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« on: June 08, 2014, 00:31:55 »

I came across with this user in tumblr and just read an interesting article.
just wanna hear your comment/thoughts regarding this issue .

here are her tagged qoutes .
"Some feel that there is a multidimensional cause behind the sinister globalist agenda in the world (a.k.a. the New World Order). But it is possible not just to sense, but to actually know and uncover its root through firsthand experience. And, unless the root is uncovered, its octopus like tentacles will continue to regrow and find new ways to influence the world, even when several have been cut off….

Demons of antiquity have major roles and are still active today, thousands of years after they were first written about…

My husband and I have been shown out of the body how they work through dark secret societies, which channel covertly through a religion, and are communicating with a very small group of people here on earth who are going through the process of awakening in darkness. These disciples of darkness are using OBEs to get knowledge from ancient demons who themselves are beyond physical death and working with an immense evil intelligence on an agenda which is thousands of years old….

The world desperately needs people who can use OBEs to get knowledge about the inner workings and plans of evil, who meet the requirements to receive spiritual wisdom from higher beings, and have awakened spiritual/psychic faculties.”

here is the link of the article
http://belsebuub.com/the-inter-dimensional-entities-behind-the-dark-agenda-thats-taking-over-the-world
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2014, 01:46:53 »

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2014, 02:30:53 »

Unfortunately, the powerful don't need demons to give them marching orders in order to take over the world. Compound interest and fractional reserve banking alone are strong enough forces to own the world after a mere couple hundred years. Math and ignorance of the population at large are the only tools they require.

As much as I would like to go on a holy quest against the dread forces of doom, lol...

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2014, 06:04:31 »

As cool as Star Wars is, I know it's hard not to trust an article that refers to the movie's plot for most of it's content, but you can rest easy if we don't sign up to hold the front lines.

Besides, they said these demons have only been working on their nefarious plot for a few thousand years, that's nothing.  It takes dog crap longer to petrify than that. smiley
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2014, 12:23:14 »

Would you care to explain a bit more about what you mean Xanth?  cool
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2014, 12:39:12 »

I will hazard a guess Xanth more or less means what Astralzombie said, or some minor variant thereof.

Perhaps brevity is kindness here.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2014, 17:39:25 »

Would you care to explain a bit more about what you mean Xanth?  cool
Yes... it's full of... bull fecal matter?  Smiley

People like this tend to gloss over one very important concept of the non-physical.
What you see and experience IS NOT literal.

If you begin to take what you see literally, you're going to scare the ever loving crap out of yourself.

The current problems with humanity have NOTHING to do with anything even remotely connected to the non-physical. 
Our issues are entirely physical-based... and it comes down to Greed... not demons. 

And the world does NOT need more people going OBE.
The world needs more people who turn within towards Love.  The world needs more people changing themselves, moving away from greed and towards Love.

The worlds needs more Love.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 18:02:31 »

I came across with this user in tumblr and just read an interesting article.
just wanna hear your comment/thoughts regarding this issue .

here are her tagged qoutes .
"Some feel that there is a multidimensional cause behind the sinister globalist agenda in the world (a.k.a. the New World Order). But it is possible not just to sense, but to actually know and uncover its root through firsthand experience. And, unless the root is uncovered, its octopus like tentacles will continue to regrow and find new ways to influence the world, even when several have been cut offÖ.

Demons of antiquity have major roles and are still active today, thousands of years after they were first written aboutÖ

My husband and I have been shown out of the body how they work through dark secret societies, which channel covertly through a religion, and are communicating with a very small group of people here on earth who are going through the process of awakening in darkness. These disciples of darkness are using OBEs to get knowledge from ancient demons who themselves are beyond physical death and working with an immense evil intelligence on an agenda which is thousands of years oldÖ.

The world desperately needs people who can use OBEs to get knowledge about the inner workings and plans of evil, who meet the requirements to receive spiritual wisdom from higher beings, and have awakened spiritual/psychic faculties.Ē

here is the link of the article
http://belsebuub.com/the-inter-dimensional-entities-behind-the-dark-agenda-thats-taking-over-the-world

Very interesting article, I can and do astral project and obe, I to have seen those on the other side and have put a wrench in their activities as often as I can. There is more then what you see on this top layer I wish more people could see what I see for they would become angered as I have. Do not let people discourage you this is the dark ones speaking to push fear in us so we stop looking inward.   
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2014, 18:47:22 »

I could see "demons" being out there as much as highly evolved beings or helpers, I think it's a very logical consequence of polarities, and also "as above so below". Just as we have the powerless bitter old man that curses everybody in the neighborhood and tends to act violent when he drinks, you also have the powerful mafia head and his organization creating a lot of chaos in the world and the life of others as well as everything in between.

I don't know about all these conspiracy theories though, I could see a lot of use in them for excusing our often poor mindless behaviour and our lack of investment in growth and common well being. With humans caring so little for one another in all social groups I can't see the necessity for demons in order for us to be where we are. Even if they do have some influence, that I don't know...

I don't think we necessarly need more OBE's but I think we definitly need more awareness, awareness gradually brings new dimensions of our being into play. This often changes the way we perceive ourselves and others, and that's where the importance lies.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2014, 00:29:58 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp1F16_7lO0

Some critical, and detached thinking couldn't hurt either.

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2014, 14:06:49 »

I have to agree with Xanth on this. It reminds me of the 2012 raising your consciousness deal. Many of the new agers made it up and fell for it. They all said that in 2012 consciousness was going to increase and we were going to enter the 5th dimension and our DNA would be ungraded. LOL Yeah I actually believed it at first but as I thought about it and gained a better understanding of true spirituality I realized it was all a bunch of BS most likely. And so on 2012 I wasn't surprised that we didn't end up in the 5th dimension or consciousness increasing. I believe in practical spirituality. And I have learned how to discern this.

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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2014, 18:48:12 »

Thankyou guys for all of your comments  smiley

I definitely agree with Xanth the world needs more love  smiley
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2014, 14:20:04 »

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LOL Yeah I actually believed it at first but as I thought about it and gained a better understanding of true spirituality I realized it was all a bunch of BS most likely. And so on 2012 I wasn't surprised that we didn't end up in the 5th dimension or consciousness increasing. I believe in practical spirituality. And I have learned how to discern this.

Not to mention... what is the point of this world being here... if it is just going to end up in the 5th dimension with eveything else up there...

The 5th dimension has gotta' be crowded- word on the street is earth is the true hipster place to be right now.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2014, 15:59:56 »

Whatever "5th dimension" even means...
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2014, 06:18:48 »

With some thought I can come up with some ideas , write some books , give lecters , make movies, post ideas on web sites  .  Rake in thoes bucks($$$) .  (lol)
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Not to mention... what is the point of this world being here... if it is just going to end up in the 5th dimension with eveything else up there...

The 5th dimension has gotta' be crowded- word on the street is earth is the true hipster place to be right now.
  Everyday I see so many things that just make me think "Really, Humanity wants to go this way".   sad

 We are so much better than that. I wonder when we are going to grow up and finally start acting like we are. With the fact that ethics and morals seem to be left behind, I can see it's going to be a long time before we do "wake up".

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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2014, 14:45:31 »

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Everyday I see so many things that just make me think "Really, Humanity wants to go this way".   sad

 We are so much better than that. I wonder when we are going to grow up and finally start acting like we are. With the fact that ethics and morals seem to be left behind, I can see it's going to be a long time before we do "wake up".

If you neither want to be here, nor want not to be here, I think you find great peace that lies in the middle ground, in experiencing the ecstasy of existence for its own sake in moments that have no reliance on past or future.

Every now and then I wonder if it is really possible to change this world in a profound way... maybe we are here in this world now because we have affinity to it, as it in suits our development... and once we are developed enough to make a difference, we have already distanced ourselves from belonging here.

My own theory though, from what I have seen and what I reason is that we are here to learn and gather experience by playing roles. You could be the hero, or the foil, or the hero's mother, or maybe the baker who makes bread for the hero, or you are the guy the hero beat up in school before he decided to be heroic, or maybe you are a snail and you love sucking on dirt for sucking on dirt's sake.

Perhaps what we are here reflects our own state of development, but I think probably not. I think it is more like sometimes you want to be the snail, to see what that game is like.

Ethics is damn important, and I truly wish people would live with consideration for what their lives and actions cost other beings in suffering... but I have a feeling it all sorts itself out at the end of the day, when the game is over.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2014, 18:01:03 »

My point was that some people are making lots of money selling this kind of stuff . 
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2014, 21:15:49 »

My point was that some people are making lots of money selling this kind of stuff . 
Not really.  There just aren't enough people out there looking for this stuff. 
There might SEEM to be a lot, but that's because we're on this forum where that's all we see.

But, the really isn't the niche "out there".

People like William Buhlman have to advertise themselves 24/7 in order to make a career out of it.

So the perception is much different than the reality of it.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2014, 02:43:28 »

There are also "times" for it. Social movements and superstitions create an artificial season for it. The Beatnik counter-culture of the 50's created a short burst of sincere interest in eastern thought. The LSD craze and anti-war counter culture in general generated a superficial interest in metaphysics. We had a huge range of fake channelers spring up over people's fears of something magic happening at the turn of the millenium, and I think everyone well remembers the 2012 fiasco. There is interest out there, but at times like those, it is the worst possible kind.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2014, 07:04:41 »

There are also "times" for it. Social movements and superstitions create an artificial season for it. The Beatnik counter-culture of the 50's created a short burst of sincere interest in eastern thought. The LSD craze and anti-war counter culture in general generated a superficial interest in metaphysics. We had a huge range of fake channelers spring up over people's fears of something magic happening at the turn of the millenium, and I think everyone well remembers the 2012 fiasco. There is interest out there, but at times like those, it is the worst possible kind.

Unfortunately the masses want something big and undeniable to happen before they think about exploring and giving these things significant importance in their lives. Even more unfortunate is the fact that for most of us it always has to happen in reverse, first you build up your skills and then after some time you can start experiencing something significant. Even then... it's mostly subjective, that's why we have people sincerely and empiracally stand by these conspiracy spiritual warfare theories while someone else is having their own experiences and describing samsara or maya as a cycle of delusion and attachment and others yet go on about evolution in a dozen different ways. Not to forget and mention the perspective you mentioned Stillwater, that it is simply an experience of consciousness.

All in all I'm starting to get convinced that really there's not much a reality out there we humans can grasp, there's only experiences. This by itself has the potential for a thousand worlds but... reality? I don't know.

Edit: If anyone wonders, this was a late night existential rant.  grin
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2014, 01:35:12 »

All in all I'm starting to get convinced that really there's not much a reality out there we humans can grasp, there's only experiences. This by itself has the potential for a thousand worlds but... reality? I don't know.

To answer your question I would say yes and no. Yes we can grasp things that are out there. Science and technology has brought violence down to all time low levels. Unfortunately there is no guarantee that it will stay that way.

Steven Pinker: The surprising decline in violence
https://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence

So obviously there is things to grasp out there. The best and most fastest growing fields that show no signs of letting up in growth are the fields of science. But as for the things you might be referring to as "grasping things that are out there." Well the 5 dimensions don't count. Though oddly astral projection might seem to fall under the same umbrella of quackery. So how do we discern. First and foremost you go by.... well I don't want to get into all this unless you want me too. If you interested let me know.

But let me finish answering your question by saying I think in a perfect world we need to alternate between experiential experience of conscious awareness and grasping and learning what is out there is the world. Since it's the synergy of these two polar opposites that create the best pace for growth. Science is the fastest path right now but true spiritual growth would have to be the most satisfying.

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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2014, 02:25:08 »

Science and technology has brought violence down to all time low levels. (...) Steven Pinker: The surprising decline in violence
https://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_on_the_myth_of_violence
I remember this book being 'promoted' in the Western media a few years ago and already wondered then what kind of disinformation propaganda piece it might be and who's behind it. I don't know who's behind it, but I still believe it is a piece of propaganda BS. Calling the "post-war" era a "long peace" alone is already very cynical ... and wrong.

Here is a (longer) article as an objection to it, it is worth the read - if only for contrast:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/reality-denial-apologetics-for-western-imperial-violence/32066

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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2014, 03:11:41 »

Steven Pinker indeed uses flawed reasoning at times, and it is true that the west still launches wars of exploitation where it is profitable; but if you compare the last 40 years to the 40 before it, there is no comparison. The last 40 had Persian gulf Hijinx parts 1-5, Bosnia, Kosovo, Grenada, a few major Israeli aggressions, Iraq vs Iran, some paramilitary actions in South America and Africa, and a few other major conflicts. Death toll probably totals 10-15 million between the lot of them. 40 before that... Vietnam, Korean war, mad Soviet expansion, Maozedong's Peoples' revolution in China, Stalin's ethnic exterminations, Eastern European ethnic cleansing in general, and World War 2. Death toll between all of those probably comes in at 150-200 million. Stalin and Mao easily killed more people than died during all of World War 2 alone.

Now compared to that time in history, anything else pales. Without a doubt we are living in a far less violent time than that. But I agree with you that we haven't come that much further socially. I think it is more a matter of military wars being less profitable for many parties than economic war of late.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2014, 03:52:05 »

Now compared to that time in history, anything else pales. Without a doubt we are living in a far less violent time than that. But I agree with you that we haven't come that much further socially. I think it is more a matter of military wars being less profitable for many parties than economic war of late.

I agree in part. Of course the 2 WWs were a giant overkill worldwide. But it also seems to me that he wants to make the usual 'evolutionist' statement because he also overlooks that there was a time before WW1 and 2 and some periods were (in some areas and/or world-wide) even more peaceful. I remember reading about a very peaceful area in Europe  a while ago but forgot what exactly it referred to. I also remember reading a book about a prehistoric time where archeologists found no traces of violence at all in Europe over centuries (!!) with tribes that made a lot of pottery but most is not known about them today, there was almost no conflict. And then of course we have myths and legends about a "Golden Age" maybe eons ago. It's just that this evoluitionist thinking is so flawed imv. There is some achievements, yes, compared to some times when people were even more trigger-happy it seemed. But it is not linear.

The nuclear stalemate of post-WW2 might have played a part that we have no WW3 (so far?) and thus the giant overkill - but that does not mean that people and societies are 'less violent' in their behaviour or mentality. I wish it was this way and we would realyl be in a kind of new age consciousness shift, but this is what Pinker in his creative number massaging does not refer to, he makes the evolutionist argument with more materialist outlook, but there's much to object to (as the article shows). Plus, there are so many wars, mass murder and slaughtery all over the world which we do not even find out about because it is NOT covered, e.g. in the "3rd World", maybe it was alwyas this way, but someone who says that we live in more peaceful times because of some manipulative body-counts might still be very wrong (and cynical...).
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