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« on: January 07, 2020, 20:48:44 »

A couple of nights ago I received my first lesson on NVC during an LD.  I was speaking with a Dream character and was having trouble hearing him.  He put his fingers in both of my ears and demonstrated by tuning in and out of different frequencies like tuning into different radio stations.  Hopefully I will remember to practice this next time. 

Does this come naturally to everyone when you are communicating with others in LD’s / AP’s or do you mentally and consciously have to tune into others each time you are interacting?
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2020, 04:16:57 »

insert  'it differs from person to person' response.

That happens with myself. Knowing what it is i'm going to say without thinking it to myself all the way through.

IMO it's probably going to become more natural. Id say just have the intent you want to experience that, perhaps you might have to kick start it (conciouslly 'start' it) and then the flow comes to you and you simply just ride it.  Thinking how to do it and such would probably be ineffective and consciously doing things usually involves that with most humans - hence why i beleive it will become easy to do.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2020, 05:07:00 »

I've been curious about this too T. Sometimes nvc comes so naturally it's not even noticeable but at other times I feel like I'm on the wrong frequency. I have learned that we can 'click' or tune in but it also doesn't always work (for me anyway).

When I think about it though it seems I don't have this issue when I am communicating with beings with a higher frequency and that may be due to their abilities. With lower beings it happens more often and that could be my sluggish or inability to which frequencies. Good question.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2020, 07:17:43 »

Great topic T-Man!

I have been reluctant to bring this topic up because I am still in the 'figuring it out' stage, but with your description, I think I am confirming my own pattern of development and maybe a fairly common course of development that may exist for many of us: The 'curriculum' as I have speculated before...

About 12 years ago, as I resumed my NP experimentation, my NP/dream characters soon became difficult to communicate with: their words often became unintelligible and my own responses started coming out like barely-verbalized gibberish. Maybe the 'system' somehow allows for what seems like normal, verbal communication for awhile, but at some point in our development the 'system' pushes us to learn a new way, NVC. This problem persisted for several experiences until I had my 2011 Fieldtrip experience, which opened my awareness in several incredible directions, the first being my education in the understanding of NVC and telepathic communication; and it has continued since then. This appears to me now, to be a natural phase that we move through.

Years later, I can look back and now see the progression; and this is being confirmed by experiences such as T-Man, Karxx  and Nameless are describing.

As you are learning it, it is a combination of, at times directly thinking about just how to do it, while other times it happens quite naturally and intuitively...so I would say to just be open to either requirement or possibility. The ability seems to develop very progressively, so it is one to be 'allowed'...and it will develop quite naturally. For me, it has been a huge milestone and a real pleasure to watch as it develops. This seems to be a point where the overall NP learning picks up speed! T-Man, your recognition of the fact is a great sign of the progress being made. You will be challenged to put this ability to use in future experiences! Enjoy what is coming down the road!

I think Nameless is right: More highly-developed beings can 'read' us and our thoughts, so our suspicion that our nvc was less than complete is actually a good recognition of where we need to sharpen our skills; sometimes they make it easy and complete our thoughts for us and other times they sit back and watch us sweat in our own desperate inability...but this is how we learn.

For me, NVC is another example of utilizing Intent. Receiving a telepathic message or a bigger, more complex thing like a ROTE is maybe a more natural function. For me, it was like receiving a text or an email or a pdf.file… the download or translation was automatic and instantaneous; maybe it seems easier because the communication was designed for us. But there could be gaps in the translation and they appeared like ______...there is not a word that fully describes it, you just sense the ______.

Forming the message you wish to send seems to require a little more work such as applying Intent, and the message is a kind of gestalt of words, emotion and Intent...like a comic strip thought balloon, but with some 'feel' added that helps magnify the message or convey the emotion of it. Then with a little Intent, you push it outward towards the recipient and feel for a response. You know when you are with an advanced being when, while you are 'pushing' out the message, you realize that they have already 'read' your thoughts/message and sent a response, lol. You then realize that you are additionally learning of just how fast these transactions can occur...

Good conversation!



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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2020, 08:28:16 »

Thanks for the replies Karxx Gxx, Nameless and EV. 

I have had other LD’s where I have had difficulty hearing/understanding and have failed to understand why but now things are starting to fall into place.  EV…I Like your concept of the ‘curriculum’ and that we must all follow and develop our skills thru this progression. 

Maybe the 'system' somehow allows for what seems like normal, verbal communication for awhile, but at some point in our development the 'system' pushes us to learn a new way, NVC.
I feel that this reflects me perfectly but now I must learn to adapt in order to progress.  I do recall in a past post of mine where the suggestion was for me to try NVC instead of all the questions I used to ask in LD's.  I guess that comment didn't stick as things back than were so new and overwhelming to me when I was first starting to have the NP experiences!

I look forward to the challenges in future experiences and I suspect that I will have to consciously kick-start it as Karxx Gxx suggests but hopefully things will become more natural and intuitive without having to think about it. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2020, 08:34:40 »

It can get overwhelming T. I know sometimes I go back over some of our early posts and it's like a lightbulb goes off that didn't even register the first time. EV has an excellent way of explaining things and drawing out the questions we should ask ourselves, I learn a lot from him. So onward and upward or as I like to say two steps forward, one back. smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2020, 18:42:44 »

Hi All,
This is where you stop scratching your heads and simply reflect on past experiences. There will have been a few experiences with you not actually talking. In these you just know what the message is in an instant and its 100% accurate. This is telepathy and its the norm for communicating in some areas of conscious exploration.
Each non verbal experience is a lesson in which you'll start to recognise a 'feel' to everything. This is who or whatever you are in connection with signature. Simply it's a radio station for that one channel of communication.
You will soon enough if not already have been told to get an object from somewhere and bring it to a place requested. You feel the object from the explanation and know exactly what it is.
An example, 'get me my clock' is asked by an NP entity.
You know its in the store with hundreds of others but a kind of instinct kicks in and you know you've picked the right one. It's that easy in the NP you don't realise it. The same job in the physical would require an explanation of details and maybe a receipt.
THIS tuning once perfected can be used in the physical to a greatly reduced effect but you can gain info from people thousands of miles away without ever physically meeting them. You feel their character and tune in on this.
Ev and nameless will agree, strangely lol.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2020, 09:42:31 »

 Congratulations T-Man and Nameless!  smiley

 You are being shown the rewards for your efforts. Both you and Nameless (due to her new post on another recent thread here) have received a "Level up" in this never ending game we call "Otherwhere"!  cool

 As usual you have received some great posts by some of our most experienced NP "travelers" here!  smiley

 What I have seen through much observation there is that the NPR seems to work towards "de-humanizing" us. It seems to want to rewire us in a way that "is" over there. We seem to learn things that help us realize and be able to maintain the state of "being". Learning how to adjust the dial to the proper frequency is just one of many things that systematically seem to be taught to us there.

 When I have become lucid in my sleep and see that I am in a full blown scenario, I don't notice anyone's mouth moving at all when communication is occurring. Years ago, I too had the "NVC awakening". Since then, I don't "look" for where voices or sounds are coming from. It just gets overlooked now. You will find many lessons there and just like this, after awhile they will become second nature to you as well.

 I stated above that the NPR seems towards ridding us of our Human mindset, yet I have found times that our Humanity is just what's needed for the job. Case in point, I became aware a few years ago that I was finally inside of the White Cathedral building that I came to via Retrievals. I hadn't been allowed in it in the past. My Retrieval experiences ended up at the doorway, in this case the bottom of the stairs leading to the main foyer, but that's as far as I could go. I wasn't told that. It seemed to be something I knew.
 When I finally got in, I saw many different rooms that seemed to work like "simulation chambers", where the some of the worst case Retrievees could be found. I then witnessed the way that the Aides there worked. It seemed to be more of a mechanical approach. The Aides seemed to be devoid of feeling and more important "empathy". Because I was of a "Human" mindset, I seemed to have a bit of a advantage with some of the cases there. I haven't been aware of any actual Retrievals since that time, but every morning I become consciously aware in some kind "hero scenario".
 I had a weird experience a few nights ago where I became aware that I was with a group of people, that I didn't know, in a place I have never been to. Once I had observed enough and got my bearings, I saw that one of the guys in our group was of a science mind and he was debunking everything that anyone said about "non ordinary of consciousness". The other people in the group then tried to prod me into showing him how wrong he was. They knew I was a "visitor" to that scenario and that "I" didn't have to follow their physical ruleset. I found it hard to stay conscious through the entire thing, but I knew that I didn't want to scare the bejeebus out of this guy and totally destroy his "reality". How it ended, I don't have a clue! All I know is that when I had a conscious choice, I chose not to put this guy through "shock and awe".

 You have hit a "milestone". But like I said, that too will become second nature and will open you up for your next milestone!  smiley

 Many of the things we experience NPR/Otherwheres tend to work towards making us good "Observers". Being a good Observer is a good trait here in the physical as well. There are times here that that dehumanizing that we get over there comes in handy here as well. Sometimes it's good to drop our human mindset to see solutions to things that plague us here in this physical reality in a whole different "light".  
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2020, 04:40:10 »

It never fails to amaze me at all the excellent responses that get posted here on the Pulse!  There is so much Wisdom, Experience, Perspective and Insight from the members here.  I hope this forum will still be here 10 years from now!  I have learned so much from members responses here not only from my own threads but from reading all the others. 

I can’t imagine being a pioneer in this field and having to learn and fumble thru all on your own.  It’s great to learn things on your own but it’s also great knowing that help is only a ‘post’ away.

Thanks to all the effort everyone puts into their replies! 
Cheers!  smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2020, 05:20:07 »

It never fails to amaze me at all the excellent responses that get posted here on the Pulse!  There is so much Wisdom, Experience, Perspective and Insight from the members here.  I hope this forum will still be here 10 years from now!  I have learned so much from members responses here not only from my own threads but from reading all the others.  

I can’t imagine being a pioneer in this field and having to learn and fumble thru all on your own.  It’s great to learn things on your own but it’s also great knowing that help is only a ‘post’ away.

Thanks to all the effort everyone puts into their replies!  
Cheers!  smiley
I definitely agree! Well said T-Man!  smiley cool
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2020, 22:55:53 »

It didn’t take long to try out my nvc again in an LD.  I became lucid and was trying to remember what I needed to practice.  It was just at the edge of my awareness so I asked for a guide to show up.  A woman appeared and introduced herself and started talking to me.  I was unable to hear her and everything was muffled.  ‘Oh Yeah’ I thought…it was nvc that I needed to practice.  I put my hands to the sides of my head and touched my fingers to my temples and was trying to focus in on her.  I still wasn’t getting anything so she pulled out a hand held device and adjusted the frequency and than I could hear her voice inside my head very sharply.  I thought out to her ’Thank you’.  I don’t know if that worked or not but I was than thinking I should ask her what her name was again since I missed that at the beginning.  There was a man next to me now and he asked her what I was thinking.  It seemed to me he was my interpreter.  She introduced herself again.  Shortly after I started loosing my awareness and ended up waking up.

I feel that I will still need to practice the nvc for receiving and sending thoughts (hence…the interpreter).
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2020, 23:30:24 »

Curious if you remember her name now. That was a great positive T, always wonderful to have a guide step right up and assist. smiley
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2020, 01:58:19 »

Thanks Nameless,

Yes, she introduced herself as 'Noke' and the man was 'Tyrone'.  I'm sure I will get plenty of opportunities to practice the nvc!  smiley
Hope it doesn't take me too long to catch on!
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2020, 02:22:26 »

  I'm sure I will get plenty of opportunities to practice the nvc!  smiley
Hope it doesn't take me too long to catch on!
It sounds like you are coming along quite nicely with that as it is!  cool Kudos awarded for that my friend!  smiley
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