Astral Cheating?

[missym]

If she is having sex/relationships with other beings, even if they are not ACTUAL, physical, people(or are creations of her mind) , she is still having sex with other *beings*.
The difference between fantasizing and (IMO) cheating, is in this case she is acting it out, therefore it no longer becomes fantasy; but reality.
Then again I guess it depends on your idea of 'cheating'.

Why don't you tell her how you feel? If she really loves you, she should understand and respect how you feel about this..

[The Doctor]

If she is having sex/relationships with other beings, even if they are not ACTUAL, physical, people(or are creations of her mind) , she is still having sex with other *beings*.
The difference between fantasizing and (IMO) cheating, is in this case she is acting it out, therefore it no longer becomes fantasy; but reality.
Then again I guess it depends on your idea of 'cheating'.

Why don't you tell her how you feel? If she really loves you, she should understand and respect how you feel about this..

I have told her a few times, but she says it's a different plane and so it doesn't count. But surely if they are Focus 2, they are only imagination? Because the beings are in her mind of sorts? Can this really be considered cheating if it is with fictional characters?

I must confess that if she thought she was hurting me she would probably leave me. And I couldn't bare that.

[soli]

Can this really be considered cheating if it is with fictional characters?

no, only that which is objective.

[Xanth]

Simply put, use your own judgments... use your own ethics and morality. 

~Ryan

[vipassana]

What do you do if your lover is having relationships with astral entities from other worlds? Is this cheating? I have heard a friend of mine has a husband that AP's into other dimensions (or at least claims too) and is in relationships with many people at once in different worlds, both romantic and sexual. Is this cheating? Or does the AP world work differently?

If you knowingly did it and you felt like you cheated, then you cheated. I went down that road in an AP/lucid dream recently. I consciously chose it just to see what it was like.   

[podizzle]

You know the old saying.....

What happens in the astral, stays in the astral. 

[nickspry]

Once you start imposing physical world restrictions and boundaries on the out of body experience doesn't it lose it's whole essence (ie: complete freedom) and eventually become a carbon copy of the physical?
If someone feels no desire to stray, then they won't. But if they do have that desire and they prevent themselves from acting on it, then they're subjecting themselves to physical world codes of conduct, which have a reason to exist in the physical but no reason to exist in the astral. If people want to restrict themselves they have a perfect right to do so of course, but it's a personal choice.
Should you be honest about it and tell your partner? I think that if all our thoughts could be heard by others society would crumble in a matter of hours. We keep much of what goes on in our heads private to avoid causing offence, pain and conflict. It's just the way human beings are wired.

[NEW_Anna]

I brought up this topic in our chatroom and what I said is that, while in the astral, your mind works differently, e.g. your memory, your instincts. At least, this is what I experienced.

[The Doctor]

Recently things have gotten bad. My lover is always acting very affectionate towards these videogame and TV characters, and not at all to me anymore. Now, when I tell her I love her she either never says it back or gets angry with me. I tell her little things (not getting to private here) and she says "not really into this" and then yet when these fictional characters do this she's in a giggly and lovey mood. This is wrong to me. These characters are getting the affection that I feel should be shared with me.

[Xanth]

Sounds like someone needs to be a bit more attentive to their partners needs. 

If she's special to you, you'll do whatever it takes to keep a hold of her.
It also sounds like you two need to sit down and have a talk.
Communication is key to a solid relationship.

If you can't talk about what's bothering you with her... then perhaps you need to second guess your relationship.

~Ryan

[Psilibus]

Read "My Platonic Sweetheart" by Mark Twain. It may influence your feelings about these relationships.

http://www.searchwithin.org/download/my_platonic_sweetheart.pdf

Or it's just a cute tale. Either way I have always said "if it feels good, do it; if it doesn't, don't."

[The Doctor]

I've decided to let her do what she wants in the astral. I have her in the physical, and I love her more than anything in the world. And I know she loves me too, that is all I need.

I don't believe she is comfortable with too many romantic words, but I see she loves me in her actions and other things. I believe in us.

[AstralBeginnings]

Aww you big soppy blanket!

If its worth fighting for then stick with it, however I would certainly be questioning her motivations.  Also, I see "The Astral" as just an extension of our physical reality, I think Frank called it "Wider Reality" and I agree with this term.  Its all real, physical or not (IMO) and I would certainly not be happy about my wife doing what you describe in Physical or non-Physical REALITY.

[David Warner]

Just had to jump into and out my .2 into this discussion.....
Plus, it has been awhile so it will be good to start posting again!

Anyways, from reading previous posts in this thread is it cheating during the obe? I tend to feel from experience is that if that is your prime reason for leaving the body "yes" it is indeed cheating.

This is a touchy matter because everyone has their beliefs and different perspectives. I think the best way to look at this is: what you feel inside, is it hurting your healthy physical relationship, and most of all the energy - does it feel positive or negative. You have to make it clear with your significant other what is happening.

Anytime when you have a commitment between two physical beings (man/woman) and there is a bond, strength and love. Then a outside influence comes into play - then we react to competition, what does that person have that I don't etc.. The energy itself turns dark and negative which there is now pain.

Imagine this if you may, lets say you found out that your other was having a relationship with a blow up doll. Fantasy or not, mental or physical it will put a strain on the relationship if the other does not approve.

We don't need to look at religion to says it's conformity to prove right or wrong. Just observe the reactions of what your other accept or not.

I have been OBE so many times and in my earlier years, wasted so much energy of trying to "score" then focusing on the big pictures and that is "Love".


Tvos

[The Doctor]

Aww you big soppy blanket!

If its worth fighting for then stick with it, however I would certainly be questioning her motivations.  Also, I see "The Astral" as just an extension of our physical reality, I think Frank called it "Wider Reality" and I agree with this term.  Its all real, physical or not (IMO) and I would certainly not be happy about my wife doing what you describe in Physical or non-Physical REALITY.

Is this the case even if the entities are Focus 2 fictional characters from videogames and TV shows? Or does that count more as her fantasy rather than reality?

I will never be truly comfortable with her having astral relationships. Not ever. But is it worth losing her over? Absolutely not. Nobody has touched my heart the way she has. And I want to hold on to that, always and forever. Until the day I die.