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« on: August 25, 2011, 02:22:19 »

okay this is a very difficult, if not impossible thing to really explain very well.  But I'll of course try the best i can to explain it anyway because I'm certainly very curious about this one.  Several times in the last while, as I decide to do any meditation, communication with guides, any other metaphysical or spiritual thing, (call it what you will,) and certainly sometimes when I am intent an trying to notice when I've fallen asleep I will find I am aware of getting closer and closer to sleeping and of drifting off.  This is typically obviously by the fact that the mind begins to produce senseless thoughts, images that make little sense and strings of unrelated and somewhat silly ideas in quick succession.  I have no doubt in my mind at all that everyone does this as we fall asleep.  I just happen to notice it because I've been training myself to notice it.

Anyway, lately though, as I begin to really notice all this, and it of course becomes harder and harder to really stay conscious of it, (that of course is reaching the point of falling right into sleep,)  I will very suddenly feel quite wide awake again.  It's different though.  Not a state of being really awake and thinking that perhaps I should get up, or roll over because I'm uncomfortable or anything.  I can't actually explain how it feels but it's just a bit different from true wakefulness as we know it.  Sometimes the rapidness with which I go from that state of drifting off and losing awareness, to suddenly becoming very aware again is startling.  I've though before that something might have woken me up, such as perhaps a door slamming in the hallway, or a car starting loudly outside, but I never actually hear anything and it happens too often now to be any of that.  One night when this happened I just knew that my own mind had woken itself up, if that makes a hint of sense.  But why? 

I might be asking a stupid question here, but of course there are few truly stupid questions.  Is this something that happens to everyone?  What is it?  is this a good thing or just a typical harmless falling asleep thing.  I have no worry at all that it's actually bad or harmful.  LoL, why would it be.  No harm done really.  I just end up changing positions and falling asleep.                 
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 02:50:40 »

A summary would be nice  smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 15:20:56 »

Several times in the last while, as I decide to do any meditation, communication with guides, any other metaphysical or spiritual thing, (call it what you will,) and certainly sometimes when I am intent an trying to notice when I've fallen asleep I will find I am aware of getting closer and closer to sleeping and of drifting off.  This is typically obviously by the fact that the mind begins to produce senseless thoughts, images that make little sense and strings of unrelated and somewhat silly ideas in quick succession.  I have no doubt in my mind at all that everyone does this as we fall asleep.  I just happen to notice it because I've been training myself to notice it.
This is what meditators call 'monkey mind' and it's natural.  It's what happens behind the scenes as we memorize our experiences.  We only become aware of it when we silence our conscious minds.

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Anyway, lately though, as I begin to really notice all this, and it of course becomes harder and harder to really stay conscious of it, (that of course is reaching the point of falling right into sleep,)  I will very suddenly feel quite wide awake again.  It's different though.  Not a state of being really awake and thinking that perhaps I should get up, or roll over because I'm uncomfortable or anything.  I can't actually explain how it feels but it's just a bit different from true wakefulness as we know it.  Sometimes the rapidness with which I go from that state of drifting off and losing awareness, to suddenly becoming very aware again is startling.  I've though before that something might have woken me up, such as perhaps a door slamming in the hallway, or a car starting loudly outside, but I never actually hear anything and it happens too often now to be any of that.  One night when this happened I just knew that my own mind had woken itself up, if that makes a hint of sense.  But why? 
This does happen to almost everyone (or at least many people) and it can be a side effect of meditation- but it also can be because of a delayed reaction to a noise.
For some reason we don't actually perceive things when they happen (this has been shown in lab tests by brain scientists a few times) and this is most obvious when we sleep.  If you want to, you can make a mean experiment (I've done it with both my husband and son, hee hee  evil )  Wait until someone is deeply asleep, make a sudden noise and then count.  They won't wake up at the moment you make the noise, but they will react (by moving, changing breathing rhythm  or waking up.)  If the noise is loud enough to wake them they'll do the whole startled awake thing- but not when the noise happens, approximately three or four seconds later.

Anyway, no worries.


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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2011, 02:13:47 »

In regards to this "time delay" thing.. I have been thinking about the "increased heart rate" phenom. that happens with projection and I am wondering whether it is simply a matter of time, as we are aware of it physically, changing to a different rate to how we perceive it astrally? So when in fact your heart is beating fast, it is actually just the same or actually slower because your body is more relaxed but as you perceive it astrally, it is going fast?
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