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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2016, 09:17:36 »

EV - I've got to let this absorb for a bit. And I'm terrible at free-association, smiley But I will be back!!

Lumaza - You were doing an absolute jam up job tooo! I love this one and the conversation. I'll be back to this one for sure. I've read the last two links you posted but I'm going to the first one now. Hugs!
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2016, 03:55:48 »

We talk a lot about fear and facing our fears. It sounds like you have really faced yours EV. I mean how many people do you know who would take full-on face dive in gravel. LOL! You are fearless!

But that makes me think of times when I have come across individuals that are afraid of me. This has happened a few times and I honestly can't fathom why. In each role I am either totally lost myself, just coming into it or I'm one of the good guys (so to speak).

Is it possible 'I' am 'their' fear test or wake up call or... well, what do you guys think?
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2016, 03:55:48 »

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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2016, 07:31:48 »

Thanks for the compliment Nameless! I still get the occasional fear test during SP or when first coming aware while still focused in my physical body. When I get an experience where I have that high a level of lucidity, I'm just so happy for the opportunity and that happiness translates into a pretty fearless attitude (at least for awhile lol).

Your encounter with a NP entity who is initially afraid of you sounds like some type of test that is next-level and more subtle than the basic entity-trust test. Your initial read on you being their fear test is an interesting perspective. You could also add this question: How do you handle the situation when the roles are reversed?

It has become clear to me that when you are thrown into a perplexing situation like that right from the start, you are really being tested on your instinctual nature and responses. This makes a lot of sense to me when I think back on those short-lived, odd situation dreams that we just sort of shrug off wondering what the point of it was.
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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2016, 02:09:08 »

Thanks for the compliment Nameless! I still get the occasional fear test during SP or when first coming aware while still focused in my physical body. When I get an experience where I have that high a level of lucidity, I'm just so happy for the opportunity and that happiness translates into a pretty fearless attitude (at least for awhile lol).

Your encounter with a NP entity who is initially afraid of you sounds like some type of test that is next-level and more subtle than the basic entity-trust test. Your initial read on you being their fear test is an interesting perspective. You could also add this question: How do you handle the situation when the roles are reversed?

It has become clear to me that when you are thrown into a perplexing situation like that right from the start, you are really being tested on your instinctual nature and responses. This makes a lot of sense to me when I think back on those short-lived, odd situation dreams that we just sort of shrug off wondering what the point of it was.

Well darn, I don't know how this got lost without a reply. (scratching head) I do remember reading it, lol.

It's odd EV, the last time this happened a lady saw me in a mirror and it freaked her out so bad. Now if I reverse that I don't think it would have frightened me at all, not now-a-days. But what happened after was new 'to me'. Some other entity (dark, smokey stick type figure) seized me from behind and whipped me off to a field. I got the distinct impression I wasn't supposed to be playing with mirrors only I wasn't playing for that is where the experience began. Well no, (I'm working this out as I type). It began in a room and I just happened to think of mirrors because of a thread I had read here earlier that day. So that is why I actually walked over to the mirror, I expected to see myself or some semblance there of. Guess I got it all wrong as the field felt like a time out.

So this goes back to what you are saying about being tested on instinctual nature. My natural instinct had nothing to do with a mirror, it was an after-thought. This was so much easier before I knew what I was doing, LOL. But it is so wonderful to be learning on this side too.

Other than all that I just typed I wonder, have you been able to go back to the same simulation? That is if you have tried. If so, how? I've managed to do that sometimes but not all the time.
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« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2016, 15:30:10 »

Okay EV, here is something that just keeps popping up in my mind every time I read your op. I have had a number exp in a place that sounds remarkably like the place you describe. Your small description just resonates with some of my own. Here's what I'm referring to - "I realized I had already phased and was now standing in a new environment, a different dimension looking at a stretch of grass in front of me, closely mowed like that of a golf course fairway; looking around, it was a peaceful country scene" and this "I materialized about 500 feet up in the sky, a beautiful day, blue sky, dotted with some clouds and I was over some lovely rolling hills with green fields and small copses of trees.

Now I haven't seen statues there and twice I found myself floating in a hot air balloon over just such a scene.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2016, 03:36:48 »

The first environment I found myself in with the freshly cut grass, I did not stay but a few seconds, so I really can't give a more detailed description.

The second environment, the giant statues definitely had a Dali-esque feel to them and the landscape I thought I sensed a much less Dali feel, but I still felt it. Maybe my interpretation was a bit off and what I sensed about the landscape was actually a subtle 'knowing' that it was an artificial construct.

In that case, maybe I was sensing that it was what Leland describes as one of the 'bio-domes' of the learning/simulation areas.

When you read that Leland piece on Simulations, Nameless, you mentioned having seen what might be the bio-domes. Can you elaborate on that?
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2016, 04:02:00 »

The domes looked pretty much just as domes look here in the P. But they were old. Some of them had been covered in some type of cloth but the clothe was tattered and torn. Some were newer and seemed to be in pretty good shape and they were covered in something else - metal or glass maybe. I had the feeling what I was seeing was not an exact image but one I could understand. They were lined up in rows, The atmosphere was rather drab.

When I saw them I was being taken somewhere else but I don't remember where. At the time I felt the presence of a few but not many souls/ppl/entities. It's was kind of depressing. I remember being mildly curious and my guide saying not this time. I had no idea what he meant by that.

I can't say for sure of course that they were the same as Leland's only that that remembrance popped up when I read his piece.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2016, 04:59:16 »

I cannot remember seeing anything that could be a biodome except possibly in my Talking to the Hand experience. I did not get much time to look around but the area where all the test modules were was kind of amorphous and hazy at the borders and edges. I had the impression it was like a fairgrounds with 20 by 20 foot tents arranged in rows, maybe 50 tents in all. But like you say, the exterior material was ambiguous, different from tent to tent. It's funny, one impression tells me tents and tent fabric; another impression was of more modern materials like you say, hence I called them modules.

Maybe this is the amorphous and changeable quality inherent in the biodomes themselves and is an indication of their purpose.
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2016, 05:27:42 »

I'm pretty sure the NP is fluid and what is in our realm of understanding is what we get. The tests or experiences themselves are pretty straight but how we perceive them is unique to each of us. Basically whatever works. Yes, amorphous, changeable, fluid. smiley
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2016, 05:32:26 »

I cannot remember seeing anything that could be a biodome except possibly in my Talking to the Hand experience.
I feel that that may be "according to the script" as well.

 I had a experience once where I found myself in a "control room" of sorts looking over my normal everyday life here in this physical realm. . I thought I was dead and that this is the way a "life review" would be. It was very eerie to say the less. But the whole experience had a number of messages. It was the first time I was shown how to reign in my ego and just observe, as I do here in this physical realm a well. Lately I have observed quite a bit here in this realm and unfortunately not a "enough" of it is positive.
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