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« on: September 01, 2018, 05:00:38 »

Is it possible to do something so wrong against your own self or God or higher being or all of them or whatever that you will be disowned on some level by some higher source?
Matthew 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

I tend to think that this scripture has to do with a higher being(s) helping someone throughout their whole life or family throughout their whole life only to have the most important lesson not only rejected but to cause more suffering to others. Not only that but there was an agreement made before their incarnation that they would overcome because of the help of higher beings, then it all just gets destroyed. What do yous think of this?
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2018, 05:28:08 »

I think this is a very limited understanding of the purpose of existence and the nature of our lessons. Not learning a lesson in certain timelines is also a part of the learning process. No spirit should be considered as a failure just because they take time to experience various failures. We also learn from failures big time, all the time. If higher beings or holy spirit, whatever you call it try to help, but you fail, they better not freak out if you will LOL, because that will show that they are not so advanced themselves. True high beings and the source of all fully understand the complex journey of the spirits. The Source (All That Is) what I call God is actually a part of everything that is happening, every event, every spirit, everything. So, ultimately in a grand scale God is responsible for everything, how can he punish himself that severely since he has set the rules in the first place.  
No spirit is destroyed or condemned for eternity. Every step (the good, the bad or the ugly) is a part of one infinite journey though the endless multiverse.


I don't think there is such a thing as an absolute set things to learn in a specific life. The only consequence of not learning lessons is their repeat. How many times, that depends on many things.  Also, don't forget that there are many probabilities in many parallel realities that the spirit is experiencing simultaneously. The purpose is to experience as many possibilities. Each of them hold valuable lessons. Again, broken promises are also lessons, although we interpret them as failures. We must experience failures in order to understand the validity of the lessons.  True teachers should never be disappointed at their students. In a multiverse scale  this concept is much more complex that how we understand it here in this reality.


In addition, our own thoughts and beliefs can take us the darkest places of he multiverse strictly created by our own emotions. They can also take us to the highest heavens. I believe every spirit at one point or another has been in all these places. It's a part of the learning process. But never something comes to a stop for eternity.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2018, 06:15:10 »

One man's idea does not make it so. I'm not so inclined to put more emphasis on what anyone in the bible said than I do what I feel is so myself. It's time we stop putting all this emphasis on old ideas that were deeply colored by those people living at that time. They had their journey, we have ours.

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2018, 12:13:25 »

Is it possible to do something so wrong against your own self or God or higher being or all of them or whatever that you will be disowned on some level by some higher source?

Maybe the idea of being disowned by God or your higher self is more offensive to them than anything you can think of to offend.

These are just rules that turn god or you into a whiter shade of pale....
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2018, 13:57:52 »

It seems that there is a lot of misinformation about what's "up there". My suggestion, that I follow too, is to find out for yourself. Don't trust, but also don't blame others. Turn inside, go deep, ask, be open for answers, don't filter them through your expectations, beliefs, emotions!

There are honest people who distribute misinformation.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2018, 22:53:42 »

I guess if you are aware that you are going against something that would be helpful to your journey you must have some fear of still have a need to understand better through those choices you made. No one should be feeling ashamed to be still confused or afraid. It is hard enough to realize that we are truly our own truth and we always have to be responsible for our choices. No one has the right over your individual journey and thank goodness for that.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2018, 05:36:11 »

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Matthew 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

What do yous think of this?


I think you have to put it into its own cultural context to understand it, not our modern society.

In that time and place, the various regional gods are sort of in a turf war. Several religions have a regional god that later gets elevated to god-god (the only, monotheistic god). You can sort of apply the same rules to these gods as you can to druglords... they thrive on respect, awareness of their name and deeds, and fear. The scriptures that deal with them establish a similar relationship between their followers as well. This is an excerpt from the time the concept of Yahweh was drawn in fierce combat with the concept of Babylonian , Assyrian, proto-Persian, etc gods.

Yahweh's first concept was a kind of angelic warrior that fought in the heavenly realm for the Jews against their enemies. As time grew on, he was deemed to have greater and more expansive traits, until the inevitable declaration of omnipotence. Even then, Yahweh continued to be the god of only the Jews, for the Jews and their interest over all others. That should tell you all you need to know.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2018, 08:05:26 »

Thanks everyone for your replies, especially because I believe that I am one of those people. But I don't believe that one can blaspheme the holy spirit like Christians think, and that is because of communities like this that helped me move out of my once limited understanding of the spiritual. So thanks to everyone here for that.  smiley This thread just helps me solidify that.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2018, 08:25:01 »

Whenever I've messed with the source/god, or my understanding of it. I find that whenever I communicate with this entity, I feel all love and understanding, however I have done some wrongs, and I can't help but kind of mentally punish myself for it, I shouldn't, even the source knows this but my concious is pretty honest when it comes to enteracting with the source, and the respect I have for it. either way I'm getting better at this communication with the source without having my labels holding me back, takes some getting used too.
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