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« on: May 07, 2011, 09:11:38 »

Hey Everyone,

  I was sitting here thinking of a story my mother had told me. What she described was an OBE. I decided to do some google magic and really search the topic because I was always interested in it, and even tried myself to practice what she told me..

 I should probably give a little history about my family.

    Our family has always been spiritual and unique in our own way. We have many stories that we just don't speak of because people wouldn't believe us.

  While my mother was growing up, at around the age of 16, an entity of some sort was harrassing her, she was brought to a church in the middle of mass and the priest stopped the mass and went to my mother and brought two other priests and did some sort of exorcism on her, she said it said like they were speaking weird languages, and my grandmother was sent home with very specific prayers to say. Speaking of my Grandmother, it was her and my great grandmother that would go spirit walking at night in cemetaries. Random people would go up to my mother and say "you're the chosen one". She had went to a psychic one time, and as soon as the psychic heard her birthday numbers, she was blown away and told my mother that she should be sitting in the chair that the psychic was sitting.

 I apologise if i'm getting off topic of the actual OBE, but it helps to know that maybe it's a spiritual thing that follows, some sort of entity.

In 1994 my mother was robbed at gunpoint, she suffers from PTSD and went to many psychiatrists after the fact. One in particular showed her a new way of relaxing and meditating through breathing. My mother would do this in her spare time, to feel at ease, peace. She would light candles and concentrate and breathe, and focus on the circle inside the flame. One particular day she was laying down, and went right into meditation, slowed breathing mode and she said it's as if she took one deep breath, and then she said all of a sudden she seen herself floating up, and she was hovering over her body, and seen my brother trying to wake her up and she panicked because she wasnt waking up, and then she closed her eyes and she floated back into her body.

  The way she explained it to me, was to relax your body and slow your breathing and take deep breath, and to close your eyes and focus on the center, but if it starts hurting, your focusing too hard, I have tried it, but maybe I was unable to completely relax. My Mother ended up getting pregnant with my sister and never tried it again. This raised so many questions for me though, because I believe anything is possible, and it's like a whole other world that can be tapped into, if we could use more of our brain, just imagine the amazing things we could tap into with our minds, it really is exciting to think about!

  Anyways, I apologise for the length, But there really is alot of weird phenomona, good and bad, that surrounds my family...and now I think it's time to lurk this forum now and learn as much as possible.
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2011, 09:40:09 »

Welcome to the pulse.

Sorry to hear what happened to your mum. Once you get the hang of projecting maybe you can talk her into trying it again.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2011, 16:49:10 »

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2011, 17:04:06 »

Families with a history of spirituality always remind me of the Mayfairs.  I wish there were intriguing secrets and magic hidden in my family.  I have a friend with a family kind of like that and she's pretty naturally gifted.  Maybe we inherit more than genetics from our parents.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2011, 17:45:06 »

Hi Thanks everyone. Smiley I agree Jarrod, I think we inherit more than genetics aswell. My mother had 3 of us, and we all have things about us that we catch ourselves off guard sometimes from being SO intuitive. We believe something follows us, We do not know what it is, but we know it's something. I know we have guardians around us, and I really believe we're very easy to draw energy on ourselves because of the energy my mom has, and the energy that has been given to us. Like all energy, it draws the good and bad...I believe that's why alot of bad things happen around us, but I also believe thats why we are put into situations that make us the angel, like finding a lost child on the road, or a purse and returning it. Everytime we have moved, there has been an incident brought to our attention and we somehow changed the situation, or bettered it in some way. Sometimes we see it as being blessings in disguises...We are always put in that spot.

  blis, I think the OBE my mother had really terrified her, and I've tried to talk to her, but I know she really would try it again, but only if she was fully aware of it, I think once I do start projecting, I'm definately going to bring it up to her again. Her biggest fear is attracting another entity in the waking life, she doesn't want to go through that again, and I think it's even why she stopped meditating, because she said they just all come, it's like static in her head and a bunch of voices when she let's herself focus.


the Robbery on my mother is just but one thing...we have had home invasions...it's done a toll on our family, we really do stick to ourselves and suffer with alot of anxiety and day to day struggles.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2011, 22:06:15 »

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2011, 08:53:41 »

Hi Intrigued, welcome to the forum.

Thanks for sharing your post. I've heard of some people who have made a concious decision to stay in the physical. Having experienced Astral, they don't always want to experience it again.  The reasons for this varies, it can be a fear. Or it can be a belief that they shouldn't be doing that, or that they don't want to get addicted to it.

I don't really know anything about if its possible to attract another bad entity to your life in the physical if you work on meditation and astral projecting. If it is possible, then people on these forums and other spritiuality forums havent ever spoken about it.  In fact, its usually the opposite, you only attract bad things as a manifestation of your own fear.

A friend of mine who can quite easilly get to the vibrational stage, but wishes to go no further offered to me and said "i'll project if you want me to if you want me to find out some stuff for you" I was like, no! People project for their own reasons, not for someone else.  So you may have to respect your mothers wishes to not continue with trying for more OBEs.  She should only do that if she's ready.

There are probably a lot of families out there like yours, that do not speak about these things as people would think they are crazy.  But since getting into this subject, I have discovered that two people I know in my life have experienced, and still do experience unexplainable events related to the astral and have kept quiet about it believing that others would think they are crazy.  I think there would probably be more people I know who do also.

You say that you feel people follow you? is that a good entity, like a guardian or spirit guide or are we talking about a negative entity. Either way, if you were able to astral project and connect with these entities, you might found out the information you are looking for.

Anyway thanks again for your post, I'd be interested in reading more of your posts.

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 09:59:13 »

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I think it's even why she stopped meditating, because she said they just all come, it's like static in her head and a bunch of voices when she let's herself focus.

She manifests these beings. They have no objective reality and can't really harm her. Believing them to be real is only fuelling the fire in my opinion.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2011, 23:39:25 »

hey guys thanks for all your replies, I did bring it up to my mom just after I found this site and posted, and she said the same thing, She fears attracting entities, she said that part of her life is done. I respect that. My mother is a big believer, and there have been so many negative experiences that fear comes very easily, almost instant. It's actually something me and my older brother have been trying to deal with. We were very sheltered so now, at the ages of 22 and 24 we're finally "stepping out" into the world, as you might say. 


Boom, since my mother already attracts things in the physical, she thinks that this will attract them while projecting.

As for myself, I have been trying since I found this site, and i'm going to describe what I'm feeling so far.

I lay down and get comfortable in a position that I want to keep and feels safe so I can relax my body. I do have Anxiety and OCD so sometimes it's very hard to shut down my brain and just relax. I focus on my breathing, inhaling and exhaling slowly, and I also focus on something in the blackness, I was reading articles by Xanth? I believe it is, on his website, correct me if i'm wrong, I apologise. But I was reading that it's good to focus on something in your blackness as the center, and as you relax more, things will come, white squiggles, and figures and whatnot. I chose a windmill, sometimes it would change to a blowing flower in the wind waving gently back and forth. I was able to get to this state of complete paralysis, where i would lock and go deep into a state of relaxation and i felt a shift, however, I think at this point, I do not know what to do or how to move forward, I lose the feeling of physical, but I think i get excited/shocked about it and it pulls me back or i withdraw somehow, because i know whats happening, or I know that its happening and i'm not just letting it be and letting go, OR I just don't know how to make the complete projection.

I do know that it is not going to come easy, but I also know my body and know I can get to that state very quickly sometimes, I just don't know what to do with it Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 01:27:48 »

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I do know that it is not going to come easy, but I also know my body and know I can get to that state very quickly sometimes, I just don't know what to do with it

You really shouldn't hold the assumption that it is not going to come easy.  Believing that makes it true.  I believed that when I first started practicing about seven years ago and I think that belief is what held me back, a mental block.  Don't hold any assumptions about difficulty, just experiment and practice and accept what comes as it comes.

On a side note; Summerlander, loving the new picture.  That old one freaked me the !@#$ out every time I looked at it.  Haha.  No offence
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2011, 06:26:56 »

Reading over this I missed one of Boom questions, I apologise Boom Tongue The things I feel around me, are good energies, I always feel like I'm being protected, I don't know by what, But I feel as if i'm sort of shielded, and things happen for a reason and go the way they go for better reasons, I don't know if it sounds weird, or what, but it's like our family has a circle of protection around us and we're always guided. There have been few times where I actually felt it was something bad, and at those times I usually sort of shrug it off not to give into that fear, sometimes I have woken up to my room to just hide under my blankets because I feel as if i'm not alone, whether it be a good energy OR bad energy, it startles me when I just wake up and I sense that, then I begin to wonder if thats the reason I woke up in the first place.


 I remember one time when I was young, I felt really dizzy and thirsty, and I really needed a drink, I remember I kept telling my parents that. We were in the car going home from a trip and we were stopping to get food, but only food, and I remember wishing in the backseat for a pop, for the woman giving us our order to make a mistake and put a drink, and I remember repeating this over and over in my head and focusing on the woman who was getting our order together, and by the time our order was given to us, a pop was in with it, not on the receit, we didnt order one, nothing, but I got a pop.

 I know it seems little, but there are alot of little coincidences like that, that I have experienced. I've been on my own a few times, walking at night, I struggle with sleep alot, so sometimes I will throw on music and go for a walk. At around 3-4 am usually, I start my walk, and about halfway through my walk I heard a voice say "turn around and go home" it was very quick and subtle and sincere, There was also a time when my father dropped me off to go get a new backpack for school, and as I entered the mall, a man in a red turtle neck and khaki pants had his hand in his pocket, and he whispered to me and told me to go to him, and I heard that same voice in my head say "run now"

 This is not my "thinking" voice, as you might call it, this is another voice, and I can tell it's a woman as far as I know, and it makes me wonder if perhaps its my guardian, or one of my grandmothers watching over.

I have one more sort of interesting story, It's about a trip we took on the way to get a puppy. It was far out into the country, we were in the middle of nowhere and it was all dirtroads, long roads, no stores nothing to be found, we were clearly lost. We were almost out of gas, had no money, no phone, we were starting to talk about what we would do when we ran out of gas, how my father was going to start walking to find a gas station or store. I dont exactly know how this happened either, but one minute, there was no gas station, the next minute, there was...we looked in the distance, and there was a gas station. we pulled into the gas station, and a young man came out, looked about in his twenties, had blond hair, and he asked us what he could do for us that day. We explained to him that we were lost, trying to get to a certain place to get a puppy, and we are are empty for gas, and my grandmother, who came with us, had 5 dollars, not nearly enough to get anywhere we needed to get. The man looked at my mother and said "don't you worry about a thing dear, I had such a good day today in tips, i'm going to fill up your gas tank to the top, no charge" we said thank you, and whatnot..the thing is, when we drove off and turned around, there was no gas station, it was field, there was nothing there...there were no bright lights we had seen that caught us right away, nothing...People do not believe us when we tell them these stories. I mean I understand, Half of my stories probably make me and my family seem crazy.

But I believe in angels, and earth angels, and people being sent here to help other people in times of need. To just do what they are here to do.


Jarrod, I agree..I need to change my mentality about it, I think what blocks me though, is that i'm thinking too much about, when it's going to happen, how do I know, is there something I should be doing to aid that boost to actually make the projection.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2011, 10:39:50 »

On a side note; Summerlander, loving the new picture.  That old one freaked me the !@#$ out every time I looked at it.  Haha.  No offence

Thank you! smiley

I drew that after having a profound and exhilarating experience. It also inspired the name "Summerlander" because after the experience, I came across a book about the afterlife by David Fontana in the library, and, stumbled upon the case of a dead person talking through a medium and telling his loved ones where he was...a harmonious colourful world full of cottages and rainbows...the description struck a cord with me straight away and later, in the book, the author was associating it with the "Summerland" world in Spiritualism, Theosophy and Wicca.

My experience had a profound effect on me. I never wanted to come back from it. It wasn't just visual, there was love and harmony and everything seemed to radiate music...or 'fluty' sounds. Today I regard it as a possible collective construct which differs in vibrations to our world...it could even be a Belief System world manifested in Focus 3 oC as Kepple would have it. Anyway, sometimes I refer to it as my "Summerland experience" and the name "Summerlander" that I use in astral communities stuck.

Perhaps people should be focusing more on this type of experience and believe they can get there rather than fearing and believing in demons and looking over their shoulders every time they project...

Just a thought.
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 16:16:47 »

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Jarrod, I agree..I need to change my mentality about it, I think what blocks me though, is that i'm thinking too much about, when it's going to happen, how do I know, is there something I should be doing to aid that boost to actually make the projection.

I think the best way to learn is to focus on the practice itself and not the desired result.  I once had a yoga teacher who used a little time in one of our classes to show us how to meditate.  She offhandedly said that if we should find ourselves accidentally wandering in the spirit world to just gently bring ourselves back and continue the meditation.  To people like her, everything that people like you'll find in this forum try to do is just a distraction.  I asked her more about it after class and she said that most nights she either meditates straight into her dreams and keeps meditating or finds herself lucid in her dreams and just resumes her meditation.  That sounds crazy to me because my goal has been to be able to explore the spirit world.  But I think it's that kind of single minded dedication to meditation that makes the more traditionally spiritual people like that so natural.  We make it harder than it is by focusing on our end goal and spending our energy trying to make things happen, when we should be devoting our energy to training, and be less involved in the results.  What happens will happen when your mind and spirit are ready for it, not because you make it happen.

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Perhaps people should be focusing more on this type of experience and believe they can get there rather than fearing and believing in demons and looking over their shoulders every time they project...

Yes.  Positive expectation is much more productive than fear.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 03:52:12 »

Hi Intrigued.  I'm sorry I didn't see this post sooner, but I have a few comments- one of the things is that a lot of what your mom experienced is explainable as auditory hypnagogics and doesn't have to be considered 'negative beings tormenting her' when she's trying to meditate.  Chances are that she's clairaudient and gets auditory effects before other effects- and these are common side effects of being in a deep trance or projecting.
Symptoms can be from noises, voices (metallic radioy-sounding voices also) music, whooshing, and even hearing things that are happening from far away.  Of course everyone knows about the vibrations, but they can also be noisy, and there can be all kinds of visual effects- all these are symptoms of trance and not necessarily of a visitation.
The reason I am mentioning this is because although most people get other symptoms (like vibrations or pictures) before getting noises or voices, some people (like me) get voices fairly early in the trance, and the first times you hear them they can be quite startling.  What they are can vary, from listening to 'noise' in the etheric (aka M-Band noise) to hearing conversations that other beings are having with each other, all the way to hearing your own self aspects 'objectified'.  But these don't have to be scary for you or her, because they are sometimes interesting, sometimes gibberish,  but not necessarily negative.
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