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« on: October 22, 2002, 12:08:57 »

if they were going to be loaned then would there be any problems morally from anyone if we could just send them over the net?  if i had them i would be willing to.  when i get them i will.

i'm not sure about the legality of this but believe it may be illegal, so obviously i'm joking about this entire post.  maybe we could jokingly upload them somewhere and jokingly tell only the people that actualy want them so we wouldn't have to worry about someone stumbling across it and jokingly put someone in jail. Smiley

but wouldn't it just be file sharing like imesh and the rest?

 
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2002, 16:43:22 »

Greetings Fred,

I understand where you are coming from, but we must keep this entirely on the straight and level.

If someone purchases goods, then they are perfectly at liberty to sell those goods onto someone else on a one to one basis which is what i am suggesting - or of course to loan those goods as one would a book for example.

I do think that copying and distributing would be outside the law, ad not something we can morally or ethically condone.

Thanks for your suggestions anyway http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2002, 16:54:45 »

The first thing would be for someone to get their hands on a copy of the Gateway CD collection. If we could set up a collection and collectively own a single copy, we could pass it around to the people who contributed. It would only take a week or two to get a feel for if the collection is worth paying full price to get the collection. Naturally we could not encourage ripping the CDs to MP3 and passing those around on CD by way of e-mail, direct connect, snail mail, etc. We could make up a list of people in order of most contribution to least to see who gets the CDs first.


 
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2002, 17:47:48 »

Greetings Tom!

Yes, I don't see any issues with having a "central" set of Gateway CD's between us, and for people to take turns with. How we organise it is a different matter. I think we only need the Wave 1 set anyway which costs about $99.  Better still, we could share an existing set that someone might have, and all contribute towards the cost.

Who would be interested, and how shall we do this?

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2002, 19:46:09 »

that would be great.  not only would the owner get almost all of the money back for the set but the rest of us would pay only a fraction of the price.   we could send the money along w/ the cd's when they get mailed to the next person and just have it accumulate until it gets back home.  no gambling w/ the gateway money. Smiley   the more people the more cost effecient it would be.  just make sure  the cd's are packaged and handled extremely well.  it's going to go through a few people before it gets returned and it would be nice to see them returned w/out a single new scratch.  it shouldn't be a problem w/ this group.  maybe we could decide who gets them first by  who wants them and the date they registered as a member on the forum?  who's got a set?

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2002, 19:55:52 »

Yes, the Wave 1 set probably would be enough. As someone trusted by all of us, Adrian, would you be willing to set up a PayPal account for the purpose of collecting money to buy a set for us? It is the 22nd now. Sometime next month I would be able to put in $10 or $15 for some time with a copy of Wave 1 at some point in the future. Smiley It hasn't been a good month.


 
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2002, 12:57:57 »

Greetings Tom,

I already have a PayPal account. We can't setup a seperate one because it needs to be associated with a bank account.

But I would gladly organise this. All we need to do is to gather our participants, and work out how much it will cost eachof us. If enyone else would like a "share", they just join in at that point pro-rata. If ti was a success, we could get the whole series maybe over time.

We need to discuss the logisics though. From what Frank has said (and if Frank is reading this perhaps he could confirm), it takes several months to achieve results. That means the fourth person could wait a year for a turn which might not be acceptable.

I like the ide very much, but we need to think about the details first.

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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2002, 14:15:02 »

You are right. The logistics would take time to work out. A year does not matter to me, actually. Over a year we might be able to get more than one copy to pass around of the Wave 1. That would be more complicated. One copy to start with is simpler. We can complicate matters as we go along. Although we could not encourage it, obviously some of us might be tempted to make copies and pass the CD(s) along faster than a matter of months.


 
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2002, 16:14:23 »

Yes this sounds like a great idea & like Tom said-some of us are capable of making copies (for our own use) so the CDs could go around pretty quick. Although the file sharing that Fredhedd mentioned seems a quicker & cheaper way. So there are 4 of us so far who want to do this? I know I'm last on the list. I've been working in my organic garden all summer & haven't been here since last year after reading Bruce's book.  
Also I don't have my paypal account anymore but I do have a C2it account-works like paypal. Or I can write a personal check, I'm in the US. OR, I could send you a WebCertificate for the amount-a WC works like a MasterCard that you can use online anywhere MC is accepted.
http://www.C2it.com
http://www.webcertificate.com


 
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2002, 17:10:37 »



Yes, it did take me quite a while. But please don't take that as any kind of yardstick. I truly do not have any kind of natural gift for obe work. As such, I often have to really fight for even the smallest of gains. But that's how I always am with most things, and have long since accepted that.

I imagine a younger person more into the technology could, once they got the basic rundown from the Wave 1 CD, could easily create their own CD complete with sound effects, etc. Which I am sure would be equally effective.

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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2002, 17:28:39 »

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Originally posted by Frank:
I imagine a younger person more into the technology could, once they got the basic rundown from the Wave 1 CD, could easily create their own CD complete with sound effects, etc. Which I am sure would be equally effective.



Which makes me wonder if other CDs for deep meditation would work as well? Here's one:
http://www.brainsync.com/titles/deepmeditate.asp


 
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2002, 17:44:54 »

Greetings Everyone!

Thank you as always Frank for your insight, and to Sandy for the suggested link.

I have another idea.

This excellent software for generating hemi-sync is free:

http://www.bwgen.com

And comes with a good number of presets, with a good many more available for a modest charge.

It would be possible to use an existing preset for theta work, and overlay the voice to an MP3.

What do you people think?

with best regards,

Adrian.


 
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2002, 21:36:27 »

Thanks Adrian,. I think that's great, gonna have to check it out when I have more time.
In the meantime I found this site with a downloadable demo (I also ordered the free sample CD from them, just have to pay shipping).
http://www.synchronicity.org/New_Visitors/Online_Demo.aspx

And found this site with some downloadable meditation music. http://artists.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/Meditation_Music/
(they have a whole slew of meditation music to download, just go to the main page & type meditation in the search box)

I don't know how good these musics will be for what we want to accomplish.

 
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2002, 22:54:45 »

This is a great idea.  What ever choice is made up about copying and purchasing the CDs, the benifits  would definitly  be worth a group price.   So, we would use paypal to gather the money for purchasing and purchase the CDs form  the Monroe Institute which  are sent to a person.

  After this person recieves the CDs makes a copy or whatnot then sends it to the next person.  And we could communitcate with eachother through  our personal E-mail or the E-mail on this site.

  Or,.....  someone could set up a file share somehow for downloading capabilities.    Sounds like a good plan.  





 
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2002, 23:33:21 »

everyone will have their own specific time frame that they are going to need to be able to use the cd's enough to get anything from them.  however, looking at this group of people and seeing how smart everyone is i don't see any reason why any one of us would need more time then ....oh i dunno say about the same amount of time it would take to make a copy of a music cd.  if i'm correct and everyone here is that smart then it shouldn't take more than a month to pass them around to whoever wants them.

 
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