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moker
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2011, 13:26:08 »

Yes, to me it is very much a mind world that we enter upon separation.  When we are moving out, we are not really moving out because physical space is irrelevant there.  Space in the Phase is a thought like everything else, it is a different reality there.  There are some instances where we do appear to share it and they may prove telepathic one day. It is even possible that our minds are quantum entangled and thus why many OOBE visits bring validations.  It may be true that it even exists in its own right apart from the physical, who knows.  The Phase reality COULD be where we will reside when we die physically, but, Monroe had no right to state it as a fact without concrete proof.  This is where he made a mistake.

Objective vs Subjective...absolutely.  I will agree with one thing that Campbell has said though...all that is experienced, including the physica reality, is subjective.



Then we agree that until now the best explanation for this phenomana is that it is a mind world.
I think that dreams are portals to that mind world (dream world).
When whe dream we do not create that dream consciously that is why i think that we end up there unconsciously.
That is why i have the gut feeling that the mental rundown is the best technique.
Because i think that when you do a mental rundown, you are creating a dream consciously then you end up there consciously.

Until now i have trained the mental rundown for 3 days.
Every afternoon a hour and every night an hour until now.
I hope that i will get results soon.
Then maybe we can talk again.
To have a high value conversation by sharing my results with you.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2011, 21:13:24 »

Yes, the Phase could be said to be a mental world where we are consciously aware.  There is a good chance that we are all part of one mind, one mind only, and hence why collective experiences may be possible.  Perhaps not all thought forms perceived in the Phase are yours as an individual.  I've had some experiences that suggest that, upon having 'separated' from the body and having entered the Phase, I encountered the dreams or mental material of others after moving out of my metaphysical abode (inaccurate replica of the house).

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"Reality is a full-void. We experience what fills it because we are the void itself. Intrinsically, we are empty awareness." - Summerlander

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