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Author Topic: Beelzebub's Astral Projection techniques question  (Read 2883 times)
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« on: November 18, 2003, 02:55:21 »

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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2003, 13:25:34 »

Hi!
If you talk about the free online courses on the www.mysticweb.org, yes they are excellent. They were very useful to me and some of my friends signed in too. There is no reason for you not to sign in, really. I have a success in OBE using the tehniques given there. Try it! [|)]
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2003, 00:48:06 »

Thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2003, 02:38:58 »

I bought the book and then took the free on-line course and found the course to be very helpful.  I believe that the course is better because it has been up-dated since the book was printed and seems to be more current than the book, plus on-line Instructors make themselves available to answer any questions you may have as you progress thru the course.  Hope this is helpful. Good luck.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2003, 23:32:53 »

Hi,

 Well I have serious doubts about the Mysticweb course, if you read beelzebub's profile "He believes he is the reeincarnation of Satan", then you are taking the course with the Prince of Darkness...



 Here the link http://www.gnosticweb.com/

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2003, 17:54:22 »

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He believes he is the reeincarnation of Satan

[:O]Insert, I did not know that satan was dead... [Wink]

PS: BTW, there is suddenly so much info about the Gnostic people in the AP forum...  Weird.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2003, 19:00:06 »

It seems that they are starting their classes again, guess that is why all the hoopla has reared it's ugly head again.

A while back, there was a VERY long discussion on the forums about Beezlebub.  It had to be removed because Mr. Beezlebub did not like people saying anything negative about him and his, so he yelled Lawsuit..in my opinion..seems like he has something to hide.

Follow your instincts is all I have to say. [^]

Personally I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole..[Tongue]

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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2003, 15:13:28 »

hello, i would definitly recommend the any of the courses, i have taken the astral course and it was excellent, i am currently taking the self knowledge course and it is just as good as the astral course, i plan on taking all 4 of them, i do not beleive VM Belzebub is "the prince of darkness" in fact he tells alot about Good and Evil, and is quite obviously on the Good side.  You can aways take the course and if u do not like it then just quit
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2003, 15:55:06 »

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Originally posted by Nagual

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He believes he is the reeincarnation of Satan

[:O]Insert, I did not know that satan was dead... [Wink]

PS: BTW, there is suddenly so much info about the Gnostic people in the AP forum...  Weird.



First of all entities like satan dont reincarnate, they inhabit bodies and are in full control of themselves.
Secondly If he was satan he wouldnt be wasting his time with a piddly little astral travel class.
Thirdly satan is an energy and perhaps he is manifesting the energy but he is NOT Satan.

I think the guy is some insecure loser who wants to compensate by wanting peopl to beleive hes satan. LOL!
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2003, 03:42:18 »

this guy believes in reincarnation he says first off satan and bezelbub are not the same entity satan is satan but bezelbub was a person that lived on this earth that was evil.  Long story short, he said there was a master samuel who was an ap'er saw bezelbub in the astral and somehow was able to bring him into the light and he was able to change.  I believe in that just like there are souls in purgatory we have the power on this earth to change their destiny.  He says it himself if you don't believe bezelbub is not evil anymore, go into the astral call upon bezelbub and do the negative entity banishing ritual on it and you will see he's not evil anymore but of the white lodge.  As for the courses they are awesome, I am taking the investigative course and already I had my FIRST conscious ap from it thanks to those two new techniques that he introduced the koan and duality technique which in short (read my other post) silence the mind.  If you don't think its worth the money take his online courses then after buy his book they're the same.  But I'd buy the book just to support the author cause his techniques work and the theory is straightforward as well.   He says it himself if you don't believe in anything I say investigate it yourself in the astral then you will know yourself to be true.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2003, 07:50:18 »

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Originally posted by aureilibri

Hi,
Has anyone read Beelzebub's "Experiencing Astral Travel: An 8 Week  Course" book or gone thru the online course? Are there any interesting techniques worth trying? I saw good reviews on Amazon, but I wanted to see if anyone had any comments about the book on this forum before buying it.
Thanks!



Hello, I was here awhile back when there was a lengthy beating of  the author so I decided to get his book and see what was up. I've read everything up to week 6 so far and find alot of what he has to say very interesting. I think his overall explanation of the astral to be very simplistic but that could be a good thing for someone just trying to grasp the concepts. As far as techniques yes I would say they have merit and are workable.

I was impressed with his notation of how most people go through their daily lives in a day dream and never really think about what they are doing. I think this idea is pretty much accurate and might explain why some people have more trouble with OOBE.

I've tried his heart exercise and have found it to generate the type of state needed for an OOBE.

Bottom line is that the book has some good information and will help you learn things you need to know but I wouldn't use it as a sole reference. I would recommend reading Robert Bruce's book Astral Dynamic's, William Buhlman's book The secret of the soul and also the books by Robert Monroe. I strongly feel that each one of these people have a piece of the puzzle.

As far as him being the devil, well I think people get alittle too willing to hate someone who has something different to say that doesn't fall in line with what they think they know. I would also say shame on those people who would get on the band wagon which is what happened on this site awhile back.

I would tell you to follow and do what you feel is right.
I hope this gives you some help

-luke
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2003, 07:55:12 »

quote:
Originally posted by Hyperdimensional

Hi,

 Well I have serious doubts about the Mysticweb course, if you read beelzebub's profile "He believes he is the reeincarnation of Satan", then you are taking the course with the Prince of Darkness...
 Here the link http://www.gnosticweb.com/
Best regards


Hey honestly I'd love to take a coarse with the prince of darkness. I'm sure he'd have alot of really good wisdom he'd let slip out imbetween all the "you must bow down to me" bits..

As is with everything one point of reference is never a good idea.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2003, 02:20:06 »

Hi,

Has anyone read Beelzebub's "Experiencing Astral Travel: An 8 Week  Course" book or gone thru the online course? Are there any interesting techniques worth trying? I saw good reviews on Amazon, but I wanted to see if anyone had any comments about the book on this forum before buying it.

Thanks!
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