Do vibrations have to come first?

[Skippy]

When practicing, do you have to wait until you get vibrations before moving on to a technique to exit your body? Or can you move on to a technique before you get vibrations, but hope to get from from using the technique?

(I hope I've worded this properly.)

[CFTraveler]

Not necessarily.  Vibrations don't come to everyone, and even if they do, they don't come every time.  There should be however, an indication of 'exit symptoms' or readiness.  Vibrations can be exit symptoms, but so can other ones like:  'feeling loose', astral sight (aka seeing through eyelids), heavy duty hypnagogics, astral noise (whooshing, freight-train or machinegun-type sounds, screeching, etc.) all these are indicators that you're in trance and are at the verge of separating.  Then you should move to an exit technique- the one that seems suited to whatever you're experiencing.

[Awakened_Mind]

Sometimes the exit technique can induce vibrations.

Always have it in your mind somewhere that you want to exit your body. This may help to make you more aware as it's happening.

-AM

[Novice]

I agree with what CFTraveler said. I never get vibrations. However, there are other indications or signs you can look for. Personally I have the same 'sign' if you will. I feel my entire body become loose and floating and soon afterwards it simply 'releases' from the physical. I'm not sure how else to describe it except the word release. It feels almost like there's a latch or hook and when I'm ready its 'opened' and I feel myself just float up and away.

[Skippy]

Thanks for your input, everyone. I used to think that vibrations were absolutely necessary.

[Lysear]

I aggree with awakened mind, the exit technique can induce vibrations. In fact, when robert bruce used to post on this forum, I remember him talking about his rope technique, he said he had gotten to the stage where he could just climb the rope and after a minute or so, begin to exit.

[Vvid1012]

Hey I just had my first conscious experience with vibrations last night...It was a pretty freaky feeling, like my entire body was some huge electric generator and it was vibrating at a phenomenal rate which i found out I could control how fast. 
Very weird indeed, I have projected many times and never before have felt this sensation, I generally feel that readiness of seperation and open my astral sight.  I figured that the readiness was somehow described as vibrations, but no, its VERY different! haha

It was almost scary at how fast it was going, does anyone have any experience as to what happens/may happen upon reaching a high frequency...i actually thought about death/sprits/ghost upon reaching I high freq, but I don't know if that means it's the rate at which spirits dwell or if it meant danger so I quickly pulled out and resonated to my normal self.  Thoughts?

[kiwibonga]

There's no definite consensus on what exactly the vibrations are, but they're not related to the "vibrational rate" we refer to when we talk about higher realms or higher entities... They could simply be like "white noise," like filler when you suddenly don't have a physical body with nerves anymore -- I find them extremely similar to the sensation you get when you sleep in a bad position and your blood circulation is cut off. They could also be an energetic reaction as Robert Bruce claims, since it seems that the creation of a projectable double requires a lot of energy to move around..

[the fool on the hill]

the way i do it is that i wait untill my body vibrates completeley & then i let it consume me.

[netzgewebe]

on the first two times i got very intense vibrations, and never managed to get out, now i only get lightly vibrations, and am still trying to figure when to project, cause i always fal asleep and wake up tired in the morning! 

[Awakened_Mind]

If the vibrations are getting lighter while you are still in a similar state of trance this is a good sign. It means that your energy pathways are flowing easier. Unblocked, so to speak.

A lot of the exit comes with will. Try different exit techniques involving to get yourself out when you feel the vibrations. What methods are you currently employing?

-AM

[Hagethuriel]

When practicing, do you have to wait until you get vibrations before moving on to a technique to exit your body? Or can you move on to a technique before you get vibrations, but hope to get from from using the technique?

(I hope I've worded this properly.)

The vibes will occur facilitating separation from the physical body . When they occur that is the time to lift out . The vibes can be enhanced thru routine meditation , energy exercises such as NEW , and routine projections as well as by lying in a fetal pose and lining up the steles of seth which are the lower leg and forearms . When the arms are parallel to each other and over the knees with the lower legs also parallel under the knees as in a fetal pose , then the body will project for an  OBE more efficiently . To build up the energy body steles drinking copious amounts of  water helps as does stretching and  yoga .

[Astir]

When I first came to these forums and read about vibrations and noise, so many people were claiming to experience them I was convinced for a little while I hadn't been achieving true OBE's without having them. That I needed to be having them. I have never felt vibrations at all, or heard a thing when I exit.

I do not use an exit technique, I've always had it happen automatically and I don't force it...it's harder to make it happen when I want it to and when I focus...

[Awakened_Mind]

Good to bring up Astir.

An important thing to mention is that our experiences are entirely unique. Sometimes when we share our experiences we relate on the general but only occasionaly on the specific.

My first projection was spontaneous as was the second. My exit technique was actually beseaching to OBE before falling asleep, rather than the actual time of exit.

-AM

[Hans Solo]

Hey I just had my first conscious experience with vibrations last night...It was a pretty freaky feeling, like my entire body was some huge electric generator and it was vibrating at a phenomenal rate which i found out I could control how fast. 
Very weird indeed, I have projected many times and never before have felt this sensation, I generally feel that readiness of seperation and open my astral sight.  I figured that the readiness was somehow described as vibrations, but no, its VERY different! haha

This is a good description.  When people first start out they think the slightest tingling could be the "vibes", but once you really have them there is no mistaking them. It usually feels like you stuck your finger in a light socket.

If you get the vibes here is what you do to "get out" (although, you are not getting out or "going" anywhere--but I digress)

1.  Let them consume you like a previous poster said
2.  Change the frequency.  Sometimes the vibes may be strong but a little "Clunky" feeling, like all the waves are not vibrating at the same frequency.  So, you WILL them to vibrate at a "finer", higher rate. It just take a few moments to get the hang of this.
3.  Allow yourself to go with the feeling of movement, I usually end up in the "Real Time Zone"
4.  Once in the RTZ use Franks "slats" technique to move into Fzero, or the 3d blackness (sorry don't have time to find the post). 

Also, listen in the stillness of your mind for a high "whistle" sound.  It may come right before the vibes and also helps brings on the vibes.  I am comming to realize that this high "whistle", screatching wind sound, may be the holy grail of astral projection.  I am still tinkering around with it however.

Hope that helps,
Han