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« on: September 23, 2015, 03:27:52 »

Hey, what'sup. So aside from my welcome post and my post in media about AP in music, I'm sure no one remembers me. I'm back on because I almost had an OBE without trying last night, and now I feel a little different about it; a little less disconnected from spiritualism. Like most people who try to AP and do it once but fail miserably everafter, I was searching the internet to try to connect the dots and find scientific evidence of if there is a reason why it's so hard to do. In the 2 year period between now and when I realized I couldn't do it again after my first time, I found out that there are only 2 major vises keeping people here on their earth. These are just what I've found, and even though they are absolutely true for me, they may not be true for someone who grew up APing. (skip 2 paragraphs if you don't care)

1) It's extremely difficult to AP if you're exhausted.
Few people realize this, but when you stay up past 12pm you don't dream as much as you would have if you went to bed at 10 or even 11, no matter how many hours you actually sleep. When you sleep too late, and you do it consistently because you think it won't affect you "because you're an adult", you accumulate sleep debt that is almost as serious as if you were to restrict your sleep time by hours per night. After you have this special type of sleep debt, you go to bed and black out and wake up the next day. In public, you can bring up the topic of dreaming, and it's very likely that people will say that they don't dream. The reason you black out instead of dreaming like a child is because you drop straight into deep sleep and stay there instead of having deep sleep + REM sleep. It's because you're so exhausted that your body needs to repair itself physically, rather than choosing to consolidate memory with REM sleep. You'll certainly find that people age quicker if they consistently go to sleep after midnight their whole life.
Related: the natural human sleep cycle is 4 hours asleep, 2 hours awake, 4 hours asleep. When humans invented artificial light, this was almost instantly done away with.

2) It's much easier to AP lying on your back, face up. (or your own AP position)
You might read it or hear it in videos and just brush it off as just how other people are comfortable doing it. But if I try to AP, and I'm well rested and meditating properly with nothing on my mind, and I'm lying on my side, I just lie there for 6 hours and nothing happens. Why do I feel compelled to lie on my side? Idk, but that's what my brain tells me is comfortable. I lied on my back yesterday night and cleared my mind just like I had when attempting it on my side previously, and shazam! My arms and legs were gone in a matter of minutes. I was having fleeting actual visual kaleidoscopic images along with very vivid hallucinations of nearly-human-like figures. This was followed by an extreme adrenaline rush, and consoling myself that I had to finally sleep for my 7:30am alarm. Though my arms only felt like they were an inch away from my actual arms, it was the farthest I'd been out since 2 years ago. And it was offensively easy just like how I remembered it.

Other than that, I'm almost out of school. Just 2 more semesters. Can't wait to move out
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2015, 21:52:25 »

Stay with the thought that it's easy and will happen again.
Your subconscious will do the work if you allow it to do its thing. All you need to do is recognise the best amount of sleep you require and stick to it.
Keeping just enough awareness when you see the signs will help too. Too much and you wake up, too little and you fall asleep.
Find the balance and you'll have more chances of remembering the experiences as well as being active within them.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2015, 21:52:25 »

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2015, 09:48:26 »

Hey, what'sup. So aside from my welcome post and my post in media about AP in music, I'm sure no one remembers me. I'm back on because I almost had an OBE without trying last night, and now I feel a little different about it; a little less disconnected from spiritualism. Like most people who try to AP and do it once but fail miserably everafter, I was searching the internet to try to connect the dots and find scientific evidence of if there is a reason why it's so hard to do. In the 2 year period between now and when I realized I couldn't do it again after my first time, I found out that there are only 2 major vises keeping people here on their earth. These are just what I've found, and even though they are absolutely true for me, they may not be true for someone who grew up APing. (skip 2 paragraphs if you don't care)

1) It's extremely difficult to AP if you're exhausted.
Few people realize this, but when you stay up past 12pm you don't dream as much as you would have if you went to bed at 10 or even 11, no matter how many hours you actually sleep. When you sleep too late, and you do it consistently because you think it won't affect you "because you're an adult", you accumulate sleep debt that is almost as serious as if you were to restrict your sleep time by hours per night. After you have this special type of sleep debt, you go to bed and black out and wake up the next day. In public, you can bring up the topic of dreaming, and it's very likely that people will say that they don't dream. The reason you black out instead of dreaming like a child is because you drop straight into deep sleep and stay there instead of having deep sleep + REM sleep. It's because you're so exhausted that your body needs to repair itself physically, rather than choosing to consolidate memory with REM sleep. You'll certainly find that people age quicker if they consistently go to sleep after midnight their whole life.
Related: the natural human sleep cycle is 4 hours asleep, 2 hours awake, 4 hours asleep. When humans invented artificial light, this was almost instantly done away with.

2) It's much easier to AP lying on your back, face up. (or your own AP position)
You might read it or hear it in videos and just brush it off as just how other people are comfortable doing it. But if I try to AP, and I'm well rested and meditating properly with nothing on my mind, and I'm lying on my side, I just lie there for 6 hours and nothing happens. Why do I feel compelled to lie on my side? Idk, but that's what my brain tells me is comfortable. I lied on my back yesterday night and cleared my mind just like I had when attempting it on my side previously, and shazam! My arms and legs were gone in a matter of minutes. I was having fleeting actual visual kaleidoscopic images along with very vivid hallucinations of nearly-human-like figures. This was followed by an extreme adrenaline rush, and consoling myself that I had to finally sleep for my 7:30am alarm. Though my arms only felt like they were an inch away from my actual arms, it was the farthest I'd been out since 2 years ago. And it was offensively easy just like how I remembered it.

Other than that, I'm almost out of school. Just 2 more semesters. Can't wait to move out
...And here's why I keep failing! Looks like I will be shifting my sleeping hours then. (Most nights these days, I would be lucky to get to bed before 11:00!)

And that would explain a couple of times where I backed out straight away rather than being awake for hours... Wink
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