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« on: July 18, 2008, 05:41:05 »

Both OBEs occured Wednesday, July 16, 2008
I have numbered and titled them ---
 #79 a and b "Clearly Out Of Body Twice"

Became conscious in the hypnagogic state and this included vibrations and sleep paralysis. Consciousness was not sharp at first yet I soon realized that it was a perfect opportunity to go out of body. So I tried to induce an OBE. And tried. And tried. And tried. For several minutes I just could not do it.
Then --- Finally Success ! I lifted directly up and out of my physical body. Almost immediately upon being OOB I attempted to go outside through a large window. This also proved to be very hard to do. It took several attempts before I was flying, hovering actually, about 20 - 30 feet up just outside the house. Here I started to lose it. After (mentally) fighting like hell to stay OOB I slipped back inside the house through the window. My physical body was only a few feet away. This was too close. I reintegrated and the OBE was over.

OBE #79b  Only moments after the first OBE ended the vibrations returned and were very strong. This time the separation was fast and easy. This time I found myself downstairs on the first floor back porch. I simply walked right out the back door (which was open though it was closed in the physical).
There I stood on the backyard deck. Suddenly a Japanese samurai sword appeared in my hands. (I had watched part of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon", including the beautiful flying and fighting scenes, last night.)
So I lifted up off the deck into the night sky.. Yet after going no more than 20 feet up I was obstructed by several large trees. I tried to avoid these trees but to no avail. They proved to be an unavoidable barrier that prematurely ended the OBE.
Notes -- Consciousness during both these OBEs was sharp and mostly crystal clear. This was quite unlike the dream-like state of a projection nearly two weeks ago. The time was between 3:00 and 3:30 AM. Duration of OBE #79a was 3 - 5 minutes, #79b was only 1 or 2 minutes. I lay on my right side.
Both OBEs were in Locale I, a familiar location. There were no persons or beings encountered. Both OBEs were Deliberate, had Sleep paralysis and Vibrations and Flight. I had Meditated earlier that night and had done extensive Pranayama during the day. The second OBE was Short and included a Barrier.

Thanx for reading

Grey
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2008, 22:18:50 »

Hey Grey, congrats on your OBEs and thanks for sharing.  I wonder why you couldn't go past the trees.  Long time ago, when I thought my OBEs were 'realistic' flying dreams which I 'directed', I used to come across barriers which were usually rooms occupied by people.  I have since learnt that humans are able to subconsciously create energy fields that serve as barriers, if they require privacy (know what I mean?). But I never came across barriers outdoors.  Interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 02:01:34 »

Hi Venus

Yes, barriers seem to take several forms including --

1) psychic fields deliberately created to ensure privacy.

2) energy fields, like Faraday cages and high voltage power lines. (Robert Monroe described several experiences with these.) and

3) physical objects including trees, doors, walls and windows. Usually these physical barriers can be overcome with forethought and effort. However, during my OBEs I had no plan of action or intent once OOB. So when I encountered the trees I found them much more formidable than they should have been.
In other words If I had a stronger motive to go over/get around those trees then I would have managed to do it. That may sound odd yet many people find simple barriers like doors and walls completely unpassable when OOB unless they have a strong motive to overcome them. Remember in the astral/ethereal realm thoughts are of prime importance. So lack of intent (= thought) means that all obstacles are harder to overcome.
Hope that makes sense.

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 02:10:17 »

GT,
Very well documented and exciting to read - thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2008, 01:47:37 »

Ah, this sounds amazing!! Yer vision when OOB seems much clearer than mine. How were you able to fly? I have been OOB a few times, and I've always noticed that I have a very hard time with flying.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2008, 17:02:38 »

embodied, I am quite the opposite.  Whenever I have OBE, I always seem to be flying.  For once I want to consciously walk out of my body and walk around my home.  rolleyes
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2008, 19:48:03 »

When I'm OOB I don't really have a body. Its more like I'm a tiny little dot of awareness. Like a soap bubble. ^.^ And I always seem to be close to the ground. Like at knee level.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2008, 21:43:03 »

Hi Venus

Yes, barriers seem to take several forms including --

1) psychic fields deliberately created to ensure privacy.

2) energy fields, like Faraday cages and high voltage power lines. (Robert Monroe described several experiences with these.) and

3) physical objects including trees, doors, walls and windows. Usually these physical barriers can be overcome with forethought and effort. However, during my OBEs I had no plan of action or intent once OOB. So when I encountered the trees I found them much more formidable than they should have been.
In other words If I had a stronger motive to go over/get around those trees then I would have managed to do it. That may sound odd yet many people find simple barriers like doors and walls completely unpassable when OOB unless they have a strong motive to overcome them. Remember in the astral/ethereal realm thoughts are of prime importance. So lack of intent (= thought) means that all obstacles are harder to overcome.
Hope that makes sense.

Grey
It makes perfect sense.
I have had obstacles become a problem and then not.
Once I just willed myself pass them.
Like a wall or a window. Other times I felt the texture of the object I 'went through'.
Very slowly too. Almost like slow motion.
When I do finally have an OBE then I will become a bit surprised so I will Fly just to 'stay busy' as to NOT wake up.
I have trouble controlling my 'flight' though.
Once I flew a couple of miles from home and it took everything to 'stop'.
I ended out by the airport. I fly backwards too. On my back as if lying down and flying head first. Weird & annoying.

The 'hovering' out side your home.  I have done that too. Anywheres from 10 feet to 100 feet in the air.
Floating but, at the same time I 'felt someone' near by but, I could see anyone.

Sadly though as of the last few months I have had problems trying to even have an OBE.
I have felt the beginnings of vibrations but that is about it.
Seems I do it easier in the colder months then the warmer.
However, my dreams have been 'busy'.  I can't remember them very well but, I know I am working my buttocks off. hehe

Good post Greytraveller.  You are an interesting person.  It would be a joy to meet you sometime.
I always enjoy reading your threads & posts.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 05:38:24 »

Embodied Words -
Thanx for replying. Regarding flying --
Flight is a skill that I have been VERY Fortunate to control while out of body. Flight is a Great thrill (if done correctly). I heartily recommend that you use affirmations with the intent to achieve outdoor flight during your next OBE. It is a worthwhile goal. And if you are able to fly, even if you go nowhere in particular, then at least you can hone and improve your flight skills during your next OBE.

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It is always a pleasure to reply to your posts.
About obstacles- an ability to go through a solid object while OOB seems to primarily depend on both the clearness of the conciousness and the motivation for getting around (or through) the obstacle. I am not an expert but have read a LOT of OBE accounts and have noticed a definate trend regarding obstacles. Physical objects and energy fields are harder to overcome when a person is either a) confused b) highly emotional or scared and c) when lacking energy.
Conversely those obstacles are much more easily overcome when the OBE'er is focused, motivated and charged with energy.
Of course this is only a generalization but this is true for me as well.

Flying is -- simply put -- a  BLAST There is no other sensation quite like it.  grin
Of course not all of my flights have been picture perfect. During one OBE I inverted head down and feet up while in flight. I started to slowly lower toward an alley 20 feet below. I tried everything to go upright again, including flapping my arms like a bird. Nothing worked. I landed on the pavenment head first and that ended the OBE.   Oh well. lol  huh smiley

Regarding your frequency of projecting -- have you tried hemisync tapes or a brainwave generator ? About one month ago I purchased a hemisync CD (From Monroe Products (TMI)). Even without headphones I have had 3 OBEs in 3 weeks whereas before listening to that CD my last projection was back in March. That could be only coincidence but probably not.

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2008, 20:15:14 »

Regarding your frequency of projecting -- have you tried hemisync tapes or a brainwave generator ? About one month ago I purchased a hemisync CD (From Monroe Products (TMI)). Even without headphones I have had 3 OBEs in 3 weeks whereas before listening to that CD my last projection was back in March. That could be only coincidence but probably not.

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Brilliant.  Thanks for the tip Grey. I'm gonna get myself a hemisync CD asap.  I just luuuurve being OOB that I would try anything to get there - with the exception of drugs of course.  I would be grateful for any other good tips.

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2008, 20:33:22 »

Very soft music in the background, or perhaps a clock or some other noise you can focus on. If you focus on the sound in the background and try to fall asleep simultaneously, then you should be able to reach the mind awake body asleep state fairly easily.

I've never tried this, but it sounds like it would make sense, so maybe I'll give it a whirl myself. xD
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2008, 21:55:03 »

I sometimes listen to music at a low volume while going to sleep.  My theory is pretty much the same idea as yours, Embodied Words.  It serves as something interesting to hold my focus and helps keep my mind a bit more awake.  smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2008, 23:52:40 »

Thanks guys.  I appreciate your help.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2008, 00:04:03 »

Woo-hoo! lol, I like when people agree with me.
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2008, 00:05:10 »

Old Dood
It is always a pleasure to reply to your posts.
About obstacles- an ability to go through a solid object while OOB seems to primarily depend on both the clearness of the conciousness and the motivation for getting around (or through) the obstacle. I am not an expert but have read a LOT of OBE accounts and have noticed a definate trend regarding obstacles. Physical objects and energy fields are harder to overcome when a person is either a) confused b) highly emotional or scared and c) when lacking energy.
Conversely those obstacles are much more easily overcome when the OBE'er is focused, motivated and charged with energy.
Of course this is only a generalization but this is true for me as well.

Flying is -- simply put -- a  BLAST There is no other sensation quite like it.  grin
Of course not all of my flights have been picture perfect. During one OBE I inverted head down and feet up while in flight. I started to slowly lower toward an alley 20 feet below. I tried everything to go upright again, including flapping my arms like a bird. Nothing worked. I landed on the pavenment head first and that ended the OBE.   Oh well. lol  huh smiley

Regarding your frequency of projecting -- have you tried hemisync tapes or a brainwave generator ? About one month ago I purchased a hemisync CD (From Monroe Products (TMI)). Even without headphones I have had 3 OBEs in 3 weeks whereas before listening to that CD my last projection was back in March. That could be only coincidence but probably not.
Grey

I need to purchase those tapes.  I could use a 'boost' I suppose.
What exactly do YOU recommend?  Disk Wise from TMI.... I mean.

Thanks....
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