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Author Topic: A trip to Hell !  (Read 13589 times)
ether
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« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2011, 14:24:42 »

hmmm...

hell is on earth!!!

why? for people to work something out

you's arent going to like this but...
it (life) is all controll at least 85% of it anyway and if ya want to get really technical the other 14.999+% is in a particular way is controlled as well
noone guilty of nothing except  only a few people that have gone after things that dont know nothing about long story!
but they have a small argument if they had any brains it might get them 1 year of their 30 year+ sentences grin
having said all that we (some undecided) are to take controll of it (life) consciously...fun
the only way that happens to take part is to live the bases of the meaning of life which is to live for other people and to love all
become this
live this
its the only way you can become the best you can be
and its the only way you get to take part in the controll of it (life)
we cannot have clowns that go to wars etc that hate each other taking controll of the worlds systems that dont understand the meaning of life...can we!!!
ask ya guides if ya dont believe it...but if ya have to ask odds are you dont have one sad, because you are not living the meaning of life wink

good luck

love all

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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2011, 02:21:51 »

Sounds like your letting your internal Beliefs play out your Astral experience

Remember your THOUGHTS create your reality

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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2011, 02:21:51 »

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« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2011, 05:40:25 »

Sounds like your letting your internal Beliefs play out your Astral experience

Remember your THOUGHTS create your reality



but you must understand where thoughts originate from wink
not all people could of had a good life at this stage in our life cycle
like we all want, i dont know anyone who doesnt want a good life for themselves noone
the reasoning being is that the energy required to run the world(s) system(s) was needed and it happened to be the emotions that are the one's we dont like disasterous and the like
however it has just recently changed the energy usage so their is no need for the emotions (energy) that we donot like

and the reason we are lead to believe that our thoughts create our reality (some) that is because we are to consciously take over the whole world(s) system(s) for the better of all
you will see a pattern if ya done a survey and that is if you looked at it you will find those that had the best intentions of many/all will have the most success... again controlled

good luck

love all
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« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2011, 21:04:46 »

I personally don't believe in hell or "evil". It is even hard for me to believe in entities and planes with low vibrations, though I will consider it a possibility. I do think though that God would never purposely show you such horror.
Also when you project you see what your mind wants to see. You only take yourself where you go in the astral realm. So if you think of hell-like scenery, you will project to it.
Personally though I haven't been able to fully project yet but when I do, I will only ask my spirit guides and God to never reveal anything negative to my astral being. Maybe you that's what you could do.
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« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2011, 21:32:52 »

when you have been out more you will see that hell like places are fun and full of good artwork
im sure if you was doomed to only that place you may feel diferently but when its a choice to go there its not scarey its just alternate  cool

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« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2011, 23:49:12 »

I personally don't believe in hell or "evil".
I don't either, not in the objective and ultimate way that some religions promote.

 
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It is even hard for me to believe in entities and planes with low vibrations, though I will consider it a possibility.
If you remove judgements like 'evil' or 'low vibration', you can see the diversity of what's possible, here in the physical and into the nonphysical.  So you can categorize something as negative if you have an experience that isn't pleasant- but ultimately, realms such as 'astral hells' serve a purpose that is not judgemental, that is for the benefit or the organism.  If you give me a chance and meet me halfway I can illustrate it for you.

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I do think though that God would never purposely show you such horror.
I suppose that if you believe in God as an objective and separate being, then it would be either very difficult to believe this (or relatively easy, depending on what you think is 'right'.)  But if you believe that God expresses as you, then you may see a reason why God would want to experience such an unpleasant scenario- it's not being done to you, it's being done through you, and by you, or rather, by God manifesting as you.

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Also when you project you see what your mind wants to see. You only take yourself where you go in the astral realm.
I think this is metaphysically true- with the caveat that you are not the only being in the universe, and that everyone else also projects their beliefs and fears into the collective environment.  Sort of like in the physical, but with more liberty of expression, and with different results.


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So if you think of hell-like scenery, you will project to it.
Maybe, if it's to your benefit.

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Personally though I haven't been able to fully project yet but when I do, I will only ask my spirit guides and God to never reveal anything negative to my astral being. Maybe you that's what you could do.
It's possible that this may work for a while- but if you fear this experience, you may be asking yourself to help fix it, which will create a situation in which you will experience it.

Now, what I was trying to express earlier is this:  It is believed by some experiencers that we come to this earth to experience what can happen, what is possible in this type of life.  Material physical reality has its variety of experiences that are possible.  And when we forget that there is more than this, a lot of negative energy is built up- fears, beliefs, what some would call 'unresolved issues'.  Now it's possible that these issues were experienced on purpose, but your limited self doesn't understand this, and you develop some emotional distress because of this.  Then you die.  And you now are faced with the fact that there is unresolved emotional 'baggage' that you need to get rid of, if you want to do something else, in the nonphysical.

There has to be a way to resolve this, because you did not come into the physical to not experience- so there has to be a reason for it.  So you decide to come up with a system in which you can release all this negative energy that is now 'weighing' on you (of course, this is a physical term, but I think it describes it).  So what do you do?  What can you do?  A few possibilities:

One way is to somehow return to the physical, and through another person, release the emotional stuff.  So you 'attach' to someone who is having some sort of similar situation, and is going through some trauma.  And this may work for you, and you can continue on your path.
Or it doesn't, and you just turned into some sort of negative entity, who couldn't release this negative energy, and are haunting some poor bastard who was having a hard time in the first place.

Or, another plan would be to create a simulation, with help with other nonphysical entities that are helpers- to relive this negative thing, and eventually resolve it.  A kind of roleplay, designed to release all this negative energy, which is incompatible with your desire to do (or be) something else.  This makes perfect sense to you- you replay the bad situation, until you come up with an acceptable solution that makes sense to you, and you are free from it.  Why not?  the astral is an instant thought-responsive environment.  And you are a creating being.  So you create a situation that is similar or the same as the one that dogged you and brought you pain, and you basically redo it until you're done with it.  If you feel guilt, then relive it through the other party.  If you feel pain or rejection, you recreate the scenario with a different outcome.  The possibilities are endless.  And, time is relative.  Or maybe different.  
 Now, imagine you are a projector who is seeing this from the outside.  What do you think you will see?  A being going through some sort of 'punishment' or 'hell'.  Now, this is a judgement based on physical reality from the observer when it really is something else-after all, how else are we going to interpret it? The context is missing for the observer, but not for the experiencer.

So now the soul is done with the crap it came in with, and now there are other things 'he' can do- become a nonphysical helper, or a np teacher, or even decide to come back to physical reality to experience something different.

Ultimately, no one knows what  the real truth is, but this makes more sense to me than 'literal' ideas of religious heaven and hell, with 'eternal' this or that.  Now, that makes no sense to me in any context.
Because we do get these experiences now and then, and it's a lot to do with the attitude of the observer also.

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