Iraq War

[no_leaf_clover]

will that really work the way you want it? wouldnt you only be able to see the astral part of iraq?

[kakkarot]

"never know unless you try"

~kakkarot

[What Tha Phak]

hey that's a really good idea.. is anyone up to projecting during a peak time of the invasion?

or is what you would see just a made up reality of your imagination... you would have to be carefull to stay in the real time zone and not sway into an astral.

[Greytraveller]

Over the past several weeks I have made repeated attempts to project and see inside Iraq. With the possible exeption of what could have been a remote viewing episode where I saw three big generators in a huge underground room (beneath Baghdad?) all attempts were unsuccessful. On one occasion I came up against what appeared to be a huge pyschic shield that resembed an enormous brick and stone wall.
     Also I have yet to see any reports of anyone projecting inside Iraq. This is especially strange. With everything that has been happening it would seem natural for at least a few people to project into Iraq but apparently no one has been able to do this.
      Of course it is nearly impossible to know what is happening with certainly. My own guess is that some type of psychic shield or psychic wall has been put up around the top Iraqi leaders preventing the many projectors, OBEers and remote viewers from seeing inside Iraq. No doubt the US government has tried to see inside Iraq with remote viewers. Perhaps they were successful. In any event it should be much easier to project inside Iraq once US and British units begin their advance towards Baghdad. Then both the physical defenses and the psychic shield of the Iraqis will quickly begin to crumble.

[astralspinner]

I've read accounts in the past of something I think of as a Privacy Barrier - when people are doing something they don't want others to see, that desire for privacy/secrecy seems to manifest itself in the RTZ as a barrier that astral travellers find difficult/impossible to break through.

In a country that's about to be invaded, it's not hard to imagine the population wishing for a barrier between them and the outside world - after all, the outside world is about to start chucking explosives at them. And that subconscious desire for the outside world to STAY out could easily manifest on the RTZ as a barrier a Projector couldn't pass through.

So the barrier could well just be a natural creation of the population, rather than some kind of anti-psychic-spy measure.

[quant]

That sounds like a good explanation.

[Hephaestus]

Thank god for that, I was always worried somone on the astral could one day possibly see me having a poo poo on the tolet []

As for the war i'd love to project into Iraq but trying to project hasnt been easy lately, ive been too tired and been falling to sleep.

[noitarbiv]

I also projected to bahgdad but didnt see anything you described. what i saw was basically a ghost town, except for military presence.
One unusual thing i saw was dark streaks in the sky, kind of like thick grids extending across the city. It was unpleasant, but i didnt experience it as any kind of psychic shield keeping me from observing.

quote:Originally posted by Greytraveller

Over the past several weeks I have made repeated attempts to project and see inside Iraq. With the possible exeption of what could have been a remote viewing episode where I saw three big generators in a huge underground room (beneath Baghdad?) all attempts were unsuccessful. On one occasion I came up against what appeared to be a huge pyschic shield that resembed an enormous brick and stone wall.
     Also I have yet to see any reports of anyone projecting inside Iraq. This is especially strange. With everything that has been happening it would seem natural for at least a few people to project into Iraq but apparently no one has been able to do this.
      Of course it is nearly impossible to know what is happening with certainly. My own guess is that some type of psychic shield or psychic wall has been put up around the top Iraqi leaders preventing the many projectors, OBEers and remote viewers from seeing inside Iraq. No doubt the US government has tried to see inside Iraq with remote viewers. Perhaps they were successful. In any event it should be much easier to project inside Iraq once US and British units begin their advance towards Baghdad. Then both the physical defenses and the psychic shield of the Iraqis will quickly begin to crumble.

[goingslow]

How would you know you were really in iraq?

[DjMidgetMan]

Hmm... If I was good at projection i would try as much as I could. I just want to know what kinds of things are happening. America constantly suggests that the numbers of innocence in Iraq that will be lost will be very few because of their new "software" which allows for more accurate bombings. I just want to know if this is at all true, and what is really going on over there... [V]

[What Tha Phak]

MAybe theres a bunch of invisible UFOs flying around bagdhad which only a special technology can see and Iraq is aware of it and its really the US government teeamed up with an alien race trying to intimadate saying "new naw we have this technology..." but the realy funny thing is... if suddem hussein is a Nazi teeamed with china or north korea or some excrement planning to fulfil hitler's prophecies by conquering the world and makeing it all industrialized.  MAybe theres constantly psychic was between like aliens and humans that really know what s going on in the world and is for Human evolution to live with aliens and breed with them or maybe its all a conspiracy where the higher US rankers are really nazis and want to "kill the infedels" and they made HIV to control the population. Or maybe the one and onlyu 'god' really is "Allah" and we are going to be punished for not submissing... OR maybe... im just really high

"I smoke 2 joints in time of peace... and 2 in time of war... I smoke 2 joints before I smoke 2 joints and then I smoke 2 more..."[)]

[What Tha Phak]

Oh well, were all going to die from cancer at some point.  That is... unless we atone with our spiritual selves in time.

The war of the nations is who survives the longest

[weagle]

lets see the logic here on both sides and previous wars like yugoslavia/milochevich.  First thing they do is try and kill the leader this way the war ends immediately no casualties like they did with milochevich (ie bomb his mansion lucky he survived though).  Second scenario is if iraqi people fight you have to get them to surrender so you have to show to them how powerful you are so if they see them bombing military areas etc.. then if they see they have no chance to win then they will surrender.  Now the worst case is nobody surrenders, in that case one by one will die til they get to saddam hussein.  We all hope in any war it ends quickly and that the people surrender then very few will get killed.

>Hmm... If I was good at projection i would try as much as I could. I just want to know what kinds of things are happening. America constantly suggests that the numbers of innocence in Iraq that will be lost will be very few because of their new "software" which allows for more accurate bombings. I just want to know if this is at all true, and what is really going on over there...

[michael]

I astrally projected into the brains of the three three main"players" in the "Wolrd stage"..
In iraq president Saddam's head I was lost in a myriad of tunnels which were demented and disorganised and utterly delusional..
In Blair's brain i kept bumping against a massive ego that wanted to be somebody on the world stage..
In Bush's brain.....I had TOTAL freedom of movement..the corridors were empty..vacant..nothing there....

[DjMidgetMan]

hey what the phak, the one and only is god is Allah.... Allah is the Arabic word for God, and there is no god but God. If you really want to know what a Muslim is, it is someone who submits to God. It is believing that God passes his will over everything, and we are not the ones in control. We should realize that our freewill, our good fortune, our bad fortune, and all our power can not come to be without the will of God.

A Muslim is believing that this world is a test, and we were given our freewill by God to test us. We were given our souls to test us. Whoever does wrong to other people, they are wronging their own souls.
They will taste the evil of what they used to do in Hell.  Those who do good and have faith in God are helping their own souls. They will be rewarded for what they used to do in Heaven.

Jihad means to struggle, not 'holy war'. A martyr is one who fights against oppressors in the way of God. In the way of God simply means: no killing civilians, no killing soldiers who are unarmed or who surrender, and NO RISKING COLATERAL DAMAGE. In the times of Muhammad, jihad was usually fought if the religion of Islam was in danger of becoming extinct. Muhammad's enemies persecuted, oppressed and slaughtered his followers(and tried to kill him), because they wanted to wipe away the message of Islam off the face of the earth.

The Quran in my opinion is the final revelation to humanity, and a mercy unto mankind. Before Islam, Arabia was in complete chaos and anarchy. In a span of about 20 years, Islam turned the Arabs from unfaithful animals into completely civilized human beings. Islam ruled the Middle East in peace for over a millenium(except with a couple attacks from Mongols, Crusaders etc. etc.),. This ended when mainly the British broke up the Islamic empire, and turned the middle east into the chaos it is today.