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« on: November 05, 2016, 11:21:38 »

Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

If this life is projection of my mind and everything is consciousness and perception creates out reality , does it mean that there is actually no objective opinion? or the fact that i think that there is no objective opinion is just my subjective opinion and if it's so it can actually be objective Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2016, 19:27:23 »

Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
Oh how we would love to believe that there exists a person who is truly objective. I doubt there is such a person. Only Strong AI could be truly objective. But it is true that some people are more objective than others.

Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
Right sounds correct.

If this life is projection of my mind and everything is consciousness and perception creates out reality , does it mean that there is actually no objective opinion?
When you say mind here I think it's important to point out that it's not mind as in our individual mind but the collective mind of the universe. As far as objective opinions. Some would argue that our opinions can't be objective if they are opinions. If we look at the definition of opinion we get "a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge." So you see here that opinions may or may not be based on fact or objective knowledge. So in that regard opinions aren't a reliable source of objective knowledge. Now does that mean that opinions can't be based off of objective knowledge? No it can be, same with beliefs which may or may not be based off of objective knowledge. And I would argue there is no sure fire proof way to know the absolute objective truth. We can only really go off of probability most of the time. For instance recently there was a discovery that we could create new compounds that challenge the the foundations of chemistry.

New salt compounds challenge the foundation of chemistry
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131219142138.htm

I am sure there will be other new discoveries that will shake up the scientific community in what we really understand about how the world works. You have to remember that getting objective truth in material sciences should be one of the easiest things to do yet we are still discovering new things we didn't know earlier.

Again so when it comes down to it it's very hard to get a truly objective opinion that fully explains things. But what we can do is increase our objectivity in opinion by basing our beliefs and opinions off of personal objective experience, and science as much as we can.

or the fact that i think that there is no objective opinion is just my subjective opinion and if it's so it can actually be objective Cheesy
OK that doesn't really make sense.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 08:02:05 »

Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

If this life is projection of my mind and everything is consciousness and perception creates out reality , does it mean that there is actually no objective opinion? or the fact that i think that there is no objective opinion is just my subjective opinion and if it's so it can actually be objective Cheesy
It means that the only thing that REALLY matters is your INTENT.  That's the only thing that moves along and stays with the *you* forever.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2016, 02:26:51 »

Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

If this life is projection of my mind and everything is consciousness and perception creates out reality , does it mean that there is actually no objective opinion? or the fact that i think that there is no objective opinion is just my subjective opinion and if it's so it can actually be objective Cheesy

I would ask your to prove, or at least give some kind of warrant, that your "if" statement about life being a projection of mind is true, or even makes sense. If you can't prove that.

Secondly, I hate to be the guy that nitpicks, but it is indeed true that there are no objective opinions. By definition (a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge), an opinion cannot be objective. It is just a view or judgement, not an objective statement.

Objectivity is not just thinking something, or having an opinion about something. It is knowing something.

And ya I know some people aren't going to like that.
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