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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2006, 21:41:53 »

I tried it with white ping pong balls just now and it worked just as well as with my red pair.

A handy tip: Put blu tack around the edge of the ping pong ball eyepieces. This will help keep them stuck to your eyes while blocking out unwanted light, and it's also quite comfortable.

As for light intensity, i've found that sitting directly under a lamp hinders the effect. I just lie on my bed with the ceiling light on, and everything works great.

Each time i do this, the visuals become more defined and more intense. Good stuff.
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2006, 22:01:26 »

So is the inside of the balls truly white? When I do it with less intense light, it's all beige Shocked

EDIT: Something that preoccupies me is that I can't seem to stay concentrated. The cause is simple: keeping your eyes open too long hurts. I feel something coming (like the beginning of hypnogogic images), but as soon as I blink, it just goes away...

Another thing that's a potential concern is... Will my eyes close on their own after a while, or will I wake up the next day with dual pink eye?
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2006, 19:47:48 »

Quote from: kiwibonga
Another thing that's a potential concern is... Will my eyes close on their own after a while, or will I wake up the next day with dual pink eye?


Ha you'll probably wake up screaming "I' blind, I'm blind" before realizing that you still have them on.  :justkidding:
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2006, 20:01:26 »

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So is the inside of the balls truly white? When I do it with less intense light, it's all beige Shocked

EDIT: Something that preoccupies me is that I can't seem to stay concentrated. The cause is simple: keeping your eyes open too long hurts. I feel something coming (like the beginning of hypnogogic images), but as soon as I blink, it just goes away...

Another thing that's a potential concern is... Will my eyes close on their own after a while, or will I wake up the next day with dual pink eye?


beige would be a sufficient description i guess.

Are your eyepieces air tight? Mine are, and, while my eyes hurt after a long while, i can still keep them open for 20 minutes or so without closing them. When i take the eyepieces off they have condensation on the inside. So i'm guessing as long as your eyes stay clean and moist, you can keep them open for a long time.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2006, 20:30:43 »

Sumday,

Thats another problem with the ping pong balls -condesation. The goggles I have leave a little bit, but there's breathing areas for ventilation. Another thing is if you roll around in bed, the corners of the ping pong balls could come off exposing the sharp edges which usually isn't good for the eyes..

Honestly, you should thinkof another approach then ping pong balls. You could also try a eye pillow or a eye mask.

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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2006, 17:36:39 »

I use a eye mask and I find it very effective. Not only does it keep out any unwanted light it also aids in keeping your eyes closed. Also on the plus side anything I 'see' ie my room, while trying to AP means that I did not use my physical eyes.
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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2006, 19:45:58 »

I support Dragonhawk with the face mask. There have been so many times that I've projected and I'd have duality physical and astral that it can sometimes interrupt the experience.

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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2006, 23:10:33 »

I'd never use the ping pong balls for projection. For starters i've only projected twice, and those have been very brief without me even getting out of my room. So i don't have enough success to consider such a thing possible.

But mostly i don't want to fall asleep wearing them. Nor would i want to fall asleep wearing goggles. A facemask would be nice, but i don't have one. Having my room pitch black seems to work fine. But that's another topic. This one is about the ganzfeld effect, which i'm currently finding very useful for normal meditation.
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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2006, 12:51:52 »

The whole goal of ganzfield effect is to stare at a white-tish background and zone out, almost like a snow blinding effect which alters your awareness. The ping pong balls can create that effect but its not sufficient and too close to the eyelids which will just cause strain. The best results is either the goggles I mentioned earlier or use a color sheet of paper to isolate.

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