Underwater - projections into future? - 2012

[CFTraveler]

i'm going to have to disagree with you a little on that one cftraveler, i think the first thing that will happin is the galactic alignment yes, but because of this other planets, stars, comets, and so forth will too be "merging" so to speak with the galactic center, some may mention a super black hole and such and truth of that is yes they exist, and if you would like to know what a super black hole is it's a galactic rift,

  Sources, please?
Or let me put it differently- Why would a galactic alignment cause other planets (that are not already inline) to merge with a black hole that is already there?

If I have a planet next to me and it pulls, let's say 20 units of gravity (I'm obviously making this up) and there's a black hole 30 parsecs away from me- what gravitational difference can the planet make to me if it becomes aligned in any way (there are infinite ways to be in-line with any object) with the black hole?  The fact that the planet is now on angle a or b is not going to add or subtract to whatever gravitational pull at me, if I'm far enough for me.
And we do know that black holes are not eternal, they do not swallow things indefinitely, because they emit certain types of radiation, so that there is a time limit to how much they can swallow.
Sure, if I'm close enough to the black hole in terms of it's lifetime it'll eventually suck me in- but if I'm far enough from it, the time it takes to get to the region of space where I'm at may be too much to it's sucking ability, given that it does have a lifetime.  If the planet that was to my left is now to my right is also far enough from it, it doesn't make any gravitational difference to it's effect on me, or my mass probably won't affect it in terms of vulnerability to it being sucked in.
Now, if we're both close enough to be sucked, in terms of it's original power and the time it has to get me, where planet a or b are in terms of what we call 'alignment' won't really make much difference, if any.

As to super-black holes, my understanding of them is that they start out as massive stars, so massive that they suck everything around them to begin with.  The question is, why is our black hole going to become a super-black hole according how planets line up with it from where we're looking? 

I have said before that ideologically, I have no problem accepting that there is some sort of 'awakening' happening, and that there may be forces in the universe at play to make it happen.  I also have no problem believing that the universe is a very violent place and there is ample evidence to point out that prior lifeforms on earth have become extinct because of such violence, such as meteor showers, possible visits by protoplanets, and other manner of large-scale destruction, and that chances are that it's going to happen again- at any time.

But what I don't understand is why some organizations have made it their career  taking science and twisting it to make it seem that some horrible disaster is about to happen, at a predetermined time of their choosing, to suit ideological or religious paradigms, and do it by ignoring known physical laws.

[Vice]

I do agree with many skeptics that the world will not end in 2012 nor will mankind, but I do believe it will bring an end to the world figuratively as we know it.

[SnakeDoctor]

i side with CF here

[kurai kokoro]

oh just causing disbelief in certain theories so that others could think further outside the box, it's simply through disbelief the truth could be reviled for ~wisdom begins in wonder~ socrates

BTW ever heard of a galaxy devouring other galaxies? if not then just so you know it's happining know, so scientist believe, i think that when this is done then our planet will then align but that still wouldn't fit the Mayan or Nostradamus predictions would it? i mean as we both know how stars work and all (earlier i was just causing disbelief for a more perspective look.) that would take at least another Melina or so to complete would it not? i think it would. so knowing this we could only assume that the 2012 thing is the beginning date, not the end.

~the presant becomes the future the the future becomes the past and the past becomes the presant. a true cycle for everything an action and reaction too has cycle.~ if a star goes nova then it can be reborn, if a star turns black and devourers it could indeed be relit into a star, so if a galaxy expands, it too can contract. if the universe expands it to can contract with the galaxies re-merging. mirai-wo zurto saki dayo. translation: the future is before us.
one of many truthes is this, somethings expand, others contract, things live and then die and when things die it brings new life, "space the final frontier" this means space is the last thing we must learn from, untell our asenction "to explore strange new worlds to seek out new life and new civilizations." to spread throughout the universe discovering our otherselves while living out there. "to boldly go where no man has gone before." to be brave throughout our quest of learning without faulter weather it's dangerous or not. "live long and prosper, peace and long life." exactly what it means, gene rodenberry was a true genius and the proof is incoded within startrek.

and here is a poem if anyone wants to read it.
I wake up to a world of darkness and falling rain hits my face.
standing,to see not but a fire of a burning village.
in wonder whats happining. i'm cunfused and
shocked that my home is finaly gone. but my home isn't relly gone.
it just seems so natral that this would happin and i'm uncertain as to what i
should do. it's like i'm frozen but it's so hot in the middle of this fire.
the rain still falls hoping to tame the flame. but the fire still burns.
it's resistant and merciless. i cannot stop it. i am traped and lonely.
everyones dead. and soon i will be to. but i don't want to die like this.
this day was such a marvel but now it seems so insignificet to even try
living on. my house burnt down and my passion for art is
extinquished. i'm unsure what i will do. but now it doesn't matter. i watch in horror as i
see not a living thing is left to see. while the fire burns my body
mind soul and heart. i am finaly going to rest.
but i can't fall asleep not just yet. it feels so good though i am in pain. if i keep this pleasure of the pain i'm reciving then i will surly die.
i fall to the ground and finaly see that my life even if i'm dead will continue through others that come this way. and i am happy for only that. and shed not of a tear, but of a smile.

[Apollon]

I really don't know what to believe anymore about 2012.
There are so many things that are being said all the time.

There is also an Orthodox priest here (I'm in Greece) that has written a book about it.... he is certain that this (2012) is the year that the antichrist will make his first appearance on earth as he's already been born in 1982 and will rule the whole world for 3.5 years. After that the second coming will happen and christ will win and rule the world for 7 years. Finally after that the world will come to an end and eternal life will commence. He sais he came up to this conclusion after intense study of the holy scriptures and St John's reveration.

I mean, there are SO many different things being said all the time. I believe nothing will happen in the end.

[kurai kokoro]

I really don't know what to believe anymore about 2012.
There are so many things that are being said all the time.

There is also an Orthodox priest here (I'm in Greece) that has written a book about it.... he is certain that this (2012) is the year that the antichrist will make his first appearance on earth as he's already been born in 1982 and will rule the whole world for 3.5 years. After that the second coming will happen and christ will win and rule the world for 7 years. Finally after that the world will come to an end and eternal life will commence. He sais he came up to this conclusion after intense study of the holy scriptures and St John's reveration.
I mean, there are SO many different things being said all the time. I believe nothing will happen in the end.

it also says in the bible that after the end then there would be a new heaven and a new earth.
also there could be many different theories, many different beliefs, many so called truths that people can tell you, the only thing you should believe is that were ever the truth is you should find it withen yourself.

[silentfox]

hmm i was reading this and some one said pole shifts might occur this brought to mind the theory that sense humans have their own magnetic field a dramatic shift in magnetisum could cause brain damage... just a thought.

besides wouldnt the earths core have to stop rotating and reverse to switch polarity??/

if you ask me im not worried if it happenes it does if it doesnt then nice to know i didnt lose any sleep over it
people should stop worrying about the future and live in the now

cheers all   

[CFTraveler]

hmm i was reading this and some one said pole shifts might occur this brought to mind the theory that sense humans have their own magnetic field a dramatic shift in magnetisum could cause brain damage... just a thought.

Why would a magnetic shift cause brain damage?  The em field in the body is not directional in the same way the whole earth's em field is.  Plus the earth's magnetic field changes all the time, and we don't even notice.  The animals that use em fields to travel (flock animals, like birds and bees) get confused when it's time to migrate, but that has nothing to do with brain function.

besides wouldnt the earths core have to stop rotating and reverse to switch polarity??/

It could change phases (the direction in which it's rotating).  I'm pretty sure it already does this.

if you ask me im not worried if it happenes it does if it doesnt then nice to know i didnt lose any sleep over it
people should stop worrying about the future and live in the now

cheers all   

I agree.

[silentfox]

lol thanks for correcting me now i know a little bit more about the world then i did XD

now that i think abotu it that stuff completely slipped my mind