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« on: February 08, 2010, 18:19:41 » |
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My parents hate when I astral project. They think I should be more like my sisters (who are interested in partying and drinking etc) and stop "living in a dream world". Now, they have begun to try to wake me up early so that I am unable to project after sleeping and often won't let me practice during the day! They think it is all part of my imagination and that I'm having schizophrenic delusions.  I rarely tell them about my excursions but they will overhear me telling my boyfriend (who is just as interested in AP as I) about my adventures in the astral realm and they'll confront me afterward. I'm at a complete loss of what to do. I've offered to show them sites showing them that its completely normal but they refuse to look into it. Also, my grandparents think I'm doing something evil or something, and that its morally wrong to go to other dimensions and again, think this is part of my schizophrenia and that I need to have my doses doubled. *sigh*  Has anyone else encountered this lack of support and understanding?
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 18:30:14 » |
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Yeah just tell them your Napoleon and you can go in the nice white room next to Jesus and Hitler
there just afraid maybe you should just let them live in the dark ages and not relie on them to support your personal development, it is sad but that's life. probably best not to involve them if they cant do better than afraid, they will come around eventually but as long as they think its an illness it will be in there reality
Stand your ground but take more care when involving them Good Luck
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 18:43:06 » |
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Perhaps you should tell them that you are done with your 'paranoid delusions' but you still feel that you need to get help. Go see a therapist once a week and continue to practice astral projection and don't tell you're parents. 
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 19:11:53 » |
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Hard one... They reject looking at sites about AP.
Say that you have researched it and that its completely safe and until they provide a source saying it is not safe, you will continue. Since they don't even wanna look at sites like this they probably wont find anything. And if they do find something you can just say its more likely to die while driving a car then to get hurt by APing and that they should stop driving!
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 19:16:59 » |
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Perhaps you should tell them that you are done with your 'paranoid delusions' but you still feel that you need to get help. Go see a therapist once a week and continue to practice astral projection and don't tell your parents.  I think this is the best idea I've seen here. Also tell them not letting you sleep enough is going to make your schizophrenia worse, and discuss it with your therapist. He or she can tell them this, and maybe they'll let you 'nap'. And watch what you tell your bf in front of them.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 19:34:18 » |
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My parents hate when I astral project. They think I should be more like my sisters (who are interested in partying and drinking etc) and stop "living in a dream world". Now, they have begun to try to wake me up early so that I am unable to project after sleeping and often won't let me practice during the day! They think it is all part of my imagination and that I'm having schizophrenic delusions.  I rarely tell them about my excursions but they will overhear me telling my boyfriend (who is just as interested in AP as I) about my adventures in the astral realm and they'll confront me afterward. I'm at a complete loss of what to do. I've offered to show them sites showing them that its completely normal but they refuse to look into it. Also, my grandparents think I'm doing something evil or something, and that its morally wrong to go to other dimensions and again, think this is part of my schizophrenia and that I need to have my doses doubled. *sigh*  Has anyone else encountered this lack of support and understanding? I remember back in the day when I was living with my parents... my mother and I were talking about more esoteric subjects, when I mentioned some of the stuff I study. I remember her using words such as "brainwashing"... and "don't waste your time". LOL I gave her the books of Robert Munroe to read. I was quite pleased that she was able to at least get through the first two books, but she, sadly, refused to read the last one because it was so outlandish (I kinda agree with her there LoL). But, she's slowly started to come around... once in a while when I visit my parents, we'll break into a talk about that stuff and I'll poise some interesting questions which I know she can't answer and only serve to make her think. She's slowly coming around. LoL In any case, if your parents are that 'hard ass' against you, you've only got two options. Either they can respect your wishes to learn what you want... or you can respect their wishes and learn what they want you to learn. I'll tell you this... if/when you move out on your own, I've found that I have *LESS* time to learn what I want to learn because of keeping up with housework/life. LOL
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 20:26:32 » |
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Has anyone else encountered this lack of support and understanding? Other than this forum, I've been a loner at this since day one. And before this forum, all I had were books. Parents are devout Christians, so that's a no-go - my relationship with them is more important to me than them thinking I'm going to hell. So personally, I don't see anything wrong with keeping it to yourself. I used to feel like I was holding something in, but that feeling's long gone. I realize I only have to talk about it with people that are genuinely interested, not people who will dismiss it. Like others said, tell your boyfriend only when you're sure no one else is around.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 22:16:47 » |
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Tell them you decided to take their advice. Then walk down the street with a handle of rum, and when the cops ask you who gave it to you, tell them your parents did.
Seriously though, therapy is the best option. Your parents sound like they need to hear everything from professionals, so let your therapist do the explaining.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 11:07:40 » |
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Its funny cuz my folks wont mind but I wont get any support. I tried telling them but they also think I might be imagining things. And not only my parents but my friends or anybody else I mention AP to. The problem is where I come from I think. Im from Namibia in Africa and people here are very traditional and not very open minded when it comes to things that seem strange to them. Here people are very much in their comfort zone and are not prepared to step out of it. Its difficult to get motivated because its hard to speak to people at face value. People here are into their religions and I never saw myself as a religous type and dismissed it from an early age. Its a shame cuz I want to talk about this alot especially over coffee or a brewsky but all my friends like to talk about is gossip. And I hate gossip lol. Anyway Im stoked there are sites like these that allow me to express my opinions. I just wish I could get online more lol.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2010, 12:26:55 » |
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Has anyone else encountered this lack of support and understanding? I am telling no one of my family about my astral travelling. Since I became interested in spirituality when I was about 15, I have been told by my parents (and brothers) that all of that was nonsense. God was nonsense, spirits were nonsense and reïncarnation, all of it. So I learned to keep it all to myself. At the moment my parents don't think that way anymore, because they both passed over to the other dimension and both have been giving me signs that they are there and they're alright! 
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 14:19:42 » |
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I think, personally, sneaking around is not healthly between you and your family and mentally for anyone! I dont want to say too much as I have an intense hatred of people pushing their own opinions on their children. If they refuse to learn about the subject there is nothing you can do. It sounds more like a fear that was pushed onto them at an early age rather then simply the fear of the unknown. Talking to your therapist sounds a good option. Esp with regard to them waking you up AND the fact they dont respect you fully to let you have your own opinions and to give you some ounce of freedom. Though - they could generally think its all apart of your condition and are not aware that it is separate of the condition. Rather then being fearful of AP - they are simply worried for you 
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2010, 00:05:33 » |
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I find it funny that something like ap that gives proof and evidence is considered wrong, yet religious people expect you to believe the thing they believe. There's no way your gonna be right against there correct statement. So believe what they believe even though there's no evidence. Apparently to religious people there's a ton of evidence. They usually can't give examples, They tell you to look into it. (Just don't do the most effective stuff cause that's bad), They have a personal relationship with a miraculous god and relationships with miraculous people. Everyone elses miracles are crazy, evil, lies. To a fundamentalist, miraculous events outside there religion, somehow is more evidence in favor of there own beliefs.
Yea Ive met those kinds of people, There really stupid.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2010, 14:45:55 » |
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I find it funny that something like ap that gives proof and evidence is considered wrong, yet religious people expect you to believe the thing they believe. There's no way your gonna be right against there correct statement. So believe what they believe even though there's no evidence. Apparently to religious people there's a ton of evidence. They usually can't give examples, They tell you to look into it. (Just don't do the most effective stuff cause that's bad), They have a personal relationship with a miraculous god and relationships with miraculous people. Everyone elses miracles are crazy, evil, lies. To a fundamentalist, miraculous events outside there religion, somehow is more evidence in favor of there own beliefs.
Yea Ive met those kinds of people, There really stupid. And on top of that... most religious books have snippets in them where they allude to stuff like Astral Projection and OBE's, yet the people who supposedly "study" these books kinda ignore these passages.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2010, 00:06:31 » |
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98% of the population are not ready to hear about this stuff, it freaks people out.
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2010, 00:18:35 » |
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If they are Christians, maybe you can tell them you are visiting God when you do it. The danger in that would be if they go around telling people their beloved daugther is some kind of saint or visionary.
How old are you? Is moving out an option?
They sound very rigid. If it was me, I would really pose a question to them about the validity and realness of the world they live in. Like " And how can you be sure of the realness of your reality?". Maybe it is a little to harsh.
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