another question about 3D blackness

[thenoob]

Through this dark time in my life, I have been unable to reach 3D blackness for about 2-3 months straight. The skill has totally left me it seemed. Then the past couple nights, at around 2:30 AM, I close my eyes and I instantly know I'm going to be able to get into this 3D black state.

Well last night I let it take me farther than it ever has. After a while I got to the point where I could feel myself spinning very fast. Occasionally I would touch my forehead and I could feel the muscles in that area straining and 'pulsing' almost. Same with my eyes. So my question is, since I seem to know the variables that must be manipulated to reach this state (around 2 AM or so, and usually having worked an active day), and gotten to the point of 'spinning' what should I do next? Should I just let it take me farther and farther each time I do it? Should I stop trying to have an earthly reference and saying things to myself or touching my forehead and concentrate solely on this expanding sensation? Plz help.

[Tayesin]

Hi,
it's a bit weird, but, I found similar sorts of difficulties when I began back in the 70's. While we can control our breath and actions to bring us to the verge of going astral, we must also recognise that at a point we need to give up having the control and allow the experience to expand into reality for us. So yes, just go with it and let it happen.

Love Always.
Tay

[Awakened_Mind]

Let it take you. You will not be harmed. Once you overcome your fear of it you can focus on an aspect of AP that is of much more benefit, AWARENESS.

When you spin be aware of the spinning, when you fall be aware of the falling etc. Do not be excited or afraid, be aware.

-AM

[clandestino]

Through this dark time in my life, I have been unable to reach 3D blackness for about 2-3 months straight. The skill has totally left me it seemed. Then the past couple nights, at around 2:30 AM, I close my eyes and I instantly know I'm going to be able to get into this 3D black state.

Well last night I let it take me farther than it ever has. After a while I got to the point where I could feel myself spinning very fast. Occasionally I would touch my forehead and I could feel the muscles in that area straining and 'pulsing' almost. Same with my eyes. So my question is, since I seem to know the variables that must be manipulated to reach this state (around 2 AM or so, and usually having worked an active day), and gotten to the point of 'spinning' what should I do next? Should I just let it take me farther and farther each time I do it? Should I stop trying to have an earthly reference and saying things to myself or touching my forehead and concentrate solely on this expanding sensation? Plz help.

Hi there thenoob, as per the advice you've already been given, you should "go with the flow".  If you are experiencing the 3d blackness then you are extremely close to stepping into the astral, and to put it frankly, if you haven't yet experienced this, you will be astounded when you do.

The way I experience it, is as follows: First the 3d blackness, where you get a sensation of depth around you, and you can barely sense your physical body. Then, you are "in" the 3d blackness...for me, it feels like i'm sitting or standing in a pitch black room. At this point, I have no real reference to my physical body lying on the bed. Next, I open a door and step into the astral.

So, if I can give you any advice:
1) forget about touching your forehead. Try to ignore any pulsing sensation/ muscles contracting in your forehead, instead aim to relax this area to the point that you forget you have a forehead !
2) Let yourself drift into the sensation of the 3d blackness, trying to keep a clear mind without falling asleep ! This can be very tricky.

Also - there isn't just one right way of doing this...so try several. Be patient too !! and take heed of awakened mind's fantastic advice "Do not be excited or afraid, be aware".