Ormus

[cavernstoy]

Ha, hey riddled_skies

I was thinking about this the other day...Ha

Be the first one to try it and let me know of your results!

My instincts tell me MJ has high amounts of ormus.

The only way to find out is to try it out

Cavernstoy

[cavernstoy]

Mez,

I'm sorry that you haven't found results.  I don't want to let you down, but maybe ormus is just one of those things that some people notice greatly, and others don't.  It really depends how "attuned" you are to your body.  I've been in this possition before.  And its hard to notice shifts in consciousness. 

It can be compared to when some people smoke MJ and don't notice any effects. 

Mabey you are looking for the wrong things. 

Take it for a week, and pay CLOSE attention to how you feel.

Stop for a week, and see if you notice any downgrade.

Are you happier when you take it?  There should be a definite boast in ability and quality of life.

Lets hope that you have more noticeable effects with ormus gold.

Good luck, and keep trying

Cavernstoy

[Mez]

i'd say the effects with pure white gold ormus would be what im looking for

[Stookie]

If ormus makes a tighter connection between mind and body, would it compound negative thoughts on the body?

If a person is in a "negative" place and wants to take ormus to make them more "spiritual", could it have the opposite effect and actually worsen their condition?

If the ORMUS elements are a medium of communication between mind and spirit they would bring us back the echo of whatever we are thinking about ourselves.

Found here: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/faq.htm#1.5

[Mez]

Yes, it certainly would. Ormus increases your manifesting power... I read an interesting anecdote about a guy who took too much pure white gold ormus and his manifesting power increased soo much it practically ruined his life for 6 months. If he was driving a car and he thought about having an accident a car would suddenly come out of nowhere and almost hit him.

I want me some of that!

[Principle]

Yes, it certainly would. Ormus increases your manifesting power... I read an interesting anecdote about a guy who took too much pure white gold ormus and his manifesting power increased soo much it practically ruined his life for 6 months. If he was driving a car and he thought about having an accident a car would suddenly come out of nowhere and almost hit him.

I want me some of that!

Hah, then you would need to keep negative thoughts completely out of your head for 6mos,
which is hard enough doing even for minutes at a time, negative thoughts are just random sometimes.

[cavernstoy]

Hah, then you would need to keep negative thoughts completely out of your head for 6mos,
which is hard enough doing even for minutes at a time, negative thoughts are just random sometimes.

Ormus makes all your spiritual "faults" come to your attention.  If you don't heal, you won't be completely comfortable. 

At first, all the negetivity, fear, and depression in my body became really obvious to me.  It was a powerfull tool, because it forced me to heal. 

Cavernstoy

[Stookie]

Then it's probably not for someone with a history of depression, anger, or other mental and emotional disorders. People who aren't happy with their spiritual life might want it to make them happier and in turn make their lives more tumultuous. There are no quick fixes. Tools maybe, but "fixing" you have to do on your own, as Cavernstoy mentioned.

[Mez]

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

That website has a treasure trove of information about various ormus products... also if you read the text under the headline "reasons for not taking m-state white gold in powder form" it tells you the anecdote i was talking about. I find this site to be very straightfoward and unbiased.

[cavernstoy]

Then it's probably not for someone with a history of depression, anger, or other mental and emotional disorders.

I have a history of depression, anger, and extreme anxiety.  Ormus let me see my problems from an external view point.  It allowed me to breath the concept "Why in the world do I do this to my self?"  The first logical statement I have ever thought concerning myself.

In the short term, ormus might FREAK you out by "blowing up" the perception of you problems.  In the long term: healing

If you don't want to heal, then don't take ormus!

[Stookie]

I used to have extreme anxiety myself, but I was able to overcome it without drugs. I'm talking about things like diagnosed bipolar disorder. For some people it's a cycle they've carried their whole life and it's not as simple as recognizing it. A person like that can't just say, "Oh, before I didn't get it, now I do" and it's over - it's a cycle.

Sounds like a risk for people like this. I'm not trying to knock the stuff, just give fair warning to people reading this thread. I'd hate for someone's life to enter turmoil because of an internet thread.

[cavernstoy]

If you are hiding away from reality and living in delusions, ormus will help you correct your perception.  So if something invisible is tearing you apart, a bright light will shine on the foreign invasion. 

Ormus will not make you more angry, anxious, or depressed.  It will allow you to locate problems that are leading to dysfunctional living; aka suffering.  The suffering that is flowing into you, spilling into those who surround you, and building up at full force to come back at you yet again.  It will help you break the current of the slimy downward spiral. 

Ormus may give you enough conscious energy to save yourself from being swallowed by Yourself.   

Awareness is a light.  Obliviousness is a disease.

You can fight your problems in darkness, or in light.  Your subconscious mind is your friend.  Ormus is a connection between you and them.

Cavernstoy

[cavernstoy]

Stookie, I don't want to make outrageous claims, but maybe ormus could heal someone with bipolar disorder.

Ormus is not like a drug.  Its not even like a herb.  It is a substance that is in every LIVING food.  Everytime you take a bight out of fruit or vegetables, you get some amount of ormus.  The reason this extraction is such a big deal is because ormus has declined over the past thousands of years.  (I think 10% or more of the world is made of ormus.)

You may only get 10% of the ormus that you need.  You can get 1000% of the ormus you need.

Cavernstoy