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Privex
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« on: July 20, 2016, 14:21:16 »

I want to first start this topic by sharing my experiences:

The first day I got into AP, I was extremely relaxed almost all the time. I tried Astral Projecting every day for about a week straight. On the fifth or sixth day, I was able to reach the vibration stage for the first time. I believe I was able to reach this stage because since I was extremely relaxed at the time, I was patient enough to not anxiously wait for any stages if that makes any sense. I simply let things happen as I was laying down. I would sometimes attempt AP as long as two hours.

After that week, I began my summer job working at a warehouse and it was extremely tiring. I tried to AP when I got home from work but I fell asleep every time. I decided to wait until I was done working but now I am out of the country. I tried APing here in Turkey, but now I find that I am having an extremely hard time relaxing. Even while meditating, I simply get impatient after ten or fifteen minutes.

I used to naturally be very good with patience but it seems that lately it has been slipping away. Does anyone have any tips that I may use to help grow my patience?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2016, 14:32:56 »

My guess is that maybe, You are not so relaxed compared to your "new" surroundings. It is like you're familiar with a place - your regular home - where you can you know... be on the toilet easily without distractions and at a different place, where you are new that is harder. Like you are watching for every little distractions or expecting sudden noises. Maybe simply you are not feeling that familiar feeling compared when you are really at home.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 21:39:18 »

My guess is that maybe, You are not so relaxed compared to your "new" surroundings. It is like you're familiar with a place - your regular home - where you can you know... be on the toilet easily without distractions and at a different place, where you are new that is harder. Like you are watching for every little distractions or expecting sudden noises. Maybe simply you are not feeling that familiar feeling compared when you are really at home.

That may be true but I was also experiencing some patience problems before I left for Turkey. I actually cut my meditation down from 25 - 30 minutes to 10 - 15 because I couldn't clearly focus my mind and I was being easily distracted.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 21:52:45 »

That may be true but I was also experiencing some patience problems before I left for Turkey. I actually cut my meditation down from 25 - 30 minutes to 10 - 15 because I couldn't clearly focus my mind and I was being easily distracted.

I use various music tracks for impatience. Maybe you need to make it more interesting. It could be an issue that you still not get used to the new surroundings maybe and it will be much better over time. Or it could be useful to do more but shorter AP tryings  : ) I think there is a need for an external tool to keep your focus inside you (music). I can give you some more guess or talk about it in PM further if you would like to.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2016, 01:29:46 »

I used to naturally be very good with patience but it seems that lately it has been slipping away. Does anyone have any tips that I may use to help grow my patience?
Learn to relax again. This can be done with techniques like "progressive relaxation" and as Phildan1 has stated is very easy to achieve with the help of "relaxing" music. Try a couple of the songs on this playlist. They are almost guaranteed to relax you.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehf82-mUiWg&index=60&list=PL48627FA5F1896833
 Song 54 is excellent. It uses Alpha to Delta brainwaves. Just start the video, lie back in a comfortable chair, close your eyes and relax, release, let go.  wink
 I really enjoy the combination of song 41 Facing the Unknown and 42 Taken up into the Sky. Back to back they put me in a great state of mind to Phase/project.
 Paul Collier is a Adept at composing!  smiley
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2016, 12:56:15 »

Learn to relax again. This can be done with techniques like "progressive relaxation" and as Phildan1 has stated is very easy to achieve with the help of "relaxing" music. Try a couple of the songs on this playlist. They are almost guaranteed to relax you.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehf82-mUiWg&index=60&list=PL48627FA5F1896833
 Song 54 is excellent. It uses Alpha to Delta brainwaves. Just start the video, lie back in a comfortable chair, close your eyes and relax, release, let go.  wink
 I really enjoy the combination of song 41 Facing the Unknown and 42 Taken up into the Sky. Back to back they put me in a great state of mind to Phase/project.
 Paul Collier is a Adept at composing!  smiley

Nice Lumaza : ) I also recommend "pink noise". There are some tracks on youtube. Some of them is like you are listening to rain fall or fountain.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2016, 14:53:53 »

Lumaza idea is spot on.   You will have to learn to relax again.   It will very likely take time to get where you were before so you will have to be patient.   Start slowly and gradually build up your time.   Do it slowly otherwise you could get frustrated and may make things worse.   
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2016, 17:48:05 »

Alright I will definitely give those a shot. Thank you all for the quick and useful responses.
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