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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2007, 17:33:11 »

Han:

I've wandered off in the web you've pointed out, but it seems, looking at the forum, that it's more intended to bodybuilders, or the like. Don't you have a resume of it?

Maybe you've heard about autogenic training. I practiced it for a while, and I obtained very good results, I could even enter a physical-shut-down state while walking and awake (quite dangerous, too). But with this one my weak point was the neck too (anyway I was in a very stressful state of my life). But I'd recommend it to anyone. Basically it consists in relaxing your limbs with the help of some mental orders. The author states that once they're relaxed the relaxation extends to the rest of the body. The practice is accompanied with other steps related to the head. I don't remember everything by heart.

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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2007, 20:42:59 »

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I've wandered off in the web you've pointed out, but it seems, looking at the forum, that it's more intended to bodybuilders, or the like. Don't you have a resume of it?

I wouldn't read the forums if I were you I would just look at the old Manual and the new Manual someone else wrote. 

Old Manual Relaxation: http://www.maxalding.co.uk/mc-book-english/mc-e-4a.htm


You can see the new Manual by going here: http://www.maxalding.co.uk/Philosophy/philosophy1.htm Take a look at part 3 (bullet point 2 if you are in a hurry) and part 9 and tell me that kind of control wouldn't be beneficial in AP-especially 11.5.1 )

Maxalding is basically the art of controlling all voluntary and involuntary muscles in the body by creating a better mind-body connection.  The reason these guys were extremely muscular is because they also lifted weights and did hand balancing.  The muscle control itself is just establishing a better nerve connection between the mind and the muscle.  The nerve becomes stronger and the signals travel between the two better.  In the process your muscles will also become more supple and stronger with less daily residual tension.
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2007, 10:15:57 »

Thanks you so much, Han!

I was a bit lost in that page. I've downloaded all the files to read them at home.

I've always thought that mind-body connection is one of the tests to pass before moving on to more mystical things. One of my problems is that I tend to have my focus always pointing out my inner world. That has provoked to me bad body-postures, a poor breathing technique, and so... A total disconnection!

Time ago, one day, I put all my efforts to center my consciousness outside my inner world, i.e, to my body and the surroundings. That same day I had a LD. Awesome!

That's why I've always believed that a good mind-shut-down, and a point-out-your-body techniques are a must in order to improve your AP and LC capabilities.

Thanks again. I'll read the books and I'll come back to express my experience.
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2007, 13:21:47 »

How long does it take you guys to reach Focus 10 ? I usually listen to brainwave entrainment CDs for an hour before my body goes numb. Sometimes I feel these tingling sensations all over my body. But I ALWAYS feel my body.

But sometimes I'd awake early and couldn't feel my body. Should I try to get fully consciousness*?

Too bad I can't get into Focus 10 in the night. I'm trying it for a couple of years now but it doesn't work for me.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2007, 17:49:13 »

I normally reach F10 anywhere between 10 and 35 minutes. If it dosen't happen during this time, I find it's not going to. That's for me, it's different for everyone.

You say you always feel your body. That might be your problem - stop trying to feel it. Immerse yourself in noticing or a run-down to draw your attention away from your body. Don't wait for your body to go numb, just ignore all physical sensations.
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2007, 11:01:53 »

Han:

This thing about Maxalding has a lot of stuff to practice, hasn't it? I'm lost in translation  cheesy (just a pun).

If you've practiced it, what would be a little resume of the technique? (a hands-on guide). I'm very interested in it.

Thanks!
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2007, 17:27:53 »

What focus is when you start to mildly hallucinate, or get intense rushes after you've reached F10, (and I mean feel like I moving at the speed of light) but don't actually get anywhere?

I find that I sometimes get stuck in Sleep Paralysis, where I am just unable to roll myself to the side, and unable to begin any kind of lucid experience. Usually if I start any kind of hallucination or intense rush (depending on how much this rush excites me because they are FUN), I'm usually good to go.

I remember once I was stuck in it for quite a long time, and I told myself, forget this, I'm going to sleep, and oddly I could not lose my lucidity no matter how hard I tried. It was like I had a full-blown waking consciousness during it, something I wish I would have the majority of my lucid (or semi-lucid) experiences.
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