I havent had any real astral experiences in the past 6 months

[rygoody]

Back when I registered here in February of this year, reading everything, getting all the language into my brain. I think of it in Robert Anton Wilson style, change the language, change your brain physically and thus perception and ability.

I had two very notable projection experiences the following months. Where I literally got out so to say, the full magnetic feeling of pulling, the sense of immediacy and real to it all. Then a dozen or so of the ones where you are literally there, zoned into it. But your not out walking around. But you can see things there. This all gradually began to fade off for some reason after the months. Since then I only ever once felt the magnetic pull and leaving sensation again, but I didn't get out fully.

I no longer even so much get that 'feeling somewhere else' entirely anymore.

I believe it may have a degree to do with, in terms of Franks modified Monroe model of conscious. I am intristically aware of all the focus's at all time from meditation I practice, in a sort of Buddhist enlightenment sense. Focus 4 being the clearlight, from my interpretation. That is something that in the past months I have improved incredibly. My intuitional connection to these focus's, my ability to sense, comprehend and be creative have increased incredibly in that time, beyond what I could have even comprehended as possible last year. But with that, came no more AP control.

My meditation now is largely just, focusing on controlling my feeling, abilities, thoughts, coming up with new thoughts, concepts, designing things visually... basically working on myself, sort of using that 'intuitional connection' to the focus's as a guide. Cause I mean, they are in your brain? So that is where that greater intuition and connection to 'it all' would come from. I still every now and then get the few marked AP guides I once used, pulsating white light, body really light... but I just can't seem to carry them very far anymore.

I'm thinking it may have something to do with the fact that. AP is actually just an incredibly accurate Focus 2 of consciousness, correct? In essence, a really accurate lucid dream. I feel once I started thinking this, it made the experience of AP seem less valuable. Unnecessary. Which then lowered my underlying will to do it or just accidentally experience it. That I almost see it as a form of entertainment.

Another thing to note tho, in the past months, the degree to which my dreams are more vivid and more varied has increased significantly. Just that whole 'accuracy' and 'lucid' aspect of it, I've seemed to of lost some of.

So I am wondering, has anyone had a similar experience, or similar thoughts? How'd it go for you?

[silentfox]

somanny people are having truble with this

try this method i gave it to several others im waiting for responces good luck

i was looking at your i cant AP topic and i have an idea

this is a back door to AP threw luicid dreaming it works really well if you do it right but dont beat yourself up if it doesnt work

i know this is weird but lets say you fall asleep then wake up in the midle of the night (warning donot do this if it is a nightmar/bad dream)and you are still tired close your eyes before 5 seconds are up (because your mind erases images in your head and refreshes them with new ones) remember the last seen in your dream doesnt have to be every thing just a portion of your surrounding and try to recreat that.  you will fall into a half sleep because you are tire relaxing and keeping your mind ocupied when you think you are in a lucid dream try to foccus on the thought of astral projecting(leaving your body) dont complicate it just think off the thought and you should pop out of the lucid dream into and AP good luck and please tell me if this works k
if you need any thing pm me

~silentfox~

[rygoody]

I had an experience the other day that I felt shed some insight on this.

In these past 6 months of 'no real astral experience', I realized that referred not to astral specifically, but to the experience of leaving the body and wandering around.

I realized that in those past 6 months, it wasn't that I wasn't getting to extremely deep conscious levels. But rather, as I had felt, I just seemed to have lost an underlying will to 'get out'. At first, when reading this site and then in my spontaneous response to make this thread I thought "oh this isn't as good, I'm not getting out". But like I said, when I got some insight into it I realized that, even though I wasn't literally getting out. I was still having an extremely profound time during meditation and during astral meditations and that my life, was still steadily improving through all of it. But the thing I realized is, during these astral meditations of 'not getting out', I was still seeing things, still experiencing and hearing things very vividly. I started to piece together that these things are probably the product of observing more microscopically small astral layers. That rather then getting out and flying off. I was getting better at going inside and smaller. So I think now, once I find what I'm looking for down there, I'll go back up.