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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2002, 01:37:31 » |
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Hi, Do you remember how you went from a Lucid Dream to an OBE because I have at least 1 Lucid Dream a night and I am uunable to successfuly OBE, I searched the other boards but I couldn't find anything. - Daniel
"I dream because I love the Freedom" - D.B
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2002, 02:19:28 » |
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>Hi, Do you remember how you went from a Lucid Dream to an OBE >because I have at least 1 Lucid Dream a night and I am uunable to >successfuly OBE, I searched the other boards but I couldn't find anything. -> Daniel
I happen to remember my dreams especially if it's the last one usually my lucid dream/obe is the last one after I wakeup. How I know I was going lucid to obe I was actually acting out my seperation from my body, ie was trying to seperate like for example my last lucid to obe I was lying on my bed as I would then I started to lean over and fall off my bed but my astral me ended up falling out then I saw myself on the bed. The other time I knew I was on my bed I just standed up but my leg was stuck a bit so I said to myself loosen and I loosened then I couldn't see then I said I can see now and it's as if turning on a video camera. There are other tricks of going from lucid to obe, I had a lucid dream awhile back that turned to an obe (someone told me this trick it does work), I saw a scenario which was lucid but it wasn't an obe yet, just start staring an object increases the lucidly (awareness you are dreaming which forces you into an obe) of the dream and finally urned out to be a obe what happened I started hearing a humming in my ear after I stared at an object then said I don't want to see this anymore I shut my eyes it went dark concentrated in the humming sound in my ear and all of a sudden I saw myself looking outside of my shutlid eyes in my bed then I immediately rolled out (very easy to do) its just so darn easy to seperate from your body in a dream lucid state than it is in a conscious state people try and practice because there is no physical tension I guess or consciousness in the way. So try that next time you enter lucid states observe/stare at a fixed object then wait see what happens next you will be more and more aware you are dreaming then you can trigger the obe somehow.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2002, 16:38:29 » |
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Thanks for that, I only just read the post so last night I spent a Lucid Dream Exploring a house, strange thing is it had a basement and my houses never have basements but the basement was white and bare. I will be sure to use them techniqies as soon as possible. - Many Thanks Daniel
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2002, 18:53:02 » |
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good luck you should achieve an obe eventually especially if you lucid dream a lot. another trick you can do after you are aware you are dreaming and have full control of it the next thought could be like I mentioned close eyelids concentrate on humming sound I think it's just the same as thinking or saying "back to my body" because the humming sound emanated from my body so it caused to shut down the lucid dream and I went to my body and did the obe but any moment you see yourself in bed move out as if you would in the physical world quickly rolling out and you'll be surprised how easy the astral body moves and just in case it gets stuck a bit just say it's loosening now, its freaky like every thought does something (every thought is creative) so you have to think the right things at the right time to get out. I think after you get the hang of it you'll know what to say and what should come to your mind first to say, practice makes perfect. Whats freaky this gotu kola herb that I'm taking I don't even have to go from lucid to obe most of the times it looks as I am near an OBE like I mentioned before which is amazing. Even the exercises in the book robert bruces either it'll get your mind into an obe/lucid mode while dreaming or eventually your brain be trained enough to do it in a conscious state and do the obe at anytime at will.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2002, 13:00:19 » |
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quote: Originally posted by weagle: How I know I was going lucid to obe I was actually acting out my seperation from my body, ie was trying to seperate like for example my last lucid to obe I was lying on my bed as I would then I started to lean over and fall off my bed but my astral me ended up falling out then I saw myself on the bed. The other time I knew I was on my bed I just standed up but my leg was stuck a bit so I said to myself loosen and I loosened then I couldn't see then I said I
I was having an OBE one time and I couldn't fly very good, my hands were stuck behind me as if I had on real tight jeans & my hands were in the back pockets & couldn't be pulled out. When I came out of it, I realized the problem-I was laying face up with my arms under my back-I had layed down that way cause my arms were cold.
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2002, 02:39:54 » |
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hehe I guess your physical was getting in the way of your astral you could of overpowered it with an emotion like say hands are now in front even if they aren't but your mind will take your word for it just like when I was stuck to my body I said loosen (didn't need to do any rope trick) and couldn't see and said I can see now with confidence and I was able to see like they say in psychology "every thought is creative" especially in the astral/lucid dream world. I had even another lucid dream again today in front of my house looking at the sunset was very bright/lucid if I can learn how to say in every one of my dreams back to my body or stare at an object to become more lucid then things will get fun I can do more obe's that way I guess practice makes perfect. quote: Originally posted by Sandy:
quote: Originally posted by weagle: How I know I was going lucid to obe I was actually acting out my seperation from my body, ie was trying to seperate like for example my last lucid to obe I was lying on my bed as I would then I started to lean over and fall off my bed but my astral me ended up falling out then I saw myself on the bed. The other time I knew I was on my bed I just standed up but my leg was stuck a bit so I said to myself loosen and I loosened then I couldn't see then I said I
I was having an OBE one time and I couldn't fly very good, my hands were stuck behind me as if I had on real tight jeans & my hands were in the back pockets & couldn't be pulled out. When I came out of it, I realized the problem-I was laying face up with my arms under my back-I had layed down that way cause my arms were cold.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2002, 23:44:11 » |
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Chemicals..chemicals! I don't need your steenking chemicals!  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> fides quaerens intellectum
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We shall not cease from our exploration, and at the end of all our exploring, we shall arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Elliot --------------- fides quaerens intellectum
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2002, 00:00:29 » |
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The human brain is full of receptor sites who's sole function in life is to receive and properly distribute psyhoactive chemicals given to us by God/Godess. I believe using chemicals in our brain is part of our nature and evolution.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2002, 03:43:37 » |
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A lot of people must red these boards- because when I went to my health food store they were ALL SOLD OUT. I bought some "Yogi Tea" that has Goto Kola as an ingrediant along mixed with some other stuff- I took it before going to bed and whammo- I was out like a light. I'll try it when I'm awake sometime and see if I can get out.
On my tea-bags it says Goto Kola "clears the mind of stray thoughts"
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2002, 09:52:14 » |
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>going to bed and whammo- I was out like a light. >I'll try it when I'm awake sometime and see if I can get out.
Leyla: probably had either scullcap/valarian in it that would knock you out, gotu kola is very light sedative and keeps you awake or take it in lesser doses. Scientifically they say gotu reduces the accoustic response to panic/anxiety/stress they tested on poor mice. I'm amazed at gotu's ability for connectivity tissue I had very chapped lips I took gotu and it reduced it atleast by 70% they don't hurt or bleed anymore (from taking accutane for acne dried up my facial skin).
peacewarrior/link: if it's a godly plant with no to almost no side effects or damage why say it's harmful don't we eat food that is full of chemicals? There's good plants (I like to call Godly) and there's bad ones out there.
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2002, 15:19:33 » |
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Does it taste good?
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2002, 05:14:29 » |
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quote: Originally posted by MsAmericanPie: Does it taste good?
I don't know I take the capsule form they do also sell it as a herb really cheaply but they say elephants in india eat a lot of this herb. Next time I try it in raw bulk form will let you know.
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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2002, 03:19:18 » |
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I went to the health store and purchased some gotu kola it's used for anxiety/stress and sharpen the mind, in india it's used for meditation because it relaxes you a lot while keeping you awake. Boy does this stuff really relax you, I was lying in my bed and either I fell asleep or during one of my sleep/rem dreams I was aware of me being asleep and in my bed and was able to astral project, this is after second day taking the herb and I didn't do any exercises whatsoever just was aware I was in my bed and just got out of but I was stuck to my body so I just said I can loosen this and it losened and I got out then I couldn't see I said I could see now and I was able to see. They also call this herb in india bramhi which means the best of the best for meditation/relaxation.
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2008, 22:55:59 » |
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I had an OBE using Gotu Kola for about a week, and I was trying to have one. It was brief, but I was impressed with the herb. I suddenly found myself out-of-body looking at a chair in front of me and I was making the chair turn left, then right, back and forth with only my thoughts. A moment later I was back in my body. I've had OBE's before, but sometimes I'd end up falling asleep while attempting to have them. The Gotu Kola almost seemed to make it easy to have one.
One website I was on said that it is known as the "herb of enlightenment", and it does seem to live up to that description. This herb has been used for thousands of years. It is very highly regarded by the Chinese and the people of India. In their experience it does improve meditative abilities and it offers many health benefits too.
You don't have to buy capsules of it though. Gotu Kola plants can be purchased on the web so you can just grow it yourself (indoors or outdoors). It's a tropical herb that is easy to grow and it's very hardy. Probably the only thing it can't tolerate is frost. It prefers wet soil, but the soil can dry out and the plant can appear to be dead, but give it some water and it will spring back to life. Gotu Kola is easy to propagate too. Just take the plant out of the pot and separate a section of it with ample roots, replant it, and now you have two plants. The recommended dosage straight from the plant is two to three mature leaves a day. I've read on some websites that eating the leaves fresh from the plant is best, and that is what I was doing when I had my experience. Give it a shot, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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