If you value your health

[Mez]

breastfeeding a baby is the only way to go. period. infants should be breastfed until the age of weaning and then never consume "milk" again... such is the norm in nature. STICK WITH NATURE AND YOU CANT GO WRONG!

If mom doesnt have time for her own baby then something is seriously wrong.

We have created a society in which it becomes increasingly difficult to follow nature usually due to "having to pay the mortgage"... that just isnt living.

[AmbientSound]

I whole-heartedly agree, and I wish the majority of people felt the same way.

[Marduk]

Meat and dairy productions have kept us alive and healthy for this long, and they ARE vital for a human body function properly, I eat meat every day and so have millions of other people through the ages. There is no true evidence to back this is

[jsoul]

I was reading the book "Your Hands Can Heal You", and it mentioned that the foods you eat all give you prana energy, however some of the energy is "clean" and some "dirty".  Of course, all the dirty energy foods were meats and a vegan diet was the most clean.  Supposedly this can clear your energy channels and whatnot to improve meditation. 

ah! i found it....page 185...

http://books.google.com/books?id=1ekEAtUD8e8C&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=%22your+hands+can+heal+you%22+foods&source=web&ots=pPmu-lqG2H&sig=kN-QQYcA38bEhyqLkeAAUcdupDQ#PPA185,M1

Thanks Ideeep for the book ! and i will get China STudy. thanks Adrian.
i have one question: how is SOy milk different from regular milk?

[joel1212]

man. i really really really like my meat. Does anyone know of a link where eating meat to hurting you with things such as astral projection and dreaming. any other physical health repercussions don't bother me but spiritual does

[zareste]

Come to think of it, my abilities have gotten quite a bit better since dropping meat and dairy, although I'm not sure if it's related

Meat has almost no taste, anyway. Humans are mostly herbivores, so we don't taste much in meat. It's only after you add spices (made of plants and minerals) that you taste anything.

[Tiny]

Dear folks,

if you want to get rid of your meat consumption why don't you try the soy substitutes. My local grocery store offers them in a number of imitations of different varieties of meat and they do pretty well to their role models.

I use a form of dried soy proteine blobs that when boiled up take on the substance of ground meat and I regularily make vegetarian bolognese with it.
One of the reasons I've decided to abandon meat is the unpredictability of negative energy residue and that it appears heavy to digest which is uncomfortable.

More important is to get sugar out of the diet, if possible completly. Needless to say this is a very hard task under normal circumstances. However, you simply don't want sugar cravings in a meditational life and there happens to be a substance produced by the Stevia plant which fills the body's needs for sweetness swiftly and which will get sugar out of the diet of somebody from day 1 on.
There are a few reasons why I consider Steviosides more a supplement than a sweetener.
Steviosides seem to reset my gum or metabolism in some way. Usually after eating something salty/spicy, my body will feel repulsed unless it gets something sweet (in the pause between meals).
Steviosides are 200-300 times sweeter than sugar, and about 10-100 miligrams compared to hundreds of grams of sugar i would estimate, are enough to fil the occasional need for sweetness.
Unlike sugar, where one basically eats until he starts to feel nauseous or the body is satiated by the amount of calories, with Stevia the body knows exactly when enough is enough (in the miligram range). When this threshold is reached the body will give a repulsion signal to Stevioside and gravitate towards another salty a meal.
Stevia has shown blood sugar lowering, cancer preventitive and other health benefits.

There are two basic forms of Stevia

1) dried leaves from Paraguy for best quality, to be grinded into fine green powder. The taste is sweet with a slight black licorice after taste. I read somewhere that these contain about 28% steviosides.

2) concentrate of more than 95% purified steviosides - this contains in that concentration only the sweetening agents (steviosides) and tastes sweet with a fruity aftertaste. The sweetening power of pure Steviosides is much higher and so it is harder to dose. These are eventually also cheaper than the raw dried leafs.

On ebay I got 100g dried leafs for 4€ (about 6 dollars) and 50g pure steviosides for 6,90€. The 50g have been lasting almost a year now. The 100g of dried leafs will probably not for their stevioside content is quite low, but it contains all the minerals and other secondary substances.



peace

[sonia99]

Thanx for you advise ............... i will do that ...........



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[omcasey]

Over 90% of the worlds soy is GMO, I would not recommend it as a protein replacement. Leafy greens and hemp products (powder, seeds, etc..) may be a more holistic option at this time.  Raw honey is an excellent natural sweetener.  Yumm..

[abadboy]

I Love Bacon, Rib-eye Steak, Pork Chops, Baby-back Ribs, McDonalds 1/3# Burgers.
We can't live forever, so why suffer?

[omcasey]

Always good to go with what you love.  It is good to not confuse love with addiction, though..

[missym]

breastfeeding a baby is the only way to go. period. infants should be breastfed until the age of weaning and then never consume "milk" again... such is the norm in nature. STICK WITH NATURE AND YOU CANT GO WRONG!

If mom doesnt have time for her own baby then something is seriously wrong.

We have created a society in which it becomes increasingly difficult to follow nature usually due to "having to pay the mortgage"... that just isnt living.

Is that not every mothers decision, based on what works for HER and BABY? I should know, being a breastfeeding mother, that breastfeeding is very helpful to an infants tiny body, but not every mother may feel the same way I do. 
Saying "if mom doesn't have time for her own baby" is a very rude thing to say, what makes your opinion/decision better than a mother who chooses to formula-feed her child? And just because she decides to bottle feed her infant doesn't mean she doesn't have time for her child. Who are you to make this judgement upon another mother? And surely you realise how important it is to pay the mortgage, pay your bills, have money to buy the food so your family has a place to live and isn't eating out of garbage cans, living on the streets. Times are not the same as they were before. Sure - it would be idealistic to move to the country, fish and hunt for your food, live in the olden-days. But for most this simply is not an option. Children need to go to school, need health care, we need healthy food to eat, etc.

[ZHaDuM]

Fanatics will often disgust your average rational humans into ignoring their otherwise good advice.  Although I still consume milk and meat, I have greatly cut down my intake over the years and hope to eventually cut these from my diet completely, if and when I can afford better foods and find better alternatives.  10 years ago, the selection of vegetarian foods was almost non-existent and what you could find would instantly cause gag reflexes to kick in.. (hehe).  But, now having many family members who have decided to stop eating meat (mostly the buddhists) and having tried a lot of the new vegetarian foods out there (sausages, nuggets, stir-fry soy steak all yummy!), I can honestly say if you can afford it, you won't suffer much!  Lately I'm eating much more beans and rice and preparing my food, also havent had fast food in many months!   Sadly, the shocking claims made by the fanatical vegans and vegatarians over the years is probably the number one reason I haven't started sooner, as these people don't seem to realise their confrontational hate speech against those meat eaters is only going to strenthen their resolve to eat more meat.  I can't count the amount of times I've thought to myself "damn those veggies sound like a bunch of crazy people! (which happened again today reading this thread).  hehe. 

My advice,  keep your cool.  Share your knowledge without insulting everyone who doesnt think as you do.  Without them you wouldn't be you. 



 

[personalreality]

if i didn't personally take it out of the ground or raise and slaughter it myself then i don't trust it.

it's easy to write the word, "organic" on a package.  doesn't mean its any good for you.  as with all fads, this one has gotten supremely annoying.  the biggest problem with diet is that people have unique bodies with unique fluctuations, increased levels, deficiencies, etc. of all the things that are supposed to be good for you.  one person's diet ought to be carefully tailored to their system.  for example, not only should people not drink milk, but i personally was born premature and my digestive system didn't fully develop as it should have.  subsequently i have a lot of digestive problems, not the least of which being an over sensitivity to dairy.  So i usually avoid dairy.  Sounds obvious right?  Well, I was also told recently to drink apple juice instead of coffee in the spring time and i tried to do it, but after a short time of doing it every day i started to have some major digestive problems.  as soon as i stopped drinking apple juice i was fine again.  what should be great for everyone (pure apple juice) made me sick.  the same goes for most foods and supplements.  every body is unique and takes unique sustenance.

addicted...sheesh.