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Bedeekin's Method



Hello guys, I have a technique to share with you today. It is called Beedekin's Method in honor of the person who created it and it gives us a name to refer to it as since for all I know, it's unique. I did not create this method and take no credit for it, the person who created it, for all I know is called Beedekin. I have not been able to try it myself yet but I will definitly do so tonight and tell you if it works. This technique is said to actually work very well and many people have had OBE's with it or at least some form of success. Here is the method (copied from sources listed below):

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Failure to actually have an Out-Of-Body Experience seems to be the most common ‘experience’ among the massive group of people who wish to have one. This frustrates me as much as those who fail because of the wall I run into when trying to teach them. There are many reasons why people are unsuccessful at achieving the state.

One main reason is down to the ‘wealth’ of information one can pick up online and the paragraphs of most OOBE related books in general. I see many posts on sites that say something along the lines of ‘I’ve been researching Astral Projection for ages and now I’m ready to learn how to have one’. This is like saying ‘I have been researching UFOs for ages and now I’m ready to see one’. While they had their best interest at heart because to be fair it is a great idea to research a subject before heading into it head first, this isn’t sky diving. Also, if you wish to research sky diving because you have an interest in doing it, their aren’t many sources available that would profess to know about it and print blatant fabricated facts. Unfortunately the same can’t be said for OOBEs.

A common mistake that people make is a preconceived idea of what OOBES are because of the evident rubbish that is widely available. For instance they may have read that when they enter the Vibrational State (VS) they must call upon their spirit guide to help pull  them out. This may fit in with their spiritual beliefs and so if they reach the VS and call upon this mythical guide he/she/it may not appear... which will then have a negative effect on their sense of success. I myself have never seen a spirit guide although I’m sure I could create one if I wished... emphasis on ‘create’.

What I am saying is that to enter the subject with a quasi-religious belief system will only get in the way of success because it just isn’t so.

The majority of the ‘wealth’ of knowledge that one may have aquired by trawling through the pile of information at hand, is as useful as a chocolate fireguard and should be cast off so that one can start afresh and learn from a first hand perspective. I had the advantage of self learning without any outside influences such as the internet and only a few books at hand that I mainly used as a checklist of affirmation that I wasn’t weird.

Unlearn what you think you have learned.

So let’s get rid of a few misconceptions about OOBEs that often arise through New-age belief-centricity and blatant un-truths that get thrown about due to the writings of popular so-called AP gurus.  

*you need to learn how to achieve transcendental meditation and control the energy flow of your chakras.

Not true. You just need to keep your mind passively active while your body relaxes into the sleep slate or be able to slip from a lucid dream into the trance state. Chakras are an eastern philosophy that were origionally intended for use during wake induced meditation and have nothing to do with OOBEs until they were pounced upon by the New-age movement during the early part of the 1900s by the Theosophical Society and integrated into ‘astral projection’. Involving chakra opening, long meditation practice is basically a waste of precious time. If you feel better practicing these semi-religious activities in order to success then go for it... the same can be said for taking your lucky teddy-bear into exams; if it makes you feel that it will make you perform better there’s no harm... but in the grand scheme of things there’s also no point.  

*you need to learn protection so that you’re not attacked by lower astral negative entities and demons.

Rubbish. There are no lower entities or monsters waiting to attack you while you ‘leave your body’. I can attest to this because I’ve had over three thousand OOBEs over a 25 year period and I have never been attacked or harmed or indeed possessed by anyone or anything. When you enter the State you are merely consciously aware of an otherwise unconscious process you have gone through every night you’ve entered sleep since you were born.

*Your bed or body has to be facing a certain way/position.

No harm can be done by lying a certain way... if you think it will work then do it. Sleep on the floor... in the kitchen... on the sofa... with a pillow or without... on your back, front, side or head... if it’s the way you normally sleep... do it.

*You need to breath a certain way... in through the nose out through the mouth etc.

Not so... just breath as you normally do. Your breathing self regulates once you enter the state. Don’t pay any attention to your breathing.
I’m sure I’ll come across other misconceptions as I’m writing... I’ll bullet-point important things like that along the way.

There are three main ways to enter the ‘State’; before sleep, during REM dream sleep and upon waking from a nights sleep.

*Before sleep state induction. this requires a set up ‘pre-sleep’ that primes you biochemically and physiologically to enter the state.

*REM dream sleep induction requires a grasp of Lucid Dreaming and is a bit hit and miss for the newbie.

*Waking state induction requires the ability to recognize that you have woken up and at that very moment remembering not to move, roll over, scratch an itch or open the eyes... or even to start listening to the noises around you. It takes a bit of practice but it is a very successful way of entering the State.

There are two very different types of OOBE.

* Astral Projection. This is a whole body projection into an environment that is commonly referred to in new-age writings as the Astral Realm. A strange word to use because it conjures up pre-conceived images of a starry mythical realm filled with beings of astral energy etc. However upon entering it, it’s soon realized that it is more familiar as the landscape or world you encounter when dreaming. But you have entered through the back door, and can objectively investigate and explore it without suffering from the sub-conscious imagery you are normally blinded by or the story-line you are normally wrapped up in when dreaming. Within the ‘Astral’... not even the sky is the limit. This environment, however real it seems may be considered a virtual world that is created by the projector or an actual authentic realm. Upon experiencing it, believing that it is real or fabricated matters not because it is indistinguishable from reality... even surpassing normal reality in quality and ‘reality’.

* 1st Phase OOBE. This is seemingly a projection into this reality, often referred to in new-age philosophy as an ‘ethereal projection’. It is much more difficult to achieve because of the way it is entered; during Sleep Paralysis. Apart from the fact that it takes place in this time and reality, the main difference from AP is that instead of experiencing it in body, you are seemingly a free floating point of conscious awareness. This phase can lead on to 2nd Phase which is again experienced as a free floating consciousness but is not in this reality.

Both of these different OOBEs are experienced by entering the state in varied degrees of deepness.

PRE-SLEEP INDUCTION

This method is the main one I personally use. I have used the other methods but this one when done correctly does make for a strong experience. It’s also the one I predominantly teach or rather explain. The main key to achieving it is the pre-sleep or nap. I previously posted this method but soon realized that it was too specific about hours spent in the nap and between the nap and going to to bed to enter the state. And it needed more explanation and a detailed phenomenological breakdown.

The basic goal is to prime yourself by having an hour or an hour and a half of non-dream sleep in the evening. This nap can be taken at any time after 6pm providing that you are actually tired and that you attempt to induce the state within four hours at the most after waking.

For example:

if you decide to take an hour nap at 8pm and wake at 9pm make sure you attempt induction after 10 and before 1am.
however, if you wait till after midnight then it is possible to have an hour nap, wake up for about half an hour then attempt induction. I have used this many times when it’s been impossible to get a good nap during the evening.

All you have to remember is that you nap solidly and do not under any circumstances drift back off to sleep upon waking from it, otherwise you will dream and ruin your chance for state inducement.

There is a certain way of feeling between the nap and state inducement that indicates that you are primed... the physical symptoms that indicate that you are primed for the state are among other things; itchy eyed, borderline tired and alert, slightly hypertensive or having the mild sensation that you may be coming down with a cold and a slow steady heart rate.

Two things to note:

* the nap or a non-dream pre-sleep is very important and could be considered the ‘key’ to the whole experience.  

* Do not force the nap. You need to be sleepy for it to work.

The only real way to make sure you are correctly primed is to induce the state and there are many effective ways to do this.

First of all you have to lay down on a comfortable surface; a bed, a couch, a hammock, the back seat of a car, whatever you find comfortable. Any position will work. I personally lie on my back or side. It doesn’t matter whether you use a pillow or not. You can have bed covers on or not. Just make sure you are comfortable.
Close your eyes... this sounds obvious, but some people actually ask ‘do I close my eyes?’
Let your mind do its own thing for a couple of minutes... then try to quieten your mind. Don’t worry too much about this. The main thing is to lie as still as possible.

A couple of things you should not pay any attention to because they are simply a waste of thought;

*any limb or body twitches

*the phosphorescent light show your eyes give off such as blobs of light etc

*subtle localized buzzing in your muscles or fingertips

*breathing

*the position of your head

All you need to think about at this point is to become calm and stay passively conscious. To let your body relax. This should take no more than 5 to 10 minutes.

It’s at this point that you can use different methods to bring on the state.

This is the one method I have used for 25 years and really can’t comment on others. I’m sure you may have one that you usually try inducing with... but for the sake of this guide try this one.

When you feel relaxed start to think of a sound, word, song or name... think of it as though you are expecting to here it. Roll it around in your head. Imagine it in your head clearly. Alternatively you can simply imagine a voice rambling, or talking, as though talking to you. This imagined sound will start to take on a life of it’s own and may amplify.

If you are trying to do this for more than ten minutes and nothing interesting happens, you probably aren’t primed for the occasion. I only say this because the state shift is quite rapid if the pre-sleep was done correctly. I will mention that ten minutes of just simply lying still can feel like a long time.

If you are primed, when the sound increases you may feel a rush of alert relaxation washing over your body coupled with a distinct shift in conscious awareness. It’s a very difficult feeling to describe other than it is a ‘switch over’. You should feel like your awareness has took on a new spatiality. It almost feels like your head clears, like a bunged up nostril does when it clears after being blocked during a cold. You should also instinctively feel that you are in the state either because you have felt this before or that it is something new. At this point you must try to stay passive, calm and try to not get excited. A sound like you have your ears to a conch-shell should be heard. you may experience little intermittent bursts of rumbling - like the rumbling you hear when you strain your inner ear muscles when you yawn. Your limbs will feel like they have been anesthetized by Nitrous Oxide...

Here’s a quick checklist of symptoms indicating successful entrance into the state:

* a sudden rush of relaxation

* a very distinct flip/shift/switch to a spatially different state of conscious awareness.

* instinctive knowing that you are in the state.

* auditory sensations like hissing, the sound of listening to a conch-shell and intermittent bursts of rumbling.

* a tingling numbed anesthetized sensation, most noticeably in the limbs.

At the point you realize you are in the state it is time to act quickly to enter an Astral Projection. Waiting for, or encouraging full vibrational sleep paralysis will make it possible to enter a 1st phase. For now we will walk before we can run and learn how to Astrally Project.

Astral Projection

Upon instant identification of entry into the state it is necessary to employ a swift separation technique to avoid becoming embroiled in full sleep paralysis. There are a multitude of separation methods such as, rolling out, dropping through the body, imagining a magnet pulling you out, imagining you are a balloon, picking a point in space to reach, imagining being propelled out like a rocket... and many many more. The one that is most effective for the purposes of this guide and because it is my most used method so far, is the ‘climbing the rope’ technique.

You may want to place a pillow or cushion across your lower abdomen or lay with your hands on top of the bed covers before you start to relax. This ensures a soft surface so as to ease the transition of losing sensation in them. It’s up to you.

Once you feel that you have shifted into the state you will have lost the tactile sensation of your hands but still retained the sensation of their relative position.. i.e. you will still know and feel that you have hands.

What you need to do at this point is to actually reach up and grab a rope. Don’t visualize the rope... expect it to be there. Don’t worry about how it should feel just do it. I can’t stress this enough.

* Do not ‘imagine’ yourself doing it.

* Just do it.

* Don’t think about it.

* just do it.

* The movement of your phantom limbs is instinctual.

There will be a rope there... not necessarily an actual rope, made of fibers or hemp... it is simply a leverage point for you to grasp. Give no time to thinking about the rope, what it is, why it is there, how it is there or how you should move to grab it.

JUST GRAB THE ROPE BECAUSE IT IS THERE ABOVE YOU READY TO BE GRABBED.

The instant you have it pull yourself up... hand over hand... like you would if you were pulling yourself up a rope. Do it with deliberation... do it aggressively, steadily and fast. Pull yourself up the rope. Don’t even consider that you may be pulling yourself out of your physical or because of how real it seems that you must be doing it physically. Don’t pay   attention to any of the sensations. If there is resistance, put some struggle into it... pull hard. Eventually and quickly you should suddenly be ‘Free’.

Failure usually takes place because of thinking too much or over analyzing what is happening. Also paying too much heed to sensations leads to considerable failure to stay in the state and out of body. These analytical thoughts should be reserved for after the experience and marked down in your journal. When you are in the state everything should be done on impulse and with deliberate action.

failure to stay within the state will transpire if:

* Too much thought is given trying to visualize the rope or analyzing what is happening.

* Thinking about how the sensations feel.

* pausing or remaining still too long - this can be as less as 5 seconds.

* Believing that this can’t be happening or the disbelief that the rope is there.

* Merely imagining movement.

Success at staying within the state will transpire if:

* you instantly acknowledge that the rope is there.

* you get on with it.

* You keep moving.

* You take it for granted that you are doing it.

Staying still and waiting for something to happen after the state shift, is the most common mistake beginners make; to no fault of their own. It is after all an amazing experience that feels more real than reality yet something they may never have experienced before. The secret is to be actively engaged yet flippant and passive throughout the experience. You may say that’s two opposites, but keep in mind that you do this when playing a video game or when engaged in sport.... you don’t think about what you are doing but you are totally absorbed in the activity. This is part of the mindset of the state.
I chose the ‘climbing the rope’ technique because it consists of one very important thing... that of ‘action’ and vigorous ‘movement’, probably the most important aspect of staying within the state and Out of Body. Constant movement and observation is the key to ‘anchoring’ yourself in the ‘Astral’... any extended lapse in movement or doubt - which normally takes the form of thoughts of your actual physical body - will cause re-physicality and an end to the experience. You can however ‘rescue’ the experience by instantly realizing you are returning to the physical by anchoring yourself in the out of body state.

Anchoring yourself in the ‘Astral’ body and Environment.

Once you are out what now? If you think this for too long while staying still you will phase back into your physical. So, You literally have to anchor yourself in the experience. The main objective of anchoring is to keep you immersed in the experience by disassociating your conscious perception from your physical perception.
The first thing you will most probably experience is blindness. So you can kill two birds with one stone by rubbing your hands together in front of your face and blowing on them... the tactile sensation of doing this will absolutely astound you and by concentrating on feeling and seeing, your hands will start to develop in your field of vision - very much like a polaroid picture appears. Look at your hands... the creases the folds of skin, your fingernails. The more you engross yourself in the OOBE the more you will see and feel. Reach out and feel for a floor, a wall... furniture. Keep on the move, constantly looking, moving, taking in the richness and amazing detail of the World around you. Try to keep your eyes on nearby objects... if you look too far into the distance you may end up there in an instant. You must keep active and engaged to root yourself. The more you anchor yourself the more vivid the world will be around you
You can use the hand rubbing technique as a safety net at any point you feel yourself return to your physical.

Do’s

Be blatant and have intent

touch your surroundings

touch yourself, like your hands, your face etc

investigate everything

explore

Don’ts

Stay still

worry

doubt

think of your physical body

panic if you think you are losing clarity

Remember - thought and intent controls environment and actions.    

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Sources: (read for people's experiences. I know the youtube video has reports of success from a few people)

Youtube video part one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-9hETPjJlo

Youtube video part two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKglrf2-co0&feature=fvw

Original Article: (you may need to register to view this link, but everything regarding the technique is already here)
http://astralviewers.com/articles/new-comprehensive-astral-projection-guide/
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 07:12:57 »

I think this is a decent article with a good technique - its very similar to what has worked for me. 
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 15:28:53 »

i agree, i like it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 18:41:45 »

I used this last night. Here's my scenario.


The morning of the day I tried this
Woke up at 10:50am, ate breakfast, everything was normal.

Nap
Napped at approx. 1:20am (time of falling asleep) and woke up at 2:20am

Time of trying method
Tried method at approx. 3:30am. About 20 minutes through, my whole body started to vibrate. This lasted for about 6 seconds. I'm not sure if I felt the "shift" he talks about in this method. I definitly didn't have the instinct that I was in the new state of awareness.

Has anyone else experienced the vibrating? Can someone give me some pointers?
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2010, 18:49:23 »

Hey Jay,

The shift happens for me when I do not overthink. Maybe you were paying too much attention to the bodily sensations and thinking about that constantly like "Is it now? When will I shift?". That keeps you from changing your focus of consciousness, thus preventing you from projecting.

That's my opinion though.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 06:04:39 »

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A common mistake that people make is a preconceived idea of what OOBES are because of the evident rubbish that is widely available. For instance they may have read that when they enter the Vibrational State (VS) they must call upon their spirit guide to help pull  them out. This may fit in with their spiritual beliefs and so if they reach the VS and call upon this mythical guide he/she/it may not appear... which will then have a negative effect on their sense of success. I myself have never seen a spirit guide although I’m sure I could create one if I wished... emphasis on ‘create’.

What I am saying is that to enter the subject with a quasi-religious belief system will only get in the way of success because it just isn’t so.

I completely agree. I do not have these beliefs either, and I have not seen a so called spirit guide. Same goes for monsters, devils, or any other type of religious figure.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 14:22:34 »

I completely agree. I do not have these beliefs either, and I have not seen a so called spirit guide. Same goes for monsters, devils, or any other type of religious figure.
I don't fully agree with him labeling "guides" as "mythical".
I believe that they *are* real.  They're simply people who were either once human or they've never been human and just help out because it's the right thing to do.

You might very well be a guide for someone some day.

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 18:06:11 »

That's a good write-up! Thanks for posting!  smiley
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 21:10:40 »

That's a good write-up! Thanks for posting!  smiley
You are very welcome. Thanks for your response!

Last night I tried this but could not wake up after the 1-2 hour nap. I was disorientated and decided it was better to just sleep. Lol
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 21:13:32 »

You are very welcome. Thanks for your response!

Last night I tried this but could not wake up after the 1-2 hour nap. I was disorientated and decided it was better to just sleep. Lol
I try to do something like this, but generally in the morning... so after 6 - 8 hours.
I find that SOMETIMES when I wake up, I'm just not coherent enough and fall back asleep.  LOL

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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2010, 09:54:06 »

Very cool read. I have had troubles shifting to this state from an awake state and only had
success after a sleep cycle just like what was mentioned. I have short obes every morning
now If I choose to have one. I decided to just figure it out myself through trial and error.
I really don't think this kind of thing can be taught through reading and it seems to me
that a lot of things that people talk about are constructs of the mind.

The "Switching Over" sounds right, I feel my body switch into a different one and my state of mind
changes within seconds. It feels like a ghost version of me comes loose and starts floating inside
my body. I can project pretty much straight away when this happens. When I separate
I can hear my physical mind racing and having a dialog with itself or someone while my awareness moves
away into a dead quiet space.

If I project too quick I have to wait about 10 seconds in a space without any vision while touching
textures in my room and focusing on them before my vision kicks in. If I wait a while I eventually see
behind closed eyelids or lose focus and snap out of the state.

I don't get any vibrations ever. I have also had little success with energy work. I'm not sure what to
make of this yet. I always keep an open mind about energy work but so far It hasn't helped me yet.
I have also used hemi-sync and similar cds, hypnosis cds and even had a hypnosis session without success.
None of these can put me in an altered state. I usually takes me over an hour to fall asleep. I have yet
to get into this state from a complete awake state.

I also seem to project into 3 different kinds of "realms". Using my house for example:

One very colorful and vivid with the sun shining and so much creativity and freedom.
Everyone is happy and helpful.

One dark in a sense that it's night time and really hard to do anything because it's too dark to
see. People and family members in this space act odd and creepy.

A hollow, quiet, desolate version of my house. No furniture in the house, just a floor,walls and windows.
Outside houses seem to be very very basic. A house, a lawn, and a letter box. There is a feeling of
emptiness in this space and what I can only describe as a quiet humming noise. Sometimes there is
a gentle rain outside. No one to be seen in this space.



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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2010, 10:16:14 »

So this may seem stupid. But what does he mean by "just grab the rope". Is this guy saying all you have to do is just reach up and grab it? as in, don't imagine it, don't "tactile image it" just reach up as you would in waking life, and grab it?
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2010, 10:30:14 »

So this may seem stupid. But what does he mean by "just grab the rope". Is this guy saying all you have to do is just reach up and grab it? as in, don't imagine it, don't "tactile image it" just reach up as you would in waking life, and grab it?

He means that once you are in this state to just "Start climbing a rope" to get out. If you try to
think about how to do this and what the rope is attached to then you will end up having problems.
You don't try to create things, you expect them to happen and your subconscious will create it for you.
I'm not sure about don't "tactile image it"

I usually just focus on the texture of my bed and the ground. I crawl along the floor focusing on all the
textures while moving to my wardrobe. I focus on that to keep my focus in this space and away from
my body. There isn't any vision at this state except for non visual awareness, for me anyway.

Climbing a rope or ladder is the same kind of thing. something to focus on. After climbing this rope or
ladder you will eventually start seeing your surroundings as you move away from your body.
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2010, 13:37:50 »

So this may seem stupid. But what does he mean by "just grab the rope". Is this guy saying all you have to do is just reach up and grab it? as in, don't imagine it, don't "tactile image it" just reach up as you would in waking life, and grab it?
Nike always said it best, "Just do it!"

You don't think you breath... you just do it.
Well don't think to grab the rope... just do it!  Smiley

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