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« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2017, 09:34:45 »

Plasma... We can't see the future like that. There's too many variables. Robots will take jobs, but that doesn't mean there wont be new type of jobs.
Your health might be declining but the modern medicine is getting more and more advanced.
Things will get better because people understand theses things, when something goes wrong people complain until it's fixed.
Humanity is not doomed yet.
Listen, I know it's tough and being disabled is really not something to look forward to, but you can't give up so easily just because you think that things are bad around you doesn't mean they wont get better.
If you're in america I know health care is terribly expensive and it sucks but they'll figure something out.
They can't let people die like that. And as we climb the years it's gonna get worse for them if they keep doing it because people know these thing.
Every year that passes people realize "What? 2020 and still no health insurance? are you kidding me?"
There will be riots until it's fixed trust me.
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« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2017, 10:45:40 »

you should forget about karma. It's a weight on you don't let it run your life. Don't do things becuase you think it's good or bad. Just do what you want for yourself and you will be happy you did so.

I know this isn't the best thing to write when someone is talking about sucide but I mean what I said.
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« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2017, 13:12:15 »

Plasma...I am going to say it again....now having looked at your other threads.... you are headed for a nervous breakdown.  I had an old friends years back that took your route so I recognise it.  She went bi-polar overnight and after two weeks thinking she had the solution to every problem (abnormal high)...unable to sleep...her body froze.  When I next saw her she was still frozen...that's how bad it got.  She never actually came right.  She hated taking her mess because life wasn't fun but without them she constantly tripped into bi polar high.  Some bipolars are high...some down....

It could be as simple as vit b deficiency at the root cause.  Get tested.  Get vit b complex right away but get some vit b12 and vit b17 asap also.  If your system can't absorb b17 then sublingual or injections will by pass digestive system.  

Depression , sleep problems...ptsd.....a host of all manner of haywire symptoms...all b12 and b17.

To all who are worried about automation...robots...taking jobs.  Cease!  It's all nonsense.  Firstly it will take years of development to get something useful and as soon as one company starts with job losses the immediate repercussion will be the loss of spending, tax payments....etc and end to all that.  Without people shopping the country will grind to a halt...no need for robots because nobody will buy a thing they produce.  No money, no spend...everything ends.  The brain dead CEOs that only see $$$ savings from cutting employee costs but are going to trip over their greed because it's us the shoppers that support the entire process.  No income, no shoppers...no spending.....no sales......nothing works.

Let's see how they and their robots like that!

So seriously...let them dream on....but don't panic and worry.  By all means do see it as unrealistic get-rich-quick scheme that's going to backfire dramatically. Keep your heads...there will be talk and some turbulence until they see their folly.  Some countries like Israel....have already identified this and are ahead of the curve.  I was surprised to see old people actually manning traffic lights.  That's how they give their aged work so they feel connected and valuable.  Sure we can automate...but at what cost?  

Selski I didn't think you were being negative or poking.  I guess I interpreted it as questioning to see what common ground you discovered in others.  Sorry to hear you too are weighed down...check your B levels as above.  I am very into prevention and running my body well.  It is after all a precious gift of trust and responsibility and a combined project of zillions of intelligent beings trusting me to protect them by keeping our system running smoothly while we all learn and improve.  





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« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2017, 15:53:39 »

Well Plasma here is all I want to say and I am off...

Your OP header said it all.  You know it's crazy or an act of a victim.  So really you are milking it for sympathy and entertainment.

Evidently you are intelligent enough...but not that intelligent because then you would know personality disorders and/or mental disorders and intelligence are not mutually exclusive.  So you have the brains to go do something about your life but are just too ...what?....lazy?  Another one of these generation x'ers who want to be spoon fed?  

You are not living in poverty.  You have internet.  That presupposes a home.  Plenty of people live in poverty and you are milking it pretending.  Well....given we create our reality with our thoughts and beliefs.....I can predict what conditions you will create.  Don't go bleating about it then....wallow in your misery quietly...it's by choice.  People can become addicted to misery....nobody can help till you hit rock bottom and decide you want to change.  So keep your misery and enjoy it fully till you are done.

As to the hair rained scheme...which it is....

Hard reality will apply and either the insurance payout will be denied or the beneficiaries will almost instantly lose the entire lot.  Emptying a bucket in a glass of water tends to overturn the lot and it all goes everywhere.  Recipients have to accept it.  If they are like you...like attracts like.....don't forget the apple never falls far from the tree....crabs in a barrel hold onto each other etc.....they like their misery and lifestyle and are just as addicted to gripping and performing.  So nature will take its course and that will be that.

From a personal 'spiritual' perspective...you are disrespecting yourself, your ability and your entire bunch of people that banded together to make your life happen and keep you going.  You are not alone.  You have a team.  Every cell in your body is intelligent and has a brain and has a choice to group with your energy for the purposes of its advancement while helping you construct a 'body' to experience this dimension.  It's a joint effort.  You are like a loose cannon thinking muddled grey thoughts and in your own mission to self destruct.  

It's them who have responded here through every single poster.  They got them to tell you in black and white what they think. These responses are not accidental.  It's their message to you.  The universe...your team of helpers...every cell in your body...has responded to your question.

Pick your sorry self up....go get a job...make a job...clean windows ...do something....because it's in the doing something that the universe can find you and send something towards you via another person.  But you have to pitch in and work.  One step..one day....one cent.....it all adds up.  

Sure free will applies.  So while you surround yourself with such muck nobody can see you and you are alone.  And that's how you will stay...in the slime pit of self pity.  It's your choice.  Body or no body..dead or alive....that's where you will stay ....here or there ....until you sort yourself out.  So may as well be here so you can actually get a life and stop wasting your team's efforts to get you going.

But I do also understand that you are probably in life 200++ doing exactly the same thing and habits are hard to break.  We all have our own challenges and getting off your but is yours.  Seems easy for us....but probably too scary for you.  It's easier to self sabotage then face the possibility of making something happen.  Because that's what you are shitting yourself over...making something happen.  

If you really want to live in poverty...hike across to Africa ...that's where poverty can be found.  Don't bother taking anything because people there don't have shoes, clothes or food.  They scratch like chickens the bare earth for something to eat.  Internet isn't even on the horizon.  

But you are in a wealthy environment with loads of opportunity...you have some education...enough to get into some training ....evidently you set yourself up to have all this to give you options to use to get going.....so overcoming your fear of achieving is all ho,ding you in the grey slimepit.....get off your backside.  

Or not. Groundhog Day yet again....
You don't know me or my health condition. Your just assuming that I can live like everyone else. I have a foot problem where I can't walk much, I have digestive issues where I can only eat a limited amount of certain foods, I have tinnitus and hearing loss, all of these are chronic long term problems that I've had for years.

And I looked it up we are a little above the poverty level. Which still isn't good, but is reason enough for me to consider the life insurance policy.

And when I put in the title "crazy idea that can't possibly help" I didn't put that because that is what I thought of the idea, I put that based on what some of you's would probably think of it.

As far as for the personality disorder and intelligence, well your right on that, I was tired last night typing out he replies so it wasn't like I was taking an exam in college.  smiley  But the important thing is that I don't have any personality disorders, I barely have depression and anxiety, and I do see my psychiatrist and primary care doctor regularly to treat it, so if I had a mental disorder or personality disorder they would likely catch it and I would know about it. But I don't have any personality disorders, I am a logical reasonable person that has come to a crossroads in his life.

Just a practical thought...are you vit b12 or B17 or B complex deficient? 

Check it out.  B17 deficiency causes depression and all manner of stuff depending on your weakness
I don't know, I see my doctor regularly and he does blood work.

Again don't assume that I am like you or everyone else, I know my health condition better than anyone else. And if it is pity as you say it is then explain to me why I did so well in college? Right, it doesn't make sense because it's not pity or self loathing. I even stuck around in college for a year after getting severe depression. The situation isn't as black and white as you would like to believe Visitor.
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« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2017, 16:01:33 »

Plasma - I just want to say I fully understand this as I'm also in the same boat. I'm lucky in that I've found a job where I can work from home at my own hours on a computer, but otherwise life is tough.

Sending you plenty of kind, loving thoughts.  smiley
Thanks a lot for the love and support. It looks like Mr. Visitor over here needs to have some health conditions in his next incarnation to be more understanding like us. LOL
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« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2017, 16:08:06 »

Plasma... We can't see the future like that. There's too many variables. Robots will take jobs, but that doesn't mean there wont be new type of jobs.
Your health might be declining but the modern medicine is getting more and more advanced.
Things will get better because people understand theses things, when something goes wrong people complain until it's fixed.
Humanity is not doomed yet.
Listen, I know it's tough and being disabled is really not something to look forward to, but you can't give up so easily just because you think that things are bad around you doesn't mean they wont get better.
If you're in america I know health care is terribly expensive and it sucks but they'll figure something out.
They can't let people die like that. And as we climb the years it's gonna get worse for them if they keep doing it because people know these thing.
Every year that passes people realize "What? 2020 and still no health insurance? are you kidding me?"
There will be riots until it's fixed trust me.
This really isn't about robots taking our jobs, this is about my love for my family and my declining health. And I am very optimistic about our future, so I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I love researching about new technologies and stuff like that. I have health insurance through Obamacare, I see my doctor and psychiatrist regularly.  That isn't the issue. If there was something more that could be done it would have been done. I have seen over a dozen specialists and they still aren't much closer to getting back to my normal self. But they have helped greatly and saved my life and for that I am grateful. But as of now there is only so much that can be done. Thank you for your concern Kzaal.
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« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2017, 16:13:21 »

you should forget about karma. It's a weight on you don't let it run your life. Don't do things becuase you think it's good or bad. Just do what you want for yourself and you will be happy you did so.

I know this isn't the best thing to write when someone is talking about sucide but I mean what I said.
Yeah I see what you mean, I wish things were that simple though. Thanks for chiming in funfire.
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« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2017, 23:22:49 »

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I have a foot problem where I can't walk much, I have digestive issues where I can only eat a limited amount of certain foods, I have tinnitus and hearing loss, all of these are chronic long term problems that I've had for years.

It sounds like the Wim Hof Method might be able to help you. People have gone from being utterly bed-ridden with arthritis, or Parkinson's, to climbing Mt Kilimanjaro in a matter of months. It works well for digestive issues too, basically cured my auto immune condition with wheat.

I suggest you try out this video and focus on your pain in an energy healing style mindset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAhAOTXHeNs.

Cold exposure takes the healing benefits to the next level. All the science is here: http://www.athletespotential.com/uploads/2/4/7/3/24730224/cold-stress.pdf

On the digestion issue again, intermittent fasting - google 5 hour or warrior diet for when to eat. Healthy fat based diets for what to eat. It cures a lot of illnesses. Look into "modified atkins" for cancer and epilepsy.
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« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2017, 07:41:22 »

I agree with you TOG about the cold therapy part...I grew up in temperate climate and landed working in Scandinavian winters...typically the project would last through the autumn to spring and I would get summer off to go Southern Hemisphere to another winter to family!  I would say after 15 years of that, that I am now immune to cold.  Unfortunately old age breakdowns means I can't live in cold ...which I loved.... doesn't suit arthritis too well....but then old age isn't for the snowflakes.

It all comes under the heading...what doesn't kill, strengthens!  

To this OP person I would say...you confirmed my suspicion..... diet is indeed one of your biggest problems.  Probiotics ...everything pickled in brine naturally and not pasteurised...also yoghurt....uncooked vegetables....don't go buying off the shelf pickled stuff that has been processed and has every bacteria killed.....it will sort your digest problems and others too no doubt since once you have imbalance ..all hell breaks lose.  Your system needs bacteria.  Once your gut bacteria are gone your system cannot tolerate much....gut bacteria is what processes the food.....so restoring that through probiotics and fresh fruit and veg of all kinds for different strains will return the digestive ability to process food back to completely normal and you can eat everything again.  And quickly too. Simple really.

Learn to make your own.....salt water and vegetables!  But the quantity of salt to water needs to be right or the salt kills the bacteria...so be careful with recipe.  

If you can't eat food...you are likely down on all needed vitamins which means hormones are not on track.....back to that....lack of b complex, critical b12 and 17 ...toss in vit C since all fruit and veg is too old in the shops to contain any...helps the immune system etc ....is what has you with depression, ptsd, sleep problems, nightmares etc etc...it's a system in chaos.   Look it up!  Huge health studies have been done and published...huge money spent...top universities involved....this is not a recent discovery.  Your body then breaks down and all hell is loose.

You are intelligent enough to start reading and see the sense.  Doctors want money...there is no incentive to fix you.  You have to fix yourself and get out their pockets.  You are a cash cow for them right now.

Google it...vitb12 health problems..... etc the rest.  Don't take my word for it. 

Right away go to a health store...a good reputable one...get some probiotic cabbage ....kimchi or sauerkraut...some probiotic yoghurt....out the fridge....must be live bacteria so always in the fridge.  Make sure of this!  Eat it!  You will notice a difference right away to your diet and within days you can eat everything...get some b complex especially with b12 and b17.... sublingual since your digestive system is shot.  And that as they say is that.  End of depression...nightmares...ptsd...tinnitus....the works!  A good diet....healthy digestive system providing nutrients to allow hormones to get manufactured and used.....gets the system back into order.

Antibiotics are nothing more than fungus.  Which is one reasons doctors are now understanding how really dangerous it is and what it does to the body.....and probably the cause of cancer.  Avoid all antibiotics and all fungus...including mushrooms.  You can't kill fungus...the stuff is even growing on the outside of the space lab having gotten there from down here!  

It isn't a magic pill...but close enough...it's a magic mouthful!

You can mope about feeling sorry for yourself and make stupid plans to kill yourself over it or you get grow up and take responsibility to clean up your system and keep a clean house.  

There is a reason I am pro prevention.  It's not accidental or because I felt like it.  

Clean your system
Get a five point plan to improve your health
Get  a five point plan to improve your income
Get a five point plan to improve your life

And be aware that your thoughts, your beliefs, what you spend your time doing, thinking about is what traps you to the grey and the negativity which is then a repeat cycle.  

Take a long walk to get some endorphins kick in...at least an hour.
Do some meditation

Do anything that improves your mood....even dreaming of what you want your life to become helps you alter your mood and start to dissipate the clouds...you pull yourself out.

It seems you have no problems with planning...you just spend it on negative plans!  So switch sides to positive and redo the plan.....and carry on.

And no!  I am intolerant of all this because it is just so easy to sort it out.  Why tolerate failure when success is just easier?  

Think about it.  We have to work really hard to bonk up a system that works perfectly and heals itself perfectly!  Everything about us and our lives would be perfection if we just didn't bonk it up by not doing the right thing.  
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« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2017, 20:28:05 »

Plasma what is obvious to me is that you care so much for your family, those you feel either responsible for or indebted to. I think most of us can understand that although some maybe better than others. I would do most anything for MY family.

I am one of those people that did have a NDE. My experience was so unlike anything I had ever read as those are usually relegated to religious dogma as you pointed out in a reply. It took me a couple of years to sort and even begin to understand much of what happened but I feel I should share a part with you.

The actual experience and details are not important, the message is. The message was simply that as I have my own road to travel so do each and every member of my family and while I am expected to help them along the way with loving support it is not my business what they choose to do. THEY have to pull themselves out of their own conflicting and constraining thought patterns and ways, not me. Only they can do THEIR work as only I can do MINE.

I hope that makes sense. It is noble to put your family first but it is not possible to walk their path for them.

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« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2017, 20:47:02 »

I should add my point here after dear Nameless.

Just a though example from first hand. I have a father, who manifested himself Parkinson's disease. He suffers from himself, FORCING everything on others in the past and present and on his own body - he is like spreading his suffering from thinking the bad way (and he is religious too, no surprise), he just never will able to intellectually understand that HE did this to HIMSELF and nobody else - I will soon leave him to live alone. Also my brother is suffering from himself, not so much as my dad, but not just they both, EVERYbody has their own path. You could love your family as much as you can, but you can't live other's life ever. Everybody responsible for only their lives, thoughts, choices and actions. Now the negative side is that people will drag you down to their hell.
And as long as you have a good hearted family which is rare, You are living your life and making your own path.

First of all you should search deep inside for your beliefs, what are you thinking about your own health. I'm sure you could someday find evidence that your health problems are rooted deep inside in your NP mind's background and you should change your thinking. Your body will automatically catch up with reprogramming your "subconscious" and you can be much better, also your health problems could diminish.
This also works on work or being financially independent. It is up to you. People don't want to work on themselves, here you go Planet Earth. So much sick, people, mentally and egoistical, trying to blame each other.

Some people here suggested this and that. You could eath more healthy if you didn't and take in pills, but as long as the main cause of your belief in your health and life won't change, your body won't neither and your situation. It is up to you only. If somebody tries to change him/herself, I guess miracles could happen.
Here is a little example. I was myopic for a long time until 4 years ago. I had enough. I'm always learning and doing whatever is needed to change something. I did it and got my vision back to clear for far and near-sight. It was a big belief that I have short-sightedness sitting in front of PC and gaming as a teenager back than. Oh comeon and there are people who have - after the same amount of screen staring - normal sight.

So your challenges are there, I guess you can do it and change your reality. Remember that you are not on the mercy of circumstances and people's opinions, not even physical stuff - you are projecting out everything on your body and others with your thoughts. Don't give up, you are becoming as you are making decisions and choices.
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« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2017, 00:00:20 »

It sounds like the Wim Hof Method might be able to help you. People have gone from being utterly bed-ridden with arthritis, or Parkinson's, to climbing Mt Kilimanjaro in a matter of months. It works well for digestive issues too, basically cured my auto immune condition with wheat.

I suggest you try out this video and focus on your pain in an energy healing style mindset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAhAOTXHeNs.

Cold exposure takes the healing benefits to the next level. All the science is here: http://www.athletespotential.com/uploads/2/4/7/3/24730224/cold-stress.pdf

On the digestion issue again, intermittent fasting - google 5 hour or warrior diet for when to eat. Healthy fat based diets for what to eat. It cures a lot of illnesses. Look into "modified atkins" for cancer and epilepsy.
Dude that is a lot of stuff to read. I'll do what I can. I'm skeptical of alternative therapies but I'll look into it and see if it's something that can work for me.  smiley
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« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2017, 00:12:37 »

I agree with you TOG about the cold therapy part...I grew up in temperate climate and landed working in Scandinavian winters...typically the project would last through the autumn to spring and I would get summer off to go Southern Hemisphere to another winter to family!  I would say after 15 years of that, that I am now immune to cold.  Unfortunately old age breakdowns means I can't live in cold ...which I loved.... doesn't suit arthritis too well....but then old age isn't for the snowflakes.

It all comes under the heading...what doesn't kill, strengthens!  

To this OP person I would say...you confirmed my suspicion..... diet is indeed one of your biggest problems.  Probiotics ...everything pickled in brine naturally and not pasteurised...also yoghurt....uncooked vegetables....don't go buying off the shelf pickled stuff that has been processed and has every bacteria killed.....it will sort your digest problems and others too no doubt since once you have imbalance ..all hell breaks lose.  Your system needs bacteria.  Once your gut bacteria are gone your system cannot tolerate much....gut bacteria is what processes the food.....so restoring that through probiotics and fresh fruit and veg of all kinds for different strains will return the digestive ability to process food back to completely normal and you can eat everything again.  And quickly too. Simple really.

Learn to make your own.....salt water and vegetables!  But the quantity of salt to water needs to be right or the salt kills the bacteria...so be careful with recipe.  

If you can't eat food...you are likely down on all needed vitamins which means hormones are not on track.....back to that....lack of b complex, critical b12 and 17 ...toss in vit C since all fruit and veg is too old in the shops to contain any...helps the immune system etc ....is what has you with depression, ptsd, sleep problems, nightmares etc etc...it's a system in chaos.   Look it up!  Huge health studies have been done and published...huge money spent...top universities involved....this is not a recent discovery.  Your body then breaks down and all hell is loose.

You are intelligent enough to start reading and see the sense.  Doctors want money...there is no incentive to fix you.  You have to fix yourself and get out their pockets.  You are a cash cow for them right now.

Google it...vitb12 health problems..... etc the rest.  Don't take my word for it. 

Right away go to a health store...a good reputable one...get some probiotic cabbage ....kimchi or sauerkraut...some probiotic yoghurt....out the fridge....must be live bacteria so always in the fridge.  Make sure of this!  Eat it!  You will notice a difference right away to your diet and within days you can eat everything...get some b complex especially with b12 and b17.... sublingual since your digestive system is shot.  And that as they say is that.  End of depression...nightmares...ptsd...tinnitus....the works!  A good diet....healthy digestive system providing nutrients to allow hormones to get manufactured and used.....gets the system back into order.

Antibiotics are nothing more than fungus.  Which is one reasons doctors are now understanding how really dangerous it is and what it does to the body.....and probably the cause of cancer.  Avoid all antibiotics and all fungus...including mushrooms.  You can't kill fungus...the stuff is even growing on the outside of the space lab having gotten there from down here!  

It isn't a magic pill...but close enough...it's a magic mouthful!

You can mope about feeling sorry for yourself and make stupid plans to kill yourself over it or you get grow up and take responsibility to clean up your system and keep a clean house.  

There is a reason I am pro prevention.  It's not accidental or because I felt like it.  

Clean your system
Get a five point plan to improve your health
Get  a five point plan to improve your income
Get a five point plan to improve your life

And be aware that your thoughts, your beliefs, what you spend your time doing, thinking about is what traps you to the grey and the negativity which is then a repeat cycle.  

Take a long walk to get some endorphins kick in...at least an hour.
Do some meditation

Do anything that improves your mood....even dreaming of what you want your life to become helps you alter your mood and start to dissipate the clouds...you pull yourself out.

It seems you have no problems with planning...you just spend it on negative plans!  So switch sides to positive and redo the plan.....and carry on.

And no!  I am intolerant of all this because it is just so easy to sort it out.  Why tolerate failure when success is just easier?  

Think about it.  We have to work really hard to bonk up a system that works perfectly and heals itself perfectly!  Everything about us and our lives would be perfection if we just didn't bonk it up by not doing the right thing.
I see about the therapy. I just brought some probiotics we'll see if that helps. I'm skeptical but it might work. And I've already got vitamin B12 that I will use. But I've already used it in the past and it didn't do much, so I'm skeptical. Lastly I don't think my condition is as easy to fix as you seem to make it. I use to research all kinds of alternative therapies that never did much of anything for me. But I'll see. Thanks for your concern.
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« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2017, 00:21:45 »

Plasma what is obvious to me is that you care so much for your family, those you feel either responsible for or indebted to. I think most of us can understand that although some maybe better than others. I would do most anything for MY family.

Yes this. I do feel indebted to them. That is why I feel I must go above and beyond to help them.

I am one of those people that did have a NDE. My experience was so unlike anything I had ever read as those are usually relegated to religious dogma as you pointed out in a reply. It took me a couple of years to sort and even begin to understand much of what happened but I feel I should share a part with you.

The actual experience and details are not important, the message is. The message was simply that as I have my own road to travel so do each and every member of my family and while I am expected to help them along the way with loving support it is not my business what they choose to do. THEY have to pull themselves out of their own conflicting and constraining thought patterns and ways, not me. Only they can do THEIR work as only I can do MINE.

I hope that makes sense. It is noble to put your family first but it is not possible to walk their path for them.

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Thank you so much for sharing your NDE. I too have learned that people must learn from their own mistakes. Sometimes I get so worked up over the political stuff that is going on and then I just realize that it really doesn't matter that much anyway, because it will regulate itself. I am a democrat because I think they are the lessor of two evils. So when Trump became president I just said OK they will have to learn from their own mistakes that that is a bad idea. And it's crazy that my brother that benefited so much from democrats his whole life all of the sudden wants to go republican after he starts making good money. So I get it. We can't be too pushy otherwise it can backfire too. Which is a big reason we need to let them make their own mistakes. Now the question becomes does giving them money help them or hinder them in learning and growing? I think to answer that is difficult because it depends on the family. Thanks for chiming in Nameless.  smiley
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« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2017, 00:26:16 »

I see about the therapy. I just brought some probiotics we'll see if that helps. I'm skeptical but it might work. And I've already got vitamin B12 that I will use. But I've already used it in the past and it didn't do much, so I'm skeptical. Lastly I don't think my condition is as easy to fix as you seem to make it. I use to research all kinds of alternative therapies that never did much of anything for me. But I'll see. Thanks for your concern.

Like in everything, details matter. B12 comes in many forms. The methylcobalamin is the more active form. Injections are much more effective. Concentration matters. I know these because my wife suffers of pernicious anemia, and biweekly injections are vital for her. Consult a naturopath doctor about these!
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« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2017, 00:32:30 »

... And it's crazy that my brother that benefited so much from democrats his whole life all of the sudden wants to go republican after he starts making good money. ...

I believe that is defectuous reasoning ... "good / bad" shouldn't be dictated by your personal interest! You don't live to get, but to do!
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« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2017, 01:12:45 »

Just a though example from first hand. I have a father, who manifested himself Parkinson's disease. He suffers from himself, FORCING everything on others in the past and present and on his own body - he is like spreading his suffering from thinking the bad way (and he is religious too, no surprise), he just never will able to intellectually understand that HE did this to HIMSELF and nobody else - I will soon leave him to live alone. Also my brother is suffering from himself, not so much as my dad, but not just they both, EVERYbody has their own path.

I take the middle ground when it comes to the idea that we manifest diseases. I think some health conditions are manifested by our thoughts like obesity and diabetes while others are not. Certainly nobody would say to an old man, "you manifested an aging body because of your negative thoughts." LOL So obviously some conditions are manifested by our thoughts while others are manifested by age, random chance, or genetics. Cancer is in fact random to a large degree. Anyway you get the idea. And yes for me I would say that my thoughts in part created the condition I am in the problem is that damage to the physical body has already been done.

Here is a little example. I was myopic for a long time until 4 years ago. I had enough. I'm always learning and doing whatever is needed to change something. I did it and got my vision back to clear for far and near-sight. It was a big belief that I have short-sightedness sitting in front of PC and gaming as a teenager back than. Oh comeon and there are people who have - after the same amount of screen staring - normal sight.

Interesting story. I do know that I have some really bad negative deep seated emotions, but I doubt that changing them would make me get better. I think I've damaged my physical body too the point where it can't fix itself. But I hope your right and that it can be fixed by just dealing with my underlying beliefs and emotions.

So your challenges are there, I guess you can do it and change your reality. Remember that you are not on the mercy of circumstances and people's opinions, not even physical stuff - you are projecting out everything on your body and others with your thoughts. Don't give up, you are becoming as you are making decisions and choices.

I wish it's as easy as you say it is. Yes I do need to do more work on myself. Thanks for chiming in Phildan1.
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« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2017, 01:14:57 »

Like in everything, details matter. B12 comes in many forms. The methylcobalamin is the more active form. Injections are much more effective. Concentration matters. I know these because my wife suffers of pernicious anemia, and biweekly injections are vital for her. Consult a naturopath doctor about these!
I've got methylcobalamin which is taken subliminally. One time I had so much in my system that the doctors office called me to tell me it was very high. LOL Though she said that it's probably fine, but that they just had to let me know I had a lot of it in my system.
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« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2017, 01:20:23 »

I've got methylcobalamin which is taken subliminally. One time I had so much in my system that the doctors office called me to tell me it was very high. LOL Though she said that it's probably fine, but that they just had to let me know I had a lot of it in my system.

You probably meant sublingually. Injections are much more effective. As far as I know the excess B12 is eliminated in urine (you'll see redish),  and there are generally no side effects. At some point my wife thought that she may have got migranes from overdosing, which proved incorrect, and she wasn't overdosing.
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« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2017, 01:30:48 »

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I just had a dream while taking a nap during the day. In the dream you's convinced me that I should wait 10 years before doing this so that I could be with my nephew until he's older. Which in real life is a good idea. But I just don't know how practical it is. But yes I will try to prolong my life as much as I can if I take the route of the martyr.

Then later in my sleep while dreaming I had a very deep sense of sorrow, and I was crying because I knew that I messed so much in my life it was like a cry from hell almost. EIDT: I was trying to look into a mirror too while crying. The thing is is that I was warned about this many years ago through prophesies from my dad. As bad  as my dad was with his fundamentalist christian thinking, I do believe that some higher power tried to warn him and I about the what was to come. And what came was a time of great emotional stress years later that took a big toll on my emotional health for quite some time. And obviously I am still trying to work out that negative trauma. As it's still haunting me in my dreams.

I recently started taking amitriptyline which is causing all these negative emotions from my past to come up in dreams.

I just want to thank all of you's so much for your love and support. Even though we don't agree on everything I still feel the love from all of you's here. And for that I am grateful for everyone that has been here to help me from my first post to my current post. Thanks again to everyone here.
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« Reply #70 on: August 27, 2017, 10:12:59 »

With exception of Vit b17 which I haven't investigated fully so don't yet know...vit B is destroyed naturally by oxygen within hours.  So no problems overdosing.  Same with C.  In fact it was my doc who gave me that hint way back decades ago and I have used both ever since in high doses.  Lifespan is max 4 hours so I used the tablets for slow release in winter and high stress situations...like when flying so no sleep and heavy workload when I land! 

The body will heal itself and self correct ....UNLESS..... there is some reason for pre-existing permanent damage done with use of drugs like meths etc.  Then it's a very different story.  Damage like this cannot self correct.  But I stand corrected on this too since the body is amazing...given time and will of the person...it may.  We do live in a quantum world so all things are possible with enough focus and will.  It's just that in his situation you know loads more will be needed to heal the scars.

As to your previous trauma...why are you still holding onto it?  Emotions are like nasty kids demanding attention.  Let it go.  Write the thing out...burn it up...let it go.  Keep doing it till you have let it go.  You need to reach a place where yes, it was hard...no you no longer are upset by how hard it was...just neutral...and maybe can see that it was necessary.  It speaks of a stubborn nature that is holding onto all hurts and grudges.  What a waste of energy to have to recreate all this every day.  Every day you have to remember what happened...what you felt etc amen.....just to feel it again so you can relive the negativity and keep it fresh.  Let go...let god.

But it's also all part of your challenge that you came with a stubborn nature to hold on to all emotional slights that get internalised so the poison festers..That bile gets churned up....and eats you up inside.

Finding inner peace, inner stability and ability for inner poise....to find that place inside you that is your inner link to the light where calmness, love and peace exist....to let go, let god...is what is needed...... there is a saying...search and you shall find.  I know it exists because I found it.  I felt peace where you knew that doing something or not doing something...it was all fine...it was all peace....and unfortunately when it descended I was driving and had to break at the bottom of the hill....there wasn't such a thing as doing or not doing at the speed I was going!  So I came back...it dissipated.....but that memory of it lasting so long and how it felt, is with me always. 

All this is available for you when you are tired of living negatively and defending the negativity until you are even willing to give your life to it...so strongly are you it's prisoner.

let go of all the past slights, hurt emotions...it's always hurt emotions!...this is entire world is the realm of emotions and lessons based on emotions....it's always emotions that hound us and bind us to negativity.  There is a vast difference between emotions that are temporary...and feelings which are not.  Without emotions we are perfect!  The positive emotions are fine...but the negative are a bag of tricks.  You will know this when I say that even hatred is an emotion...and even when you hate there is a kernel of space inside you that loves.  When you are angry, there is the place of peace always there.  And of course all these emotions are normal...even Christ battled with them.  We have him as mentor and know he was wretched with them too!  Gethsemane is all about him grappling with fear at what was to come...even he was scared senseless and asked for help!

look for the light...for the positive ...the other end of the spectrum that always, always exists for everything, everyone and everywhere. 

We do all have our own growth path and we do have our own challenges...the more we grow the harder the path gets.  Even if there is damage from drugs...that's how you elected to set up the test so you can work hard through it focusing and using will...to achieve whatever you wanted from the sheer energy needed to use to win through....it's all part of the challenge, part of the learning. 

Don't look at how you got to where you are...you had to work really hard to set it up....it's not important how you got there....you had to get there....you had to set up the circumstances so you can learn the lesson.  So past slights and hurts were necessary to get where you are now. it's your life purpose.....just look at where you are going and how to get there. 

How to get out of this slime pit is what you were born to learn. 

Forgive everyone, they only helped you set up the lesson...forget everything past...it was only needed to help you get to the start line.  And it took so long!  Now you are ready...let the lesson begin.  Work to get out.

Quantum existence says whatever you focus on with enough attention....will become reality.  The more intense...the faster.  So attention and intention.

There is no room for dissipating your attention with negative escapism.  What a waste of so many years setting up the test...for you to take the first exit.  It's your growth so nobody can stop you....but what a waste when you now have full knowledge to act as support helping you push forward.  Next time you may not have this....so double blind facing this huge mountain to climb. 

Phildan I hold you in awe!  You self corrected myopia?  With eye exercises?  How long did it take?  I have never heard anyone saying they worked so I am interested.  My eyes are changing ...old age though ...so this is the interest.  Quantum world...might still be possible......so let me know what worked!


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« Reply #71 on: August 27, 2017, 11:02:46 »

Lots will change in the next 10 years plasma, keep working hard.
Take it one day at a time. If today is a bad day maybe tomorrow will be better.
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« Reply #72 on: August 27, 2017, 16:59:48 »

Here's to the rest of your life Plasma. Regardless of your situation there is always something to explore and something to learn. Become the explorer. smiley
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« Reply #73 on: August 27, 2017, 20:48:42 »

Dude that is a lot of stuff to read. I'll do what I can. I'm skeptical of alternative therapies but I'll look into it and see if it's something that can work for me.  smiley

True, I put forward 4 separate concepts at once, I take them with a grain of salt and sample to find what works for me in reality, but the Wim Hof Method is where I would put the most stock and where I have the most personal experience to confirm the benefits. It's good to be skeptical. WHM has some interesting feats for healing though:

  • Cured frost bite in a toe, in 2 days, that medical professionals said would need to be amputated.
  • Cured auto immune conditions like multiple sclerosis and parkinsons in many individuals within months.
  • A women with boiling water burns on 6% of her skin healed to the degree that surgeons had never seen within 1 week.
  • A man had his arm broken by a horse kick and used the method to control the pain and heal in record time.

It reads like a mystic guru list for sure, however it is quite practical and logical, the science behind how this works has been confirmed in controlled studies in Holland. The 40 odd world records achieved with the method sort of prove there is something new going on there. The method has a physical component and an energy / emotional healing component. I would just try the 10 minute video once and see if you feel better physically, if not, let it go.

Good luck with the quest for healing, whatever you find.
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« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2017, 15:07:49 »

I dont know if this was brought up as this is a long post and I did not read the other posts .   Besides moral and karmic problems there are legal ones .   People have been made to account for stuff they posted over the net .  i.p. addresses can be tracked .   There is no way I would tell some one to harm or kill them selvs .  Now if some one were in very poor health and took there own life , I would understand .  

p.s.   There are some creative visualition/l.o.a. methods.  Ever watch the secret ?   
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