Planar Destruction

[kurtykurt42]

Most people come here in search of truths and fallacies instead of experience. They are more worried about the right and wrong, the true and the false, white and black etc. Very few seek to just experience. This is really quite a bizarre forum when it comes to open-mindedness. People will promote things such as astral projection/phasing which is not "scientifically" proven or generally accepted as being "real" but will shun other experiences due to the mere fact that they have themselves not experienced it and validated it for themselves. This is what I call being selectively open-minded (which to me seems a paradox) and it seems to be the main train of thought around here.

I'm pretty sure most people are here to have OBEs and share there experiences. I'm one of the few that are here to understand how it works. If you want to read about experiences, go read my posts from last year...

[dotster]

You're right I should not have said most. I will do that, I am always interested in reading others experiences, that's mostly why I'm here.

[Darklon]

I'm here for all your reasons and more lol.

By my grandfather being delusional I mean he is a heartless bastard that doesn't care for a single human being other than himself, he told me himself that I don't matter to him and nor does anyone else, all he cares about is himself. He is a true selfish azzhole who has only one care in the world and he would've been better off in the facility, that is the kind of person that belongs in one. He has numerous other mental problems and don't think for one second is being misunderstood, he would kill you, me, his own family, and the rest of the world if it got him what he wanted. I wish I killed him the minute he threatened to smash my head in the concrete and almost left me stranded a Floridian ghetto far from any place considered 5% decent. Good thing Grandma left me with a phone to call her in case that shite happened.

[Chaos Mage]

I've heard the warning about fantasy and day dreaming, "Avoid phantasy before humiliation becomes a daily fact."  and there is more to it but I don't remember right now.  It goes on to speak about the fact that phantasy will blind you to what is obvious, it distorts reality and can make you 'delusional'.

I don't think that phantasy IS astral projection.  It isn't even dreaming.  I have, however, had certain experiences which is the reason why I continue to promote it.  Apparently, if you build up enough energy, you can get your 'conscious momentum' really going.  However, this is a conscious momentum 'away' from baseline.

But when you've got a fully integrated memory and can think without langauge and have precognitive intuitions every moment of your wakeful day, plus phantasy and learning in school, you'd prolly believe it too!  It's just a matter of using what brain you have, and you can't do it without the animation of memory to sustain the matrix of the moments that built you up to this point.  I think part of why people die is because they fail to use their full potential.  It's been said that humans have the ability to become 'demonic/angelic' which if you've ever seen an angel, is the same thing.  It's just that one has feather wings, the other has more like bat wings, leathery flesh wings.  Perhaps these are just different stages of development?

Phantasy won't take you to that place, where you are physically flying through the sky and visiting the Moon and going deeper and deeper into space. When you are in deep space, that's when phantasy comes into play, actually.  Because then, you can surround yourself with the arcane energies of existence, projecting visual phantasms and all such things, and create a world around yourself, rather than within.

Here on Earth, there is just too much that already exists.  Too many signals getting in the way of a clear manifestation.  Anything that tries to phantasy is drawn into confusion, loss of memory, and actual delusional thinking.  If you persist with it long enough, yes, you can 'over ride' reality, most people are not looking to do that, they want their life to be free from an exertion of that quality and magnitude.

Sorry, I get a little rude sometimes.  Too many people accuse me of being stupid and out of touch with reality.  But I hear voices in the wind, I can interpret sound in a way that people do not seem to understand.  I'm not out of the game just yet, or whatever you would call it.  Certainly, there are many misleading doctrines, and I think that the doctrines of most of the elders on this forum are actually informative and provide reliable advice for reaching altered states of consciousness.  Phantasy is another one of those means.

The Brainwave is only as alive as your own state of awareness.  It includes the ideas, personalities, and objects that you are focusing.  They 'exist' in your mental plane, and can become very real with specific formations in magick.  I heard last night that a true Buddha can have multiple real time astrals manifest on the physical plane, doing things and replicating the Buddha and his will.  Makes sense to me!