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« on: December 09, 2015, 22:42:42 »

I just started reading heavily into this Astral Projection phenomenal, and I am super interested. ( I have not tried it myself yet - planning to do it this weekend)
I did some more research and stumbled across forums posts, articles and blogs talking about unrealistic stuff like for example:

- "Live" contact with another projecting person
- Visting physical places in real time and seeing what's going on in that moment, while projecting
- Seeing new dimensions, colors etc.

Now, I don't want to be the sceptic, but these things, let's be honest, are terribly unrealistic. Perhaps I have misunderstood.
Can someone give me a hint to if people actually believe this, and explain to me how this would actually work.
Thank you in advance, I am totally into this topic.

- Rusty
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2015, 23:15:55 »

 Hello and Welcome!

 Nothing anyone says here will really prepare you for what you are about to experience yourself. Those examples above are just plain words. Experiencing them is for real!

 You can do all of those things and much, much more! But lose your expectations and just allow yourself to experience what you see or where you find yourself. Passively observe everything. You can question it all afterwards.
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2015, 23:15:55 »

logoVisit the website of Astral Pulse creator Adrian Cooper.

Home of the best selling book Our Ultimate Reality.

Astral Projection, Metaphysics and many other subjects.

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2015, 23:20:07 »

Lumaza Great words my friend i just want to add one thing correct me if i am wrong you said that you will do it this weekened as far as i see you are new to this stuff so this question goes to expereinced people there is not it better to prepared and don't rush too quickly?


I suggest you to read this written by EscapeVelocity

It is possible an experienced projector could help "pull" you out...but there are some factors that make it very unlikely. First, in order to find someone when you are projecting, it really helps to have some prior rapport with them (friend, family, you at least know them); this allows you to "home in" on their energy signature. A mailing address just doesn't do it. So that means having somebody you know who is already a fairly proficient projector or finding a really talented one. Second, your level of shall we say, energetic development, will dictate how ready you are for the experience and how much difficulty there might be in getting you out; also, whether you would even remember the experience. There can also be unexpected issues...

As an example, the only time I ever tried this was to visit a co-worker and try to pull him out one night. I made it to his bedroom and he was in bed with his girlfriend. They were both asleep, but his girlfriends' astral body was wide awake and sitting up looking at me with surprise. My intent was so strongly focused on him that it didn't even occur to me to interact with her (thinking clearly in the Astral early on is a whole different issue!). I called out to him mentally and his astral self/subconscious responded with something I hadn't expected; he said, "Leave me alone, I'm trying to get some sleep here!" I called back, trying one more time and he said, "No! It's late and I want to sleep!" I started losing focus by then, flew up through the ceiling and eventually awakened. Neither of them remembered anything but my description of some oddities in the room confirmed the experience for me.

I should have run off with the girl...stupid, stupid... cheesy

My advice is to spend some time here reading up on techniques and anything that catches your interest to get yourself thinking in more of a Non-Physical way of looking at this practice. Some simple, daily meditation is good to start training your mind for the control that will be required.

Another thing to do is to start a Dream Journal and work on remembering your dreams and what they can teach you. Your dreams are the first place to look; if you have had a strong Lucid Dream, where you became aware that you were dreaming then this is a perfectly valid form of Projection (re-focusing your conscious awareness away from the Physical Reality and into one of many possible Non-Physical Realities); also consider the mindset you have within your dreams, how it can vary and understand that this initial mental capacity is something you will learn to exercise and strengthen.

Also, it appears from the "reliable" literature and enough of my own experiences that there are guides and helpers in the next dimensions who are ready and able to help "pull" you out when the time is right. Many people have reported feeling "helping hands" lifting them by the feet or legs; I felt this once myself. So, respectfully asking for their help doesn't hurt. One caveat to this is that even though they monitor all of us as we try to explore the Non-Physical, they mostly expect us to figure it out by ourselves, thus the more rewarding the knowledge gained.

Some ideas
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2015, 23:22:17 »

I understand it's an awesome experience and all - but what it really is, it's just a rollercoaster through your imagination.
All the external stuff like some people said that if you get to the highest realm you will be given the answer to life.
If all these things were true, don't you guys think the society would have given this a little more attention?

Thanks for the reply btw, and I am totally looking forward to try Projecting Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2015, 23:25:18 »

You can test it by your self ask your friend to write a number on a paper and ask him to put this paper in other room but like that u would see it without taking it i mean you can't interact with physical materials from astral as far as i know so if u will see the number that can be a little proof if it happens in our mind and while doing this teqnique we unlock parts of our brains which allows us to create a virtual version of our selfs to obsorve the whole world in details then lol it's still awesome : P
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 23:26:26 »

So I have told my good friend to leave a note on his desk for this weekend, with a symbol, he may not tell me. (A flower, star, circle etc).
Then when I am AP'ing, I will visit him and see if all this is true.
And if I have to be honest, I don't really believe in it, because if this is to be true, we have discorvered an interely new level of science.
So, all jokes and fanfictions aside, has anyone tried this or anything similar and made it work?
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2015, 23:39:32 »

Like that you are skeptical but existence of bioenergy field is proven by sience as far as i know yes but u can't count it as soul one more thing that it's famous fact that neouro scientist of harvard university had Near death experience... Also some scientist are way too skeptical about this also how u know it's not discovered and they just don't tell you lol also bro there are really many stuff which will you beleive in soul existence and astral project is one of them i have some good theories with which i could proove it but cuz of my lack of english and 0 sense google translate it will be way too hard

In the end my words are just my opinion you are god of your self (god of your self not god of others many times people overreact about theirself) go deeper and find truth by your self just reading our commnets will put many many theories ideas and "proofs" in your head in the end you won't be able to see where is actual truth and where is a lie , trust me no even don't trust me how u know that i am not crazy person speaking crazy stuff trust your self do by your self Lumaza said very correct you know how many posts video people i have seen messaged over one year most of them claimed that they saw Heaven spoke to jesus and stuff other say different things and everyone is sure in their beleifs

Except going on others trails create your own one you are creator of your journey don't let others stop you from these if u are here already on this forum this means you are already searching for something and not this atheist who are tuff in youtube comment section : P so bro as i know your situtation i also ask for advices and search for help here and in other places but i realised one thing that some things must be done by you and discovered by you. Reading and getting information is one and realizing and understanding the deep contecst of it is different. Create your theories go deeper be skeptical take neutral side in choosing neutral side i mean don't let your old beleifes or idealogy change your poisition hmm how to clear this out let's say so judge by cold mind like you don't belong to any type u are free

Maybe what i wrote here is incoorect or maybe some part of it is correct but who knows actual truth who knows what's real and what's now in going deeper the fact you realise is that you don't know anything you know something put that a very very little part of unending water there are no limits you can't say oh done now i am enlighted and i know many things no u learn every day something new there is no full Knowledge
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 23:49:07 »

 Positive3, although that whole post by EscapeVelocity was very well put, I wanted to especially highlight this part of it for rustydreams to understand.
 My advice is to spend some time here reading up on techniques and anything that catches your interest to get yourself thinking in more of a Non-Physical way of looking at this practice. Some simple, daily meditation is good to start training your mind for the control that will be required.


 Rusty, you get out of this practice what you put into it. This "new level of science", as you put it, is something Science can't fully understand at this time our development. Yet, this isn't a "new level" at all though. It has been there since the dawn of man. You have a shift in consciousness every night when you go to sleep. You just aren't aware of it.

 Being skeptical is healthy. But a true "Scientist" would put a lot of time into his research before he came to any conclusions of what is or what isn't occurring. Some people have said that it took them years to have their first conscious projection experience. Others had theirs after just simply listening to a video on Astral projection or reading a book on the topic.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 23:52:55 »

Lumaza agreed , wanted to add this little quote which is claimed to be Nikola Teslas anyways who knows here it is

"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."

- Nikola Tesla
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 23:56:43 »

 ...and Rusty, here is a thread filled with "validations" from members here to answer this question you had "So, all jokes and fanfictions aside, has anyone tried this or anything similar and made it work?" There are 9 pages of personal validations to be read there.

 http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/validation_thread-t25607.0.html
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2015, 00:49:16 »

Totally agree with most of this, and the near death experiences and all that, has been proven Smiley
I don't wanna be too sceptical, and I not some sort of scientist, but I do think this is too fascinating to not look thoroughly into.
Now, most of stories that people tell is often complete bovine excrement, no offense. But instead of drawing conclusions of other people's experiences and theories, I will try Projecting myself.
If I succeed and manage to AP, I will update you guys on my experiences, via a small resume.
Right now, I am having a hard time putting myself in your perspectives, simply because I have not experienced any OOBE yet.
For now, I will thank you all for replying, and thanks for the little discussion.
I will return with personal experiences soon. In the meantime, please don't hesitate to post your opinion on this matter.
Thank you in advance Smiley

- Rusty
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2015, 07:31:37 »

Rusty bro no problem , last thing i have to say care be well prepared

Prepare your self your mind your awarness it's not good to jump to early Train well and you will success one thing is to successfully seperate soul from body and second how to protect/use your self in astral and what kind of things you can do
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2015, 09:48:54 »

  But instead of drawing conclusions of other people's experiences and theories, I will try Projecting myself.
BINGO, we have a winner!  smiley

 I was so hoping you were going to say that. Nothing beats "firsthand" experiencing. Learn the Art, practice often and come to your own conclusions of what is and what isn't. Journal your results no matter how trivial they may be.

 ...and finally just remember, you need to learn to walk before you can run!  wink
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2015, 00:35:10 »

So I have told my good friend to leave a note on his desk for this weekend, with a symbol, he may not tell me. (A flower, star, circle etc).
Then when I am AP'ing, I will visit him and see if all this is true.
And if I have to be honest, I don't really believe in it, because if this is to be true, we have discorvered an interely new level of science.
So, all jokes and fanfictions aside, has anyone tried this or anything similar and made it work?
Yes. Many have. Also Near Death Experiences and Remote Viewing (scientifically examined) yielded lots of verification results. So does AP and OBE. But it takes some work to reach it because it is not easy. But it can be done.

For simplicity and to save space to write, please read this link with lots and lots fo verifications and evidence.

http://da-lai.lima-city.de/

It isn't even updated anymore or there would be even more than there's now.  wink
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