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Author Topic: The US Presidential Elections.  (Read 22905 times)
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« Reply #100 on: November 10, 2004, 15:22:31 »

Well I don't drive much anymore because I'm currently living in the city, so someone else should really tell you what they're paying, but last I remember actually looking at the price at one of the stations in the city it was about 2.10 per gallon.

I believe it would be about US $0.55 and a half in litres, but I'm not positive about that conversion.

But like I said, someone else would be more informed.
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« Reply #101 on: November 10, 2004, 16:46:43 »

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As for the oil thing -- where is it? We don't have it as my last visit to the gas pump proved. We do not have to invade any country to get oil. We just have to be willing to buy it at whatever they decide to charge. So the oil argument doesn't hold up.

But it does.  The USA is starving for more oil.  When Saddam was in power, he refused to sell oil to the USA.  Now that he is out of the picture, US companies are happily pumping.  But of course, because of the outdated infrastructure and the pipelines being bombed every other week, it's not as much as they would have liked.
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We rarely hear about the schools being built, the hospitals being rebuilt, the utitilities being rebuilt after decades of neglect

Ahem... let's rephrase that to: "We rarely hear about the schools/hospitals being rebuilt (by US private companies) after the US bombed them to pieces."

And, for fun, some more on the voting "bugs"...
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm
http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000715.html
http://www.michigancityin.com/articles/2004/11/04/news/news02.txt
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BROWVOTE_1105.html
http://www.ansiblegroup.org/furtherleft/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=51
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0301/S00166.htm

But I agree that the Bush or Kerry problem is not the main problem...  The real problem is that the US elections system is a (bad) joke.  "Black-box" voting, full of bugs (weirdly always in favor of the Republicans), foreign election observers were denied access to the voting centers, no paper trails.  What good is democracy without fair elections?  It's no more elections; it looks like some kind of war, with groups clashing with each other, people raiding centers at night to rip off their boards/signs, people spreading FUD to scare them not to vote...

Even if your party won, it should not (I hope) stop you from asking for fair elections...
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