we will all die of homelessness and hunger well in advance of that, as we alter the cyclical eco-mechanisms that supply us with the water and the climate conditions for food production and living.

Many people look at it as a great misfortune that "Hubert's peak" is approaching (the time when oil supply will peak for all time, and oil will quickly become too expensive as demand far outstrips the dwindling supply rate), as though they want the oil-era to continue indefinitely. In truth, I think that we are extrememly fortunate, as we probably would not have taken the steps to save our civilization until the very moment we were forced to; we are blessed that some external factor is forcing us to make the change that is direly necessary to mitigate forces which will largely destroy everything we have made in just a couple decades, as we would not have had the foresight to see 20 years into the future and make the changes on our own.

Maybe I'm just stupid but I dont understand what you're saying.... Are you saying this video is just over exaggerating the future?

[Stillwater]

I can understand how you would be confused by what I said, since I said two things at once that seem to contradict if you don't understand the balancing mechanic I am implying between them.

I think the film is spot on, and deadly accurate.  I am poking fun at earlier naive notions that pollution would be able to get much further out of control without swiftly destroying our civilization, and much sooner than anyone anticipated. Clearly we will not be able to pollute to that degree, since our pollution is about to have much more dramatic consequences than we first thought- so by that I mean there will be no cities full of people with oxygen masks, since the people populating those cities who would have caused such pollution will have starved or been forced to move away much in advance of that situation being able to arise. So pollution will not be able to get much more out of control, by the technicality that we will have destroyed ourselves in very little time through what we have done already.

The second part of my response dealt with the observation that we are fortunate that our rate of oil supply is dwindling, and is going to externally force us to take positive measures by necessity that we would not have taken merely to prevent the collapse of our civilization later this century.

So I think the film has the correct perspective- I am just bringing in other observations that in one case support its premise, and in the other case state that fate has in one slight sense prevented us from doing even more harm by taking away the oil facilitating it.

[SomeRandom]

ahh ok 

[Rudolph]

"20% of the population consumes 80% of its resources"
"One mammal in 4, one bird in 8, one amphibian in 3 are threatened with extiction
Species are dying out at a rhythm 1,000 times faster than the natural rate"

That may be because only 20% of the population is 'growing' or evolving.

Animals have always faced extinction... that's just natural.

1000x huh?... more BS

I was OBE a couple years ago and found myself in near Earth orbit. Gaia was handy and I asked about the whole global warming thing (now shown to a giant hoax) and She informed me that She has been working on evolving the human race to the present point in order to get some relief from those pesky oil pools under Her skin. It is our job to "lance the boil" so to speak. Once we get it into the atmosphere the natural healing process can be accelerated.

"Long Live Capitalism" She shouted as I returned to my body.

Capitalism along with central banking has done more to increase the wealth of the common man than any other economic system in the history of mankind.

[SomeRandom]

No its because 20% have a material life style and depend on their WANTS

Global warming is a hoax? Uhh no it isnt? This has always happened? The earth has done what it has been doing for hundreds of thousands of years. We just helped increase it by 10% faster or something.... And how do you know it was in fact mother earth and not just your own consciousness making up the thoughts you wanted to hear considering you already believe its all a hoax?

And btw the increase wealth of common man in our society, is only possible because we live off the poor.

[Rudolph]

"Anthropogenic" Global Warming is a giant hoax.

Earth has been going through warming and cooling cycles all on its own for a very long time now.

If you ask me, imho, here is the real cause of global warming;
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/hmi_igr/512/


(at least, that's what Gaia told me... fer whatever its worth....)

[Stillwater]

I would not say hoax per se; there is no definitive argument to date that the global-warming aspect of our eco-troubles is necessarily caused by humans, since we don't have another control earth to isolate what we cause and what we don't, and our records don't go back long enough to know what sort of fluctuations are commonplace on a fine scale; that accounted for, it is also folly to assume that we are not the cause of global warming, since it is a big gamble if it is indeed human caused and we assumed innocence. The only rational course is to assume that it is strongly possible we are the culprits and adjust our behavior accordingly. If we turn out to be wrong, and global warming is completely natural, we played it safe; if we are right, and global warming is due to artificial greenhouse effects, then we did something about it.

Look at it this way. Say you work in a hospital, and are in charge of equipment acquisitions, and someone tells you the defibulators are all defective, and there is a general recall. You call up the manufacturer, and someone there says there was a mistake, and that it was not your brand that is being recalled. Would you leave it at that, or would you investigate further, and test all of the equipment in the hospital, assuming that if there did end up being merit to the original claim they were defective, that the consequences might be severe?

Global warming is also not the only thing that will have, and is currently having massive world-wide impact. Even if global warming turns out to be completely natural, there are tons of other things we are doing that we will pay the price for in very little time.

[Rudolph]

It is not just an assumed innocence. It is just that those who say a thing is thus and so are supposed to prove it. The AGW phonies did present papers that made that claim but then it was shown that they 'fudged' the data. The AGW pushers were openly and undeniably revealed to be giant liars. (a lotta that going around these days).

The true folly would be to crash the world economy in a childish reaction to a big lie.

The Earth is not even close to warming up according to their model predictions. They even had to admit last year that the planet was not warming anywhere near what the CO2 models predicted. The ocean temp data is flat. Arctic ice is normal. Antarctic South pole temps are not rising... antarctic ice shelves that were melting were sitting on top of Pacific Rim volcanic magma flows... the increase in drowned polar bear counts was exactly proportional to the population increase (which has tripled since it was made illegal to hunt them... they are NOT endangered at all)....

On and on and on...

The whole AGW scare is a joke. Serious climatologists are in agreement on that.

Real science has said and continues to say that we are heading into another ice age. In 5000 years half the planet will be under permafrost.

OBE masters and remote viewers, etc. have predicted a heavy reduction in human population but they did not reveal 'how'. It will likely be due to a virus, imho.
And Gaia should be able to manage that much in short order when she is good and ready.