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Author Topic: I've been trying for over a year, and never had vibrations.  (Read 1097 times)
Alan McDougall
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2008, 19:10:15 »

Hi

Maybe if you would stop trying and relax it will happen spontaneously

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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2008, 21:53:21 »

I think it's easier to have a partner who practices it aswell. You have someone close you can talk to and it stops u from getting frustrated and keeps you calm, focused and determined. I'm not a very patient person, but after talking with my friend i had an extremely positive attitude and strived for a "perfect" projection =). and eventually i got one!
Don't give in and face up to the enjoyable challenge i say! =)
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2008, 00:56:33 »

Really good advice!

Only thing I'd like to add is 'stop trying so hard'. This was my problem initially, I'd plan every step into a detailed plan. I got so caught up in doing every step right that I lost sight of the bigger picture. Projection/phasing/OBE whatever you want to call it is an inbuilt natural ability everyone has. Nowadays I just relax and 'enjoy the show', for me-the less I try, the more I succeed.

Embodied words,

I understand what you are going through. 

What I learned is that astral projection (phasing) cannot be forced at all.  You have to reach the right state of consciousness.  Once you have, the transition is probably the easiest, most natural thing you will ever do.  Its as simple as moving.  But to be honest, I have never in my life achieved an out of body experience through meditation or trances.  The only way it works for me (quite well) is when I basically go to sleep knowing that I want to phase.  At some point I become conscious in a near sleep state, and I know that I can slip out of my body.  I start moving slowly at first and then I just take off.  Its a lot easier to do than it is to explain. 

I would not waste my time with the literature because it has not helped me at all.  Tomorrow morning when you wake from a dream, don't move.  Just go back to sleep with the idea that everything will work out.  Don't try to stay conscious, don't do energy work, don't think just know what you want and try to fall asleep.  You'll know when the moment is right because you have probably done it before, you just don't remember.  The only way to get anywhere is to just try, reading can distort your beliefs and limit your ability.  Feel your way to your goal.

The most important think is to not force it.  If its not going to happen, its not.  Sometime you will reach a point that just feels 100% right and you will know what to do and when.  Trust me, I've tried all these methods.  I've read so much material.  I've wasted so much time.

If you spent just a little more time trying to find the right state of consciousness, or to allow that state to find you, you would move towards success.  Once you know what to look for, it does become easier.  I had an idea of what astral projection was from reading stuff, and I was searching for that instead of using my instinct, my intention, and patience to allow myself to openly receive an experience without the distorted expectation.  That is when I left my body, and now, I can allow it happen whenever I please.  No rush, no thought, just will.

The best thing you can do is forget everything you've read, and rediscover what you already now.  Forget about astral projection and search for an experience.  It will come to you if you ask for it.  But you have to receive it when it comes, so be open to anything that happens and trust your intuition.  The instructions to a successful out of body experience can only be found in yourself, written in feeling.  Intellectual concepts and language are too mechanical to explain these feelings, so they won't do you service.  I promise the answer is so simple that you will look back at these painful trials and laugh when you experience it.  Its so simple that words are to complex to describe it.

Knowledge can be confusing, and distracting.  Step back to the simplest thing that you know, intention, and remember how to astral project.

All that is required is will. 

Remotetouch
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 00:35:58 »

liam123, that sounds identical to my experiences, except I have never had a lucid dream OBE (I have many lucid dreams and have been very close, but I got scared the one time it was there)  How to you usually go about entering the astral from a dream?
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 19:46:13 »


Remote, did write a superb piece on getting over that huge issue of actually getting it done. I started with such a FIRE, I consumed books, it was endless. I meditated 6 hours at a time. I would keep going into relaxation, breathing, hypnosis, etc... until I was ill with it

Twice I've been over this exact scenario; becoming totally immersed in the subject, reading everything, being so intrigued and trying so hard... without success. I've never had an OBE, but since a couple of weeks when my third period of OBE-amazement began I decided to take on the same approach as RemoteTouch so neetly described. I'm glad I reached the same conclusion as you and I'm sure (I have to be!) that I'll have my OBE soon!
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