Question about time spent phasing

[Lionheart]

 I have a question for the people here that are visiting the Astral Plane regularly. When I phase I am in the Astral for about 10-20 mins physical time. After that I end up in the 3D dark zone for the rest of the time. Can you go back immediately or do you have to reboot the process entirely from the start? It now takes me anywhere from 10-15 mins to get there, then another 10-20 mins there, but then I just sit in the 3D dark zone and watch, but nothing else ever happens, other than just kind of floating and feeling good. Am I wasting my time or is that all you can see at a time? I have changed my intent/visual to a new scene but with no avail. Could it possibly be my own fear of not being able to remember my experience, since I write down all that I have seen in that session?
 

[Xanth]

Instead of thinking about changing your intent... try visualizing where it is you want to go. 

[Lionheart]

 Ryan I mean I have problems getting back there again. My question should have been how long do you stay in the Astral before you can't maintain it anymore? I have my visuals, then I decide to end the session. Before that I will just float in the 3D zone. On a couple of occasions I have after floating I have changed my visual intent, but I can't maintain it for longer than a couple of seconds. Could this be because of fatigue? My sessions normally last about an hour. 10-15 working on towards the Phase, 15-20 in the zone than about 20-25 mins just relaxing in 3D darkness. I came to the conclusions on the timing of this due to how far I am in my Isochronic Tones MP3.

[Xanth]

Ryan I mean I have problems getting back there again. My question should have been how long do you stay in the Astral before you can't maintain it anymore? I have my visuals, then I decide to end the session. Before that I will just float in the 3D zone. On a couple of occasions I have after floating I have changed my visual intent, but I can't maintain it for longer than a couple of seconds. Could this be because of fatigue? My sessions normally last about an hour. 10-15 working on towards the Phase, 15-20 in the zone than about 20-25 mins just relaxing in 3D darkness. I came to the conclusions on the timing of this due to how far I am in my Isochronic Tones MP3.

For me, once I'm coming out of an experience and I go through that Black Void... it's an almost immediate shift back to the physical.  Now, if I can notice this shift occurring, I can usually keep my eyes closed and my body still upon waking, then shift back almost immediately.

I don't really know what controls the duration of the experience really.  I think it has something to do with your focus, but I really don't know.

[Rudolph]

I have a question for the people here that are visiting the Astral Plane regularly. When I phase I am in the Astral for about 10-20 mins physical time. After that I end up in the 3D dark zone for the rest of the time. Can you go back immediately or do you have to reboot the process entirely from the start? It now takes me anywhere from 10-15 mins to get there, then another 10-20 mins there, but then I just sit in the 3D dark zone and watch, but nothing else ever happens, other than just kind of floating and feeling good. Am I wasting my time or is that all you can see at a time? I have changed my intent/visual to a new scene but with no avail. Could it possibly be my own fear of not being able to remember my experience, since I write down all that I have seen in that session?

I go back immediately, within seconds or something less than a minute... usually... of course there are the exceptions. Three and often 5 or 6 times.

The first projection is usually the longest.

If I project several days in a row even the first will be shorter in duration. It seems to take about a week or two to fully recharge.

[light487]

I go back immediately, within seconds or something less than a minute... usually... of course there are the exceptions. Three and often 5 or 6 times.

The first projection is usually the longest.

If I project several days in a row even the first will be shorter in duration. It seems to take about a week or two to fully recharge.

I find a similar thing in my practises. If I don't do anything "actively" for a few days and then I find some spare time to practise, when I get this Binaural beats running it's so strong and focused though no success as yet.. but if I do that every day.. the effects of the Binaural beats or even practise without audio wanes dramatically..

[travilanche]

I'm curious as to how long some of you attempt a phase before you decide it is time to give up?  I haven't achieved getting into the phase yet, but I still am feeling something.  I usually do attempts from around 15-30 minutes.  Is this too long, or not long enough, or just right? 

[light487]

From all the accounts I have read by the "masters" (hehe.. don't know how else to refer to them), if you don't get anything within 20mins, then anything longer is pointless.. however... there are also a lot of people who say it takes them longer.. so I think that 15 mins is a little too short and 30mins is probably a good average.. but there's nothing really wrong with an hour either.. whatever works and feels comfortable to you.

I think that it would also depend on how much "response" you are getting from your endeavours.. so.. if after 20mins you are still making no progress, maybe a good indication that your mind isn't in the right space and to get up, do something else for a while and then return later to try again. However if you are getting some "signs" of progress then there's no reason to stop just because of some time limit..