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« on: October 19, 2008, 04:10:41 »

hello everyone!  I've been learning a lot about this reality of ours and looking at things from an entirely new perspective for some time now.  Most of the questions i've had have been answered in some sort of a way through my own experiences but there remains a couple questions i'm still a little skeptical about.  The main focus i have for asking these questions it seems is because i would like my dreams to start becoming more and more vivid and then hopefully reaching the point of lucidity within them before long.

The first question i have is what type of an effect smoking bud has on ones ability to experience the higher dimensions of reality?  I'm sure it's possible to leave the body when you're at a state like this (which i assume to have impure qualities to it) but that it's not necessarily the right path to take when aiming to achieve higher states of consciousness....   What kind of an effect does it have on your sleep and dreaming as well?

Also, this next question i have is a little funny i know, but i'm sure there's an answer out there which will help me make more sense of it.  The effects masturbation has in a spiritual sense much like my first question.

I assume both of these have an overall effect on our spiritual progression, but i'm willing to bet they have an even bigger effect if they are a habit at times... lol

Your guys help is appreciated!!!  My thanks to you in advance! Tongue

-kenny
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 18:26:49 »

I've heard from others that smoking cannabis has a direct effect on dream recall. Meaning that we have dreams all the time but not recall all of them.

Take a break from smoking and see if you suddenly get a rush of dreams as a test.

Also, I've been told that the hypnagogic imagery commonly seen while under the influence of THC can be achieved naturally through meditation practice.

Imagine just being able to sit quietly and explore imagery, designs, and wonderful art in your head without  having to take poison or medicine.

The hardest part will be to break away from the social aspect of smoking. Try to find a partner and friends outside of the doper culture.
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 18:26:49 »

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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 20:25:54 »

Hi Kenny

Smoking bud dosent really hinder you at first in my opinion. however it may come back to bite you in the butt later, Because the little grey robots from mars that work for WhoHEHaHa lace cannabis with a 4th density substance designed to turn your butt into a teleporter. being dark matter AI in the butt of a dead reptile cloned body means they have no energy system of there own so they need to use human beings as a bridge so they can rape the universe. this substance stays in your blood for years and years and once they have enough to start using you actively they will get quite cross when you suddenly dont want to be controlled  cheesy

Also spanking the monkey dosent really harm you at all infact it does the oposite relaxes you and lets you manage the energys in your sacrel center. if your not going to manage them responsibly with the things you like who will and what might they like *Shudders*
I know most of life wants you to be like a plant stand around sucking all the goodness out of life and never giving anything to lower realitys other than what you wouldent eat yourself but i think thats terible. and I see nothing great about mincing around in the heavens with a light bulb on your head looking down your nose at all the people you stepped on to get there. so dont worrie about what people think if its not relivent. managing all of your energy system is your Duty!

mostly people say dont do this or do that because it becomes a crutch , so if you can do it oh natural the first time you then can every time

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 15:29:49 »

Hi Kenny,
Smoking pot will effect your energy, but, spirit/energy/soul etc is far more powerful than that. You may find yourself having difficulty in focusing clearly as your filters will be blocked a bit. Dreams will return to clarity when you stop smoking for a while, andyou will be able to remember them better.

I had a client come to be introduced to his Higher-Self, but the guy arrived wasted and when he finally got to meet the HS directly, everything he saw was on an angle. When he asked why that was so, he was told, "You are the one who is bent."

Masturbation does nothing negative to your spiritual progress, you just get sore wrists if over doing it. Don't be afraid of it hurting your awakening, it can't.... so go buy more boxes of tissues, lol.

If you really want to run some awesome energy then moving away from Pot and other substances is a good idea as the clearer your physical body, the more power you can handle running through you.

There is nothing you can do to harm the Soul you are. Nothing. It is far too big and powerful for anything you can do in the physical.

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 22:51:34 »

First off, i would just love to thank everyone for all of their feedback!!!  Thank you Thank you Thank you!
I especially like what Tayesin had to say in regard to his clients affected perception and then the nature of the soul in general.

My beliefs about the issue have always swayed from time to time between how much of an impact cannabis really has toward ones awakening.  There were some periods because of this that i allowed me to really slip away for a brief period and my dreams had become much more clear and vivid and with much more remembrance of them.  Unfortunately though as iNNERvOYAGER stated, the hardest part is slipping away from the social aspect which comes with smoking and i was sort of pulled back after long.  The simple knowledge i've gained here should help me a lot however.  Thank you!

I suppose the strongest recipe for becoming a lucid dreamer, with the most probable chance for success then, would simply be to dispel my old habit(s) and keep in constant recognition of this desire with whatever practice i may find practical for me.

  • Throughout my life, I have never really remembered my dreams all that well and I should say it's safe to attribute this to my early habit in smoking with my friends back in high school on some rather regular occasions.  I would also assume it's safe to say that i have not become very very good at it because of this.

I'm not sure what to believe in light of your topic though NoY... I've heard the rumors of cannabis becoming laced with toxic chemicals before, but never to that far of an extent! cheesy  There is so much floating around there... i want to be extra cautious of what i believe now days, especially after the whole Oct. 14th concept. cry As you mentioned in your response to masturbation though... it is a means to managing your energy, but i would really love to "run some awesome energy" as Tayesin said only to find what other states are possible and i've heard before that this is why many spiritual teachers have recommended celibacy.  The extent to which dreaming and having obe's is affected by your energy level i guess is really where my concerns lie with this topic in specific.

My final question now i guess is simply in the methods one should take toward spiritual practice in achieving an awakened state.  A couple of my friends have both had obe's only briefly before which (without going into much detail) i would like to say are not illusionary and were true experiences for both of them.  I gather that everyone will have their own methods towards their individual enlightenment, but how big of a step an obe would really be for me in the process seems to be one of my main concerns.

Should i focus more towards being able to dream well, being able to manage my energy centers as NoY mentioned is my duty to do and one day leaving my body, or just keeping myself happy???  It does seem to be that these are all interrelated subjects and that finding my own individual path towards all of these will eventually result in the same thing in the end, but whether or not one subject is more fundamentally basic than the other is where i am uncertain.

I'm really sorry for the length of this post but anyones response will be of immense benefit to me!
once again thanks in advance, and for the feedback i got for my questions originally.

Peace - Light - and Love to you all!!!
-kenny
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 02:58:37 »

Smoking bud did nothing that bring me down, and I was a huge advocate of it at first. Now, my younger sister is getting into, or she is into it, rather, and I see her quoting Bob Marley and such (quotes like "The herb reveals you to yourself), but she has no idea of the adverse effects it CAN have on the human psyche. Sure, it reveals you to yourself, but what she doesn't know is that SHE can reveal herself, to herself. Sure, it's harmless, and it won't kill you, but it is also very debilitating to the mind and the psyche that controls our bodies and our ideas. It's not something you want to partake in during your younger years when you still have so much to learn and explore. When you're older, perhaps, and have answered a lot of the questions that have come to you in life, I would say that would be a much better time to smoke a drug that is going to alter your perception of reality and life as opposed to doing it naturally at a time where you're going to be naive about life just because you're young. You don't want to have any outside influences influencing you during this time. Be as pure as possible,

Believe me, I know from first hand experience.

Don't know what to say about the masturbation bit other than it's fun smiley

Gabriel

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 14:05:25 »

The whole celibacy concept is really old fashioned and was about not 'losing' one drop of energy in order to increase the store you might have. Only one problem with this idea is you are able to run more energy whenever you need it, so that makes the whole concept obsolete. Ideas about methods to awaken, grow, remember and use energy are found on my site... which I think you have been looking at anyway lately.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2008, 14:32:19 »

The whole celibacy concept is really old fashioned and was about not 'losing' one drop of energy in order to increase the store you might have. Only one problem with this idea is you are able to run more energy whenever you need it, so that makes the whole concept obsolete. Ideas about methods to awaken, grow, remember and use energy are found on my site... which I think you have been looking at anyway lately.

There are people who think going celibate will "save energy"? Hehe Smiley

I am aware of buddhism's idea behind celibacy, which has something to do with craving being the root cause of suffering and attachment.
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