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« on: June 13, 2002, 06:56:15 »

nobody wants to reply to my first post?.I was curious what others would think of my experiences.Lucid dream?Obe?or combination of both?I was also thinking about how Ive been feeling.And I read up about my meds I was taking.Seems Im going through withdrawls.Its only been a few days since I stopped taking those bloody things.Most likely the reason why ive been waking up covered in sweat.Thank god this is probably just temporary.I feel as if im coming off some kind of hard drug.Heres some good advice stay away from anti-anxiety meds..This is just my opinion.I guess they do work for some people.Ive tried a few of them.They didnt help me much at all, and the sexual side effects were terrible I guess its true what they say meditation is the best medicine.Here I am replying to my own thread at 4 in the morning how sad lol.  P.S.If you got this far thanks for reading my post and I bid you goodnight!          


 
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2002, 07:48:51 »

I do have one question and I mean no offense but why all the black people?  I gather you are white?  From what I have read from most people they see all different kinds of people not just one color.  So it seems to me that this may have been more of a lucid dream trying to play out a few fears first.  The part with being on the meds has a lot to do with it.  Although I am against most med for myself I would caution some one just stoping with out consulting thier Dr.  But I would deffinately talk to him/her about getting off the meds, or go see another Dr.   You need to ask if the meds are truely required of if there are other methods you could try, like a shrink,(Please forgive the term but I can't spell the other one right now.)  This is not as bad as it may seem and can be an excellent alternative to meds.

But the larger trick would be to detrimine the importance of the experience to you.  I mean what do you think it all means?

David Rogalski
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2002, 19:30:07 »

thanx for replying,the only place that there was all black people was in the bar.When I was in the classroom it was different kinds of people.I think that girl in the classroom could of represented someone who I recently met.My girlfriends friend, she kinda looked like her.My girlfriend actually asked me if I taught she was cute.I just smiled at her not saying a word.She was pretty and my girlfriend knew I taught that.heh.
 The animals just felt as if they didnt fit in.I think they were there because I had some encounters outside my home with a baby squirell who looked sick.I actually gave it some bread and water,cause I felt bad for it. I love animals.Seems the more I try to understand it the more confused I get.I will try not to look at it so deeply.Ive had other dreams of being shot in my past.Maybe you are right about the fears thing.And another thing,I watch alot of movies.That bar part looked like it could of been something I watched.Maybe next time I will try flying upwards and see where I end up.
As for my meds I have not been taking them long,About 4 to 5 months.Not a super high dosage either.I know I should of told my doctor.But Im the only one who knows how they were making me feel.More of a lack of feeling than anything.Ive already got an appointment to see a shrink(didnt feel like spellin it either) im going to see  him in a few weeks.Im kinda dreading it but I will go.Im actually feeling pretty good now.And today is the first day in a long time that I actually want to go out.Hey I was curious what your name meant?

 
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2002, 04:06:38 »

Cainam being maniac backwards.  As in I am the opposite, there is a method to my madness.  Picked that part up during high school football and it kinda stuck.  The last part Nazier, I dunno.  Kinda plucked it out of the air, don't know if it means anything in another language or anything like that or if is actually a qord or not.  But I use it as a desription of the fighter side of me.  
Some what like the worrior and the scholar in the eastern martial arts.  Cainam being the scholar side and Nazier being the fighter side.  Knowladge before power.  One seeks to learn and the other to protect.

David Rogalski
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2002, 18:14:41 »


Found myself in a classroom.Right in my chair.Looking around seeing the other people in desks.Some of them seemed familiar to me.Most  I didnt know from a whole in the wall. I especially noticed a beutiful black girl.It was wonderful.I kept on asking her to go with me.She was just smiling hapilly.I was floating around the rows looking at the people.Its hard to remember what they say now.But they  were several that spoke  to me.Went to the back and they were kittens,yes kittens.They were playing around with a racoon.About 5 or 6 of em.Most of them silver with black stripes.There was also a ferrit but it was with its owner,(I guess) in a back room.I went through a few walls in the process also.Eventually i woke up covered in sweat.But that experience little did I know was just the beginning.
  I settled in and didnt try to make any sense of anything yet.As if I could anyway.I guess I sank back to sleep. I found myself in a bar.I noticed this was just black people in this bar.And they didnt seem to like me.I was floating all around.very closely to these guys.More than a few started to pull out guns and started shooting into my gut.I was kinda scared but I didnt feel a thing when the bullets hit me.So my fear went away.After a little while of this I heard myself say  I was invincible to them.The shooting stopped.I proceeded to fly around in and out of walls saying hello and greeting them.Some greeted me back,smiling and laughing.They seemed to be losing there fear of me I guess.Than the bartender was coming towards me pretty fast..So naturally I felt he was going to hurt me.I tried to fly away but I didnt have much luck.It was very awkward for me.I couldnt gain much ground on him.He eventually managed to get right next to me.He streched his hand out and I saw that he was holding some money.He spoke and said that he give me some money if I changed these guys minds.This bartender its hard to recall right now but I believe he was the only white guy besides me there..I was about to tell him that money wouldnt do me much good.And I would hapilly do it anyway.But I felt my arms in my physical body move.I woke up covered in sweat again.I mean literally soaked.
  Ive been practicing obe techniques for a few weeks and doing new every day with meditation.I know why Im being hit with all these dreams now.Ive been smoking marijuanna daily for awhile now.It helps me with my anxiety.But recently I stopped.And I also stopped taking my anti-anxiety meds because I feel they are doing more harm than good.Now im being hit with crazy dreams every night.This was my 2nd dream-obe that I was actually aware and could see.My first was very short and I flew through my house out the window into the 2nd floor.Than I woke up not sweaty that  time.Most likely cause I was alone.Waking up all sweaty is kind of annoying.But I know why it happens I think.My anxiety is more of a social anxiety thing.It happens in real life when im around people.I start gettin sweaty and those panicky feelings.I get really shakky too.Ive had these problems since I can remember.Im 24 years old BTW.Now its gotton so bad where Im home all the time.And hardly ever talk to anyone but my girlfriend.I left my job of  almost 5 years because of these problems.I just couldnt deal with people anymore.I hope in having these experiences eventually I will get use to being around and actually trusting people again.I will continue on my journey.This has opened up a new door for me. smiley

I wrote all the above in wordpad when I woke up and just pasted it in.I noticed I left some little details out.How everything looked.It was so clear in both experiences.Nothing was deformed.It was just like real life.Thats why im pretty sure this was an obe.In the bar,it was really full of people to the point where you couldnt walk without bumping in to someone.They were people standing and sitting.The tables were full.I noticed how well dressed these guys were.Most had suits.Some of them wearing fancy hats.These werent modern clothes.It was definetely a scene from the past.
 In the classroom,I dont remember there being any guys in there,besides the guy in the backroom with the ferrit.I figured he was his pet he had some kind of collar with a sort of bowtie. I remember  all the pretty girls in the classroom especially that one.A few of the other girls said some pretty sexual things to me that I rather not say what they were.hehhe..Another thing about when I was in the classroom.I felt i ran out of energy and went back into my physical body a few times.I raised energy in the physical and ended up back in there.But I couldnt see.(only vague shadows of the rows of desks).I feelt myself go through one of the walls.Than it felt as if a black cloak was opened from the front to the back of my body and I could see again.
 Im going to raise some extra energy today using new.I cant wait for bedtime now.


 
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