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« on: February 24, 2003, 00:37:10 » |
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They showed Michael Jackson's video on Wed I think here in the USA and I caught some of it. It really isn't "the other side" of the story. Basically Bashir said things to Jackson to gain his trust (like saying Michael does a goob job raising his kids and everything). I dunno, I only caught a couple min, but it didn't seem like a tape that totally contradicted Bashir like they advertised it to be. Check it out tho, maybe I missed alot of the good parts...
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2003, 02:45:46 » |
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I think they should just leave the poor guy alone now.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2003, 18:44:31 » |
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To me it seems he realy DOES love children. It seems like any wrong he has done in the past with children or anything like that, he truly is sorry for, he sees the future in these kids, and showes them love and caring and happiness to make up for all the things he wanted when he was a boy. I really think he is a straight up good guy, even if he does lie about his face. [  ] No one should watch one special on TV about some guy who gained his trust then backstabbed him and say that Micheal is crazy and a freak. If these people were really so just in thinking they are so much better than him they would see that from what that show showed was that Bashir was far worse than Jackson. That's my 2 cent's!
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2003, 19:30:49 » |
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Yeah, Michael Jackson gets enough crap from people. But hey, he's making more than I am. He's obviously making someone happy or they wouldn't buy his albums. I'd switch places with him anyday, and so would a lot of other people, even though they'd probably deny it. I really don't think he did anything to kids either. I saw something on the news once about how kids make stuff up at a really young age. They will say stuff like that someone touched them in their "special" area or something. (why is it so special if we all have one? hehe) So maybe that could have been what happened to Michael, I don't know. It's easy to believe a kid if they say something like that. I know that I wouldn't think twice about it because if it was about a kid's safety I'd probably try to find out the truth and in the meantime keep whoever they said did it away from them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2003, 20:35:41 » |
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I think Michael Jackson is a good guy too. He may be weird, but I think his love for children is genuine. I mean look at him, he's basically still a kid himself! Even though thats not normal behavior for a 44 year old, I think people should just leave him alone. Plus you gotta think if the parents put the thoughts that Michael did something to them in their heads so the parents could make some easily millions my suing him...
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2003, 21:06:25 » |
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Greetings everyone,
According to the documentary, Jackson thinks himself of himself as Peter Pan - and if you look at him, that is almost exactly how he has styled himself - as the character Peter Pan from the books and movies. His amusement park and all the rest of it confirms that.
I don't really know much at all about Jackson despite being my era - similar age - Dire Straits, Queen, Roxy Music and other rock was/is more my scene - but my feeling is that the guy is completely harmless and genuine in his general love of kids. I certainly don't think he would ever think of harming a child. He even said "when I look at a childs face I see God". I don't know what was going through his mind when he said that, but he is closer to the truth than he might think.
As with many things, including of non-religious or Spiritual people - the world is full of prejudice, fear and hate of things and people they do not understand, and epitomises one of the main problem with the world today. Materialism, prejudice and dogma are major issues.
With best regards,
Adrian.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2003, 21:46:24 » |
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Its completely understandable ,though unfortunate that anybody who has contact with kids on a regular basis must be held under a watchfull eye untill they prove themselves trustwortrhy.IMHO Jackson is harmless but i do underatand people having different points of view.What i cant stand to see though is people forming a hasty negative opinion of anyone, or anything for that matter without bothering to look at the subject in question from all angles first.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2003, 17:14:51 » |
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Greetings,
Unfortunately, many people in the world are judgemental and slaves to creed and dogma. If it doesn't match their indoctrination it is wrong. I respect Jackson for living by his own standards and not by others. I think his biggest problem is the way he antagonises people, like dangling the child over the balcony - he just can't see it it seems. Not appearing at concerts etc. doesn't help his cause either.
I do think he is harmless however, and should be left to live his life.
With best regards,
Adrian.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2003, 23:10:36 » |
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Of course pedophiles love children. http://www.nambla1.de/These people call themselves "boy lovers." They believe they are the devoted champions of childrens rights. (Including the "right" of a child to have sex with an adult.) Their adoration of children approaches religious fervor. Sweet-smelling Boy God Who nourishes bees From the lips of flowers. Life-giving Boy God ... When you will whisper That pollen should be sucked Like the seed of men From its silken shaft source. I think Jackson would feel right at home.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2003, 23:12:49 » |
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I always though it suspicious that his sleep-over companions were almost exclusivly young boys. You'd always see pictures of him waving from a hotel room balcony with five or six boys. Why does his innocent love of children not extend equally to girls?
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2003, 17:15:16 » |
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Pedophiles love kids in a sick way.. but might as well extend that logic and say anyone who loves kids is a pedophile.
I think its obvious when people say "so and so loves kids" they mean love.. not that they're predatory upon or turned on by them
Do you not say I love kids now because pedophiles say that?
And if MJ thinks he has problems now.. once he starts inviting little girls on these sleep overs you're really gonna see him catch hell. I think though if he wanted to hide the fact he likes little boys he'd put girls there. But many parents dont let their kids have co eds sleep overs even after age 6 or 7.. so i dont see why they'd suddenly let their girls go sleep over at a mans house. there are boyscouts with all guys.. might as well say its because the boyscout leaders want to have sex with them so they dont invite girls.
But your'e right pedophiles love kids.. so if you love kids you must be a pedophile. excrement i better stop saying i love them then.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2003, 18:18:56 » |
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To add to Silva's point about the media, did anybody hear about that WWF wrestler who recently died in a match? They say McMahon made the wrestlers keep fighting and just told everyone the guy's neck was broken and that he would be ok. It goes to show you how sick corporations have become. That's just downright unspeakably selfish and evil. I hope he goes bankrupt for that.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2003, 20:23:02 » |
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quote: Originally posted by Adrian
He even said "when I look at a childs face I see God". I don't know what was going through his mind when he said that, but he is closer to the truth than he might think.
Interesting, Michael Jackson is probably more aware of the truth than you might think. He seems to be rather friendly with two genuine miracle workers, Uri Geller & David Blaine.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2003, 20:55:58 » |
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MJ doesn't like girls because boys are better than girls. [  ] Wow, that reminded me of elementary school. [  ] The reason I don't think he's a pedophile is because of he basically thinks he's still a kid himself. Like Adrian said, he claims to be Peterpan. So it makes sense that kids are the age type that he feels most comfortable with. He does have problems, but I think they're more mental problems accepting his actual age rather than pedophiling (is that a word)? Plus if he was a pedophile, you would think more than 1 case would be charged against him with the amount of children that visit Neverland. Anyways, I would like to say for the record that I was in the Cub/Boyscouts for a long time and made Life Scout (rank just below Eagle) before quitting. During my time in the scouts, I never once heard of anything like that happening. And I went to many camps where troops all over the country come together and I never once heard of it happening in another troop. I think that it's a rumor that was probably started by some homophobic guy that loves nothing more than making fun of and bashing gay people. I think we all know someone like that. (I'm not saying you're one goingslow, I've heard that rumor many times before after mentioning I was in the Scouts) I'm not saying people in Scouts are gay either. [  ] If anyone WAS gay in my troop, they did a good job keeping it from everyone has yet to go public with it. I quit the Scouts because I was losing interest in it, as well as I didn't quite care for or agree with alot of religious aspects in the Scouts. -Ethan
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