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« on: December 12, 2011, 22:54:29 »

I have been able to voluntarily and involuntarily astral project since the age of 16. I am now 33.  I feel a high level of fear most of the time. I have learned to relax when I feel the vibrations and hear the buzzing. Still, even when I try to, I cannot control my "body" very well. On occasion, I wait and I'm able to shoot through the roof or wall and fly, but I can never really get passed that. I do hear whispering and have seen other "things' but again the fear holds me back. My question is what can I do to benefit from my experiences? I have always felt like I'm supposed to be achieving something because of the frequency and uncontrollable nature of my travel. I'm very new to talking about this subject with anyone. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. grin
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 01:13:46 »

Thanks to Greytraveller i can advise you what he advised me.

1. Using affirmations such as "Clarity now" "I want control" can aid in gaining control and sight.
2. Plan where you want to go and do before you plan to project

All i know buddy! giggity!
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 02:49:06 »

I think it's a matter of wanting a definite experience.  Perhaps you have a lot of information about demonic things or some such of that nature, and do not experience the astral due to hidden fears of meeting up with something ugly.

I have no control either.  I have experienced, but they are always so rushed and fast paced, it's not even a lucid dream but it seems like astral experiences to me.

Perhaps try some deep meditation, if you meditate with enough focus on the clear potential of the existential state, you can do anything, literally, anything.  How that effects other people is entirely up to you. 

I just know that I wake up out of a flickering dream.  The dream is like some kind of fireball that is flashing on and off, it's either that, or I wake up out of static, always very tired, just as tired as when I went to bed.  I had an experience about flying last night that I am going to post on the boards as well.  Perhaps the sub conscious level is conditioned to 'not astral' or 'lucid dream' due to the fear of missing something in Earth Reality.  I don't know for sure, just what I figure.

Try being aware of the passage of time, don't count it, try to feel 'the time stream'.  That's partly how intuition works, you procog an event due to a conscious awareness of time.  I used to have a 'time sense', and, other things.  Now I'm almost positive that I've created everything in my experience of reality, it's just a  matter of finishing the experience and moving on to a new existential state.  I'll get astral eventually, but when I do, that's it, I'm not coming back.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 01:11:33 »

Hallo cvgk
What Danny said. LOL
PLUS You can benefit by out of body experiences. Going out of body is really an ART that can be improved upon the more it is done. And fear is probably the biggest barrier to be overcome. Of course easier said than done.
Affirmations and prior intent are small steps. Yet everyone Must start somewhere. Each person is different (obviously) so affirmations and prior intent will be better for some people than for others. The trick is finding what works best for you. Ask questions and get ideas and then experiment. Try enough suggestions and eventually something WILL work leading to an improvement in the length, quantity and quality of your OBEs. Have patience and determination.  smiley

Good luck  cool
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 01:51:21 »

I'm sort of the same. Only started happening of recent though. Of recent I skipped the whole OBE (leaving physical body when in my bed) and sorta went straight into a black portal thing (Picture can be found in the top thread on homepage under my post starting with 'pictures!'). I'm kinda new to the experience but I suggest when you come out of your body and are relaxed to try thinking about black or imagine closing your eyes. Then try to move towards the black. This is what I'm gunna start trying. If i find a way that lets me go to a portal without lingering in my room I will re post tomoz

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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 13:00:20 »

if you are  unwillingly bein draged into the astral the that is not a good sighn. The non light have planted charms or of some sort into your aura in your past incarnations so the non-light can drag you to the astral at their will. I adwise to go to a light healer and clear these blocks . But nothing to much to worry about . A knew a friend who had same exact thing.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 04:48:32 »

Thanks to everyone for your advice. I will absolutely try the affirmations. Also, a question for all you experienced travelers; Do you find that it is easier to leave your body during the day? During a nap or after waking in the morning and falling back asleep? This is when I seem to experience AP the most. Also, I find that when I have a high level of stress in my life I AP much more unwillingly. Any thoughts on this?Thanks in advance again. grin Sorry if the questions seem silly like I said I'm very new to conversing with anyone about this subject.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 08:26:08 »

you probally ap when your stressed more willingly for a nurmerouse of reasons , one reason could be that since the astral is dark by nature and is on the negative polarity scales when compared to the light worlds , your vibration and energy of stress and negative emotion make your astral body  more in tune with the astral vibrations and energy and therefor you can easily slip into the astral. But ussaully when your stressed or feeling negative emotion and you AP even if you decided or not  your experiance will most probally is going to be a bad one and you will project your self to the bad side or highly negative part of the astral filled with negative and sinister entities.
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