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« on: March 22, 2010, 17:18:47 »

For the past 6 months, I have had access to the astral realm by closing my eyes! I don't astral project....I simply close my eyes and I'm there! There are usually a bunch of beings around me and I can't hear what their saying, but if I ask a yes or no question, they'll nod either yes or no! Also, they are able to touch me.....I mean physically.....I can't touch them though! I know this sounds crazy, but it's very real! When I meditate, they stand on both sides of me and sometimes participate in my meditations or just watch......I think! When I go bed at night......some beings seem to have a sexual interest in me, which is a little freaky, but I've learned to calm down & just decline the sexual aspect.
Has anyone had an experience like this........HuhHuh
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 17:29:49 »

First, for clarification...
Do you mean "Astral" or "Etheric"?
Etheric being the plane closest to the Physical.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 17:47:50 »

Good question as to whether it's astral or etheric.....I mean....some of the beings look human and some not! When I meditate, the light values are bright....almost a white-gold! But when I close my eyes, the light value is much darker! I've been trying to figure this out for awhile and have tried to ask people who might know, without getting a lot of "you know"......silly responses! One person told me to "go within".....I mean isn't that what one does during meditation? I still have no definitive answers to this and I need to know what it is & why! I would sincerely appreciate any ideas or suggestions !!!

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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 18:10:11 »

Well, do you see these beings in relation to the physical world around you?

Are you seeing "just them" or other "structures" too that you wouldn't normally see?
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 18:20:54 »

When I close my eyes, it is an entirely different world from the physical....there are no structures, houses, buildings..... just beings and nothing else! When I meditate, I see different scenarios.....places that look off-planet, with structures, buildings, people or beings actually doing different tasks....children with parents, sometimes people are sick..... most of the time during meditations, I get a very familiar feeling for what I'm seeing as if I've actually been there! Sometimes I see a myriad of faces...again some human & some not!
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 18:32:18 »

Definitely sounds more Astral.
Next question...

When you close your eyes, do you "SEE" these things... like the back of your eyelids are a tv screen?
Or are these visualizations?  As in you don't ACTUALLY see them, but you feel them?
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 18:42:57 »

I actually see them and yes, as if my eyelids were a screen and they move as well and they are able to physically touch me, as if they were physical too, except they're not physical! Sometimes they will rest their heads or bodies on me & I can feel the weight of their bodies! No one else in my household can see them and I only see them when my eyes are closed! I really appreciate your help.......!
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2010, 18:46:12 »

Well, it sounds like some kind of mind's eye ability.
Apart from that, I can't help too much more.

You can communicate with them, you said?
Have you tried coming up with another form of communication aside from head "nods"?
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 18:53:51 »

They are "mouthing" words, but I can't understand what they're saying! They seem to understand whether I speak physically or just think the thoughts! I wish I knew another way to communicate......telepathy would be a good talent to have at this point!
Again, I do appreciate your input......thank you!
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 21:06:04 »

wow, this sounds so awesome. Spread love in your thoughts. Love them in your thoughts very much... and observe what's happening.  smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 21:35:39 »

Well, there is also one other possibility...

It could all just be in your head.  Smiley
After all, seeing patterns (entities) in chaos (blackness behind the eyes) is really what the human mind does best.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 22:03:52 »

Well, there is also one other possibility...

It could all just be in your head.  Smiley
After all, seeing patterns (entities) in chaos (blackness behind the eyes) is really what the human mind does best.

I have thought of the possibility that it's in my head.....but there is absolutely no way to explain the physical touching that occurs......it is as real as a member of my family touching me......which tells me that it's the real-deal! I know that it sounds crazy, but I'm not....if fact I'm  a very logical & rational person and I think that's why the physical component of this exists......otherwise I might think that it's a mental disorder. Also, I don't think that I would describe it as seeing patterns in chaos....these are beings and make no mistake, they are beings and no, they don't walk....they seem to float and the background most often has a bluish hue to it......almost like dark blue water!
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 22:59:08 »

Are they useful to you? Ever tried asking them for any sort of advice? Try to come up with some tests to see if they are really real. I would be very interested in knowing whether they could interact with other people the way they do with you.

Then try to come up with some sort of validation test, like having them guess where someone is inside your house or something like that.

They could come in handy if they're willing to cooperate  smiley
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 23:11:45 »

I have thought of the possibility that it's in my head.....but there is absolutely no way to explain the physical touching that occurs......it is as real as a member of my family touching me......which tells me that it's the real-deal! I know that it sounds crazy, but I'm not....if fact I'm  a very logical & rational person and I think that's why the physical component of this exists......otherwise I might think that it's a mental disorder. Also, I don't think that I would describe it as seeing patterns in chaos....these are beings and make no mistake, they are beings and no, they don't walk....they seem to float and the background most often has a bluish hue to it......almost like dark blue water!
Actually, the mind can come up with quite a lot in the 'sensation' department... and it can create it all on its own.
I've had dreams where I've woken up "holding" an object... then once awake, I could swear I was still holding that object, only to find that I'm holding something entirely different.
I know that's not exactly what you're experiencing, but it still holds true.

However, I'm not really going to fall on either side of this fence for now.  I just wanted to make clear that the possibility exists. Smiley

Maybe someone else has another theory.  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2010, 07:35:20 »

Does this happen EVERY time you close your eyes? or just when you're slightly relaxed? And is there an occurring scenario or face?
That seems pretty wild, seems like a supremely unique ability. Have you ever asked a yes/no about something in your reality? Something you could actually validate?
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 15:29:39 »

Are they useful to you? Ever tried asking them for any sort of advice? Try to come up with some tests to see if they are really real. I would be very interested in knowing whether they could interact with other people the way they do with you.

Then try to come up with some sort of validation test, like having them guess where someone is inside your house or something like that.

They could come in handy if they're willing to cooperate  smiley

I actually have tried a "test" if you will. A family member had some testing done by a physician and there was the possibility that the outcome could be cancer & I asked them if this person had cancer and they all shook their heads for "no"! After more tests were completed by the doctor, it was determined that there was no cancer......so thank god for that & they were right! I try not to get carried away asking questions.....and realistically, most of the questions that I would like to ask. require more than a yes or no answer! I also never-ever feel alone!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 15:54:34 »

Actually, the mind can come up with quite a lot in the 'sensation' department... and it can create it all on its own.
I've had dreams where I've woken up "holding" an object... then once awake, I could swear I was still holding that object, only to find that I'm holding something entirely different.
I know that's not exactly what you're experiencing, but it still holds true.

However, I'm not really going to fall on either side of this fence for now.  I just wanted to make clear that the possibility exists. Smiley

Maybe someone else has another theory.  Smiley

Hi Xanth...
The only additional  info I can state is that I'm awake and not asleep when this is happening and it happens each & every time I close my eyes and the touching is real on a daily basis, I can feel the movement of someone on my bed when they(beings) lay on or near me and I can feel the touch of someone that has no physical form in 3D. Do I have physical proof of this claim....no! I'm also not trying to convince you or anyone else of my experience.
My whole purpose of posting was to see if anyone had experienced any thing similar and to possibly correlate another experience with mine....mainly to understand the dynamics involved! My belief is that other people might be experiencing this and won't talk about it....cause it's way out there or some well-meaning doctor has mistakenly diagnosed that person with some sort of mental disorder, because this experience is definitely outside of the norm. If I weren't a stable person, this experience would have driven me over the edge, however, I have no history of mental illness in my family AND I trust myself & my senses.
In any event, again, I appreciate your comments & ideas and it's okay to sit on the fence on this...!
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2010, 16:05:56 »

Dear Annika,

as far as I'm aware this is a combination of extrasensory perceptions such as clair-voyance, clair-audience, clair-tactilense etc.


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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2010, 16:30:57 »

Dear Annika,

as far as I'm aware this is a combination of extrasensory perceptions such as clair-voyance, clair-audience, clair-tactilense etc.


kind regards,

Paul
Hi Paul....
That's interesting.....have you ever known anyone who exhibited all three perceptions at one time or ever read about this in any book? I really do believe that there have been others with these perceptions.....thanks for your help!
Take care.....
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 16:41:37 »

Most projections will include many if not all clarient senses- especially if the projection is to the RTZ.  Most people that have sight when they project also have clairsentience (go through a wall and you'll see) and the act of separation causes astral noise, even though most people don't perceive sound while they are separate (because sound is a wave and is perceived as sound only it comes in though the physical ear).

However, when you're in trance (in-body) usually sounds and pictures will both come in at the same time, and ocassionally touch, which can be very discomfiting.

ps. I didn't respond to the post originally because I have had visions by closing my eyes (not in a proper trance) but these instances are few and far between, and only happen in darkness.
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 17:08:29 »

Most projections will include many if not all clarient senses- especially if the projection is to the RTZ.  Most people that have sight when they project also have clairsentience (go through a wall and you'll see) and the act of separation causes astral noise, even though most people don't perceive sound while they are separate (because sound is a wave and is perceived as sound only it comes in though the physical ear).

However, when you're in trance (in-body) usually sounds and pictures will both come in at the same time, and ocassionally touch, which can be very discomfiting.

ps. I didn't respond to the post originally because I have had visions by closing my eyes (not in a proper trance) but these instances are few and far between, and only happen in darkness.
Very interesting.....the only sound that I'm getting are various frequency eartones(very loud sometimes) and static noise or white noise as though a lot of people are talking, but what they're saying is indistinguishable! Thank you.....
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2010, 18:08:04 »

Hi Paul....
That's interesting.....have you ever known anyone who exhibited all three perceptions at one time or ever read about this in any book? I really do believe that there have been others with these perceptions.....thanks for your help!
Take care.....


Dear Annika,

it is called Remote Viewing, unlike the term "viewing" implies, you actually utilize as many extrasensory senses as possible at once.

If what you exercise is truely extrasensory perception, you should be easily able to switch fast and view anything at any chronological point of time but you would also be able to communicate with other beings in real time.


kind regards,

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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2010, 19:53:42 »

Here's the way I see it:

Our consciousness spans across all dimensions of reality, but our awareness during physical life stays centered in the physical. When we astral project, we move our awareness from physical to astral.

With clairvoyance, clairaudience, remote viewing, etc., you're stretching your awareness. You're staying aware in the physical, but at the same time stretching your awareness into the etheric and/or astral (or further). I suppose the best clairvoyants can maintain awareness of several areas of consciousness simultaneously.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2010, 06:27:39 »

I feel like I can see myself when i close my eyes, in rainbow/white colors.
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2010, 15:21:58 »

Here's the way I see it:

Our consciousness spans across all dimensions of reality, but our awareness during physical life stays centered in the physical. When we astral project, we move our awareness from physical to astral.

With clairvoyance, clairaudience, remote viewing, etc., you're stretching your awareness. You're staying aware in the physical, but at the same time stretching your awareness into the etheric and/or astral (or further). I suppose the best clairvoyants can maintain awareness of several areas of consciousness simultaneously.

Hi Stookie.....
I think that you're very accurate about maintaining an awareness of the physical, but at the same time stretching your awareness into the etheric or astral realms. One of the aspects that I've noticed is that I'm ultra-aware of the physical, even when my eyes are closed. In any event, between viewing into the astral realms and meditation.....both have been such consciousness expanding events, that I feel reborn in many ways! I look the same, but my perspective has changed about so many areas and I truly live in the moment, instead of constantly living for some future event.....thanks for your input!
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