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« on: May 06, 2003, 17:17:41 »

Of course I will join. I have already joined anyway since I asked your help lfting me outta my body somehow. Smiley
I am not so sure whether you can divide OBE-ing in such stages, the master OBEers probably don't get on forums like this.

anyway, since I have to share succes.

My Journal so far. Cheesy

Thursday Week 0 Day 0
4-2
late Pm,Being high trying to fall asleep. An image came to me of rainbowlike energy filling up my reptilian brain. And a little spreading their energy otherwise. I had to find the right way of imagining the colors but I was not high anymore, the image gave me energy or clarity which drove away the highness. Perhaps itís the kind of light which made my consciousness clear.
diamondlike. I tried imagining soft light and softness cloudlike environments with did have shapes however.
night
Iíve woken up. Or so I thought because I stood up in my dream (unsconscious OBE) sitting on the bed. I saw I didnít wear and pence and I thought I masturbated while asleep or so and though íclean the bedí. I felt whole some way. I stood up, ignoring my clothes and opened the window and saw an odd world ,  a dreamy world it was not very clear with a black sky which was not a sky but more of a caring kind of thing. Some kind of stars or lights. I thought I saw things fly and thought;I must be out or something like this is judgemnet day, I donít know.
But most importantly I nocticed after a while a beautiful rainbow  to the right of me in the sky above. I thought by myself:there are more than 7 colors lets see if I can create them. I went back to bed and suddenly I wasnít whole againÖ and sitting naked on the bed seemed disgusting. I donít know if I did succed creating colors. I also dreamt oabout other spiritual things but they are very unclear.
I woke up later., perhaps I lied donin my dream and then woke up in the timespace.




Friday Week 1 Day 1
Second of May
I am reading the topic and
writing down exercises because they cant be selected unfortunately. sigh
hm,many untruths in the answers and questions section.
Not being able to change the past and psychedelics damaging your astral body does not agree with my memories.
and prozac interfering with obe doesnít either.
written. now im almost offline.
Ill see how I can remember or write down the rest.

Night
Went to the toilet, then the shower and there I let my thoughts wander off and at the same time focusted them on Ďgoodí things. Meditetion, I always do this under the shower. its peaceful under water. I was planning to do the ROAM GOAM mantra in my mind, as written in the course, But I forgot.
Went to bed.
Woke up at 2 at night. Tried to remember my dreams if I had them. couldnít remember, I thought it was later than 2 oíclock. Smoked some Calamus +Salvia to get back to sleep and visualize. Then I did the relaxation exercise. Visualised on the concept of harmony again. Worked better this time, images of people (love in many kinds of ways) and plants in harmony, of being god and seeing all came by. Also avery vague image of a house came when I focused on letter my soul manifest itself as something in my mind;the plan was to clean up what I saw and with that clean up my own mind, Its an Indian ritual.
But unfortunately this state of mind was driven away by some part of myself or an evil spirit, I donít know, and it was replaced by abominable scenes. I focused on the house later again, as I thought it felt as if it was more of a mess than before.
Went back to sleep later.




Week 1 Day 2. Saturday
third of May
Day
Couldnít remember dreaming after waking up at somewhat before 8 oíclock.

night
Did some intuition following. breathing. smoking.
Couoldnít remember my dreams, know Iíve had some.

Sunday  5/4
[Day]
Canít remember dreams, slept well. I imagined a lot during my car ride o grandma and back and even after that till Iím writing this now.
Meditated on wisdom.
And the the connection with elders.
I wanted to wrote down all I thought off but I canít even remember.
Oh yeah, and I just send energy to some dogs, they seemed to like it very much.
I imagined colors flowing out of my hands into the animals body.
Colors which were emotions at the same time. J
I did one, later another came as If the other had told her about my healing hands LOL.

[Night]
I read a book about muslims before going to bed, and I believe I dreamt the whole night about muslim-like-love-and-brotherhood. and heaven.
I feel good. the last daysÖ or weeks.

Monday 5/5
[day]
Woke up dreeamng about muslim heaven as I said, but without any 72 virgins fortunately.
I feel my imagination becoming better. I think I have tried to imagine things with the part of my consciousness that is rational and therefore not capable of imagining. I must have found a way to activate my right-hemisphereic part more. And my emotional part. I have just got a book about the links between consciousness and perception of the body, coordination and brainparts controlling the function of the self, the energy is very low with me in that brain, so said the electronic energy reading on a parafair.

Hmm, its hours later by now and I still feel enlightening effects of the practice in making me more aware of my body + another thing I try to do is do not think bt feel, do not ever name something,define something, that is the key I found to becoming truly aware in a totally different way.


[night]
Went in the shower and meditated some standing up.
I knew Iíve dreamed about something good.
But I forgot what .

Tuesday 6/5
[day]
Almost dinner time and my day has been Bright.
Nothing in particular.
I have Ďmeditatedí while working, about happiness,goodness, truth,love,  and how they are connected because of this feeling of positive thinking and brightness I have the last couple oí days.


greetings and good luck to this plan.























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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2003, 21:22:00 »

Though I do not want to be rude If Everyone posts a weekly journal of all (or even most) of their activities regarding OBEs, projections, dreams, lucid dreams, energy work and meditation then this thread Will be too long to comfortably read. [|)]
Yet I don't want to Discourage anyone so will state that personally I plan to post only a short capsule summary of any significant experience(s) and success(es).
BTW I Did have a precognitive dream about the tornados that hit the American midwest yesterday. I will post that in the Dream forum.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2003, 21:22:00 »

logoVisit the website of Astral Pulse creator Adrian Cooper.

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2003, 23:18:54 »

ok. been a rubbish week so far.
Got startled out of the trancelike state 4 times so far.
3 times by my drunk and noisy housemate
once by my mobile phone beeping loudly to tell me that the battery is running low.
After I get startled out of the state i always seem to find it hard to get back in.

Trying again tonight but ive had a couple triple rum and cokes so im certainly not expecting anything.

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2003, 14:00:28 »

quote:
Originally posted by Greytraveller

Though I do not want to be rude If Everyone posts a weekly journal of all (or even most) of their activities regarding OBEs, projections, dreams, lucid dreams, energy work and meditation then this thread Will be too long to comfortably read. [|)]
Yet I don't want to Discourage anyone so will state that personally I plan to post only a short capsule summary of any significant experience(s) and success(es).
BTW I Did have a precognitive dream about the tornados that hit the American midwest yesterday. I will post that in the Dream forum.



It is not neccesary or even handy if everyone posts a journal like I did but I simply had this alrweady stopred up so I just quoted the whole thing.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2003, 14:07:40 »

Reading this gives me an idea. It would be great to start something like an astral club that meets periodically. Everyone who wants to be a part of this can project at a designated time and attempt to meet astrally. I know there are alot of different time zones involved in doing this but it seems like it could be possible and it would help alot of us motivate ourselves to project. I don't know very much about group work like this but anyone who does could create a blueprint. Would anyone be interested?
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2003, 18:50:20 »

quote:
Originally posted by LJ57

Reading this gives me an idea. It would be great to start something like an astral club that meets periodically. Everyone who wants to be a part of this can project at a designated time and attempt to meet astrally. I know there are alot of different time zones involved in doing this but it seems like it could be possible and it would help alot of us motivate ourselves to project. I don't know very much about group work like this but anyone who does could create a blueprint. Would anyone be interested?



Check out Adrian's post titled Astral Locale.

And as for myself, I'm finally remembering dreams. Not every night, but a lot more than I usually have been for years. In the past 2 weeks I've remembered around 6. Usually I remember one a month if I'm lucky. Every now and then I notice some energy sensations when I'm practicing NEW, but not often. Thanks to Celestial, though, I'm part of the MysticWeb course.

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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2003, 18:53:57 »

hi!
I am more than willing to sign up, only as first level though: why should become apparent in my entry
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read another chapter of Astral Projection and Psychic Empowerment by Joe H. Slate

got head phones and played relaxing music
focused on the music and imagined it lifting me up and out of my body, got vibrations after about one cycle of the music

fell asleep

this always happens- I reach a point- vibrations, floating images, and then I fall aslepp and cant remember anything the next morning!
any help would be much appreciated.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2003, 00:53:28 »

[Cool]Hello Celestial I'll join too....umm at intermediate I think. Anyway I'll keep you posted[Wink] bye for now [Smiley]
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2003, 01:09:14 »

I'm in til I'm gone for Summer. But this looks like a very good idea.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2003, 03:53:49 »

Hey all.

My suggestions... and comments thus far...

Thanks for posting Kenny. Looks like you've been pretty busy. Keep it up. [Wink]

Interesting about the precog dream Grey. That makes me think of disasters. I'm starting to note the disasters that happen so that I can do retrieval work on them.

Any fears [about projection] Arcane?

Hey LJ57! [Cheesy] This has already been started. Each Saturday is Group Giza day. It doesn't matter the time. All interested and involved just get there some time Saturday between 12 AM Saturday morning to 11:59 PM Saturday night. We can share our experiences on the board for this... the Pyramids on Saturdays week 1 board. Each week, Sunday starting week two, we can start a new board of this along with this Group Efforts board. I look forward to seeing your reply. [Cheesy]

Creatively come up with ways to get to Giza, and techniques to use. We'll share what we do on Sunday.  

Your welcome Fyrenze. [Cheesy]

Yo zakaroth!! Good show. One thing, as you'll see in my experiences, we underestimate what we experience. You got really far. It's easier than you think. The vibrations and floating images are there. That's very good. Just focus harder on your technique of imagining the music lifting you out of your body. Let it be the last thought as you go to sleep. Be intent to be aware, and for it to work. Be intent to remember. Based on what you're experiencing you can realistically plan to have an experience by Saturday of this week with that technique, if you just believe in yourself.

Great kromeknight. Glad you're a part. [Cheesy]

Ok lateralus. And thanks for the support of the idea...

"Push the envelope, watch it bend... "  [Wink]

Tuesday, May 06, 2003
On this night I practiced lazily. I lay down and relaxed for about 20 minutes straight. My body started getting heavy and numb. I then lay there and allow myself to fall to sleep while listing to the tick of the clock. I intended to count to 100, count 100 ticks, and then move, and repeat. I thought it wasnít working because I wasnít feeling any change, but when I called it a break and got up I was hazy and could barely stand or walk straight. To my surprise it was working, though I was feeling no change. I guess as you get used to getting into altered states, perception of changing states lessens. I must remember this.

Wed. 7, 11:41 PM central time
It reminds me of Monday when I was visualizing, imagining myself walking through the living room. I went and memorized the living room for a few minutes, then I lay down and imagine walking through it. Images that were stronger than my visualization started coming up and I swung myself back to my visualization, and it wasn't until after the practice that I realized I was in Theta- having the imagery. It was working. I look forward to projecting tonight. I'll keep you posted. I'll post my posts for Thursday and Friday both on Friday. See you then. [Cheesy]

Sincerely,    

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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2003, 03:58:14 »

How fast do you think it is possible to fall asleep? If I sit down to meditate in the full lotus, place a card with a Buddha in front of me, and within thirty seconds find myself dreaming, unable to stay awake... is that really sleep? Especially when the moment I stop my mind clears instantly, even without moving physically? Could that have been a form of projection?
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2003, 05:42:55 »

quote:
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Hey all.
My suggestions... and comments thus far...
Thanks for posting Kenny. Looks like you've been pretty busy. Keep it up. [Wink]
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Yes, I will, but I will not make every day in my journal so big when nothing really happened, I have not written in my journal after posting that piece, because nothing worth noticing happened.
I know I have more pleasant dreams, but I never remember them, only when I am just waking up I sometimes know what I dreamt, or what I am still dreaming about. Hm, second week of the course is dreaming remembering isn't it?
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Hey LJ57! [Cheesy] This has already been started. Each Saturday is Group Giza day. It doesn't matter the time. All interested and involved just get there some time Saturday between 12 AM Saturday morning to 11:59 PM Saturday night. We can share our experiences on the board for this... the Pyramids on Saturdays week 1 board. Each week, Sunday starting week two, we can start a new board of this along with this Group Efforts board. I look forward to seeing your reply. [Cheesy]


So If Im understanding correctly every Saturday some people come to each Other In Egypt floating above the pyramids???
(If so, why not use all your power and will to help this group pulling other members out of body. [8D] ) I want to go there too. [Sad]
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Creatively come up with ways to get to Giza, and techniques to use. We'll share what we do on Sunday.  


And creativily come up with ways to pull others out when you meet at Giza [^] [Cheesy]
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Take care.



you too.





A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE HERE:GO TO OTHER ( obe )FORUMS AND POST A LINK TO THIS TOPIC SO THE GROUP CAN BE AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE. PERHAPS SOMEDAY WE CAN MAKE AGREEMENTS ABOUT FOCUSSING ON EACH OTHER AT GIVEN TIMES ALL AT ONCE. (MAKE SURE HOWEVER THAT THE PEOPLE COMING HERE MUST ALSO GIVE HELP WHEN THEY CAN, NOT JUST RECEIVING IT.)
I'll try to pull some people from Dutch forums and another forum
to come here.

I have already PM-ed Chad btw,Celestial.


Greetings Kenny. [^]


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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2003, 13:48:04 »

Journal Update.

May 8,thursday

In music 'class' I sensed more feeling for flowing with the music.
I had keyboard.
I did everything right because I did not could but jusr felt.

I sensed and increase in my emotion and my understanding of human interaction while I was in the bus home stoned.

Read something Aristoteles wrote in Ethica, someone else brought that book.
Very interesting, about good and luck.
Had a major Deja-Vu when it happened.

see ya all.



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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2003, 14:03:12 »

Darryl,

Does the mysticweb dream recollection mantra work for you? I've been doing breath awareness relaxations at night to try to help me get to sleep (I've had trouble sleeping for years). I've also been affirming lately that I WILL remember my dreams.

But I woke up this morning (May 8)without a fragment in mind, so I immediately tried that mantra...It didn't seem to do much of anything.

One thing of note is that when I woke up I felt rather drugged...I felt...like I was on strong codein(the actual drug hasn't messed me up that much since I was a lot smaller). And no, I'm not a habitual codein user, but I've taken it for broken bones and also once or twice during severe bronchitis.

I'm not SURE, but I think perhaps this may have been one of my subtle bodies that was still "loose"? Or else I may have just been in a light trance. I'm not familiar enough with either of these sensations to know if one is indeed what I felt this morning.

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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2003, 14:08:55 »

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Darryl,

Does the mysticweb dream recollection mantra work for you? I've been doing breath awareness relaxations at night to try to help me get to sleep (I've had trouble sleeping for years). I've also been affirming lately that I WILL remember my dreams.

But I woke up this morning (May 8)without a fragment in mind, so I immediately tried that mantra...It didn't seem to do much of anything.

One thing of note is that when I woke up I felt rather drugged...I felt...like I was on strong codein(the actual drug hasn't messed me up that much since I was a lot smaller). And no, I'm not a habitual codein user, but I've taken it for broken bones and also once or twice during severe bronchitis.

I'm not SURE, but I think perhaps this may have been one of my subtle bodies that was still "loose"? Or else I may have just been in a light trance. I'm not familiar enough with either of these sensations to know if one is indeed what I felt this morning.

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Thanks for the remendir of the affirmation method.

I guess you're dreams where so relaxing and peaceful that your brain filled up with endorphins , the neurotransmitter which codeine is based on, to become biologiocally aware of the relaxation.
You usually remember the nightmare's better, when you are too relaxed you are too deep to remember.

Just a Theory.

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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2003, 14:46:25 »

I have put links on -
www.scholieren.com forum ,subforum mystical (a dutch scholars forum)
www.astralforum.com, on the methods section
www.overgrow.org, on the philosophy section in the smokers lounge.
www.wietportaal.nl, a dutch forum, in the philosophy section.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2003, 15:59:46 »

Well I am starting to have some success.  I never could feel the vibrations no matter what I did and I realized that I was concentrating on the sensations that I feel.  When I feel heavy I am this close to trance when I feel warm and tingly I am this close.  When pulling on rope I should feel this first blah blah blah.  This actually had the reverse effect and kept me from experiencing the vibrations.  I had to deprogram myself of these old habits and this week am starting again.  First night I did mental falling and I did this till I felt tingly and heavy in legs.  Then I just let go and basicly in back of mind did mental falling.  I got closer to sleep and probably drifted off for a second.  I realized this and concentrated more on mental falling and vibrations came I was too excited and thot im going to finally have a conscious exit and lost it.  But I made progress.
Second attempt next night I did same thing pretty much and I felt vibrations in my left foot I tried to move them up legs and felt them very lightly.  I then felt the vibrations in my back but it was on the surface of the skin not deep.  Then phone rang.  
Third attempt this morning I was sore from over exersice I had trouble feeling the heavy legs and arms and tingly so I did the rope tech.  When I do the rope tech I feel the pressure of pulling which automaticly lowers your brain waves which puts you in trance.  When i felt the tingly in legs and arms I then went back to mental falling but my sore muscles prevented any deeper relaxation.
What I learned was to use combination of the two to get vibrations.  Ill try attempt 4 tonight...

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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2003, 18:18:20 »

Hi all Im very new to AP, but had a crazy experience last night. Before going to bed last night I read a little about asral projection. I woke up in the middle of the night feeling the vibrations, another weird thing besides the vibrations was that i could here voices although the voices i heard i bealieve was my own giving myself positive affimations. I tried to separate but then vibrations stoped. I wish i wrote down my experience as soon as it happened cause all that might have been a dream. Well glad to join you guys.

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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2003, 21:10:55 »

Hi, I'm not new to Astral Pulse for I have followed all the threads daily for the past year or so. I never decided to register, because I was happy with reading others insights rather then share my own. I thought that until I saw this thread, and it is a great idea.

I definetly join, except I am very confused. You see,I cannot chose where to classify myself? I astral project daily once or twice on a regular basis, and never intentionally, they just happen.

I used to try persistently to project for 2 years straight, until I just sort of gave up and forgot about it. That is, until one night it just happened to me, and I've never been the same since. After the first one, no more came for about 6 months, (4-5 weeks ago?), when I had another the exact same way. I admit, the first 3-4 projections scared me half to death, and I became an insomniac. When you try and sleep, and your body goes, but your mind stays awake, and it feels like your in an earthquake, until finally you lift above your body and "open" your eyes. Terrifying to me infact, until I got used to it because I was sick of being scared. So I just let them happen and half fun with them, flying is very difficult (to me at least), but never gets boring. Projections happen to me randomly and unexpected, and take no effort, except if I use effort to try and stop it (which I usually do).

I don't know where I classify, I stopped logging my OOBE's after the first 5 or so, because it was too much work, and I just thought them for fun. But, which do I classify under? Expert? I project almost daily, sometimes twice a night. Hope every has fun with this! This seems like a great idea, keep up the good work.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2003, 01:38:10 »

Perhaps you are an intermediate Cryo_Optics. You have experienced many projections yet do not deliberately project once a week. Anyway don't worry too much about a classification as it is not a necessity.
Two unusual occurences for me today (Thurs). First I had a lucid dream of flying during an afternoon nap (perhaps an unconscious projection[?]).
Then I had a violent overload/attack of kundalini energy during a yoga session. So it's been a pretty wierd day![:O]
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2003, 02:09:09 »

Hey Tom.

Iíd say you fell into a light sleep, and had a glimpse of the astral. Iíve found that the dream imagery is the astral. Depending on how sleepy you are you can fall asleep in an instant Iíd say, and if youíre really good I guess you can cause sleep/projections in an instant. And that is a form of projection.
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Hey Kenny. [Cheesy]

I think the second week we start projection techniques.

Each Saturday Iíll focus on going to the pyramids.
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Hey Fyrence.
Iíve never actually tried that ĎRaom Gaomí mantra for remembering dreams. When I want to remember dreams I just remember them. I thought to myself Iíd actually try it this time but I never have. Iíd say it has worked for them and others, taking their world that the entire course is based on their experience. Iíd say just give it a go regularly, and it should build up and work for you.

You were probably still in trance. Thanks for sharing! [Cheesy]
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Hey DOA.
Interesting experiences, and congratulations on your progress!!!
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Hey Benny. Congratulations, and glad you joined! Hearing voices is a good sign. You were in a good altered state.
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Hey Cryo_Optics! Welcome! Thanks for posting and sharing! The Intermediate level and above is for consciously caused experiences. I agree with Grey though. The rankings are no necessity, but a motivation. I use it. [Smiley] It is great that you are having experiences.

Consciously going to sleep is a technique actually. I call it 'engaging the sleep'. Maybe you should try it consciously and see what happens. And you may want to have your experiences on record somewhere in the future.

Thanks for the support of the idea and the effort. Please keep sharing. [Cheesy]
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Thanks for sharing Greytraveller! Interesting experiences, and flying is always fun. [Cheesy]
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THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SHARING AND JOINING!!! [Cheesy] I can feel my excitement and motivation building as this Group Effort progresses! We can come and share our experiences and see the experiences of others, share and help, all focused into the coherent effort of mastering projection. I can feel my abilities about to skyrocket now. I'm sure this can be for all of us if we accept the opportunity. [Smiley]

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I laid down Wednesday night and visualized the picture of my friends home trying to go there. As I did my mind wandered and entered some kind of other reality, but when I became aware of this I would snap back and have no memory of specifically where I was or what was there. It was weird. This happened several times before I ended the session. Early Thursday morning I worked on staying aware while falling asleep but fell asleep this time.

I worked on a new projection routine for myself and I share it here. I shall work on this routine and also doing casual practices and energy work or casual energy work, etc., help from my guides and all, and Iíll read Astral Dynamics and other OBE books for inspiration.

Take care.

Phase One: Basic
Projection Model 1.0
1.   Opening
     a.   Intent/Focus on being in the here and now, and giving all in the here and now, in this session!!!
     b.   Help from Wuatun (guides), Source Self, Sibling Selves, and Rings of Agreement.
2.   Magnetization
     a.   Affirmations
     b.   Goals
     c.   Purposes
     d.   Related reading
3.   Warm-up Meditation
     a.   4-2 Meditation
     b.   Visualizations
     c.   Meditation Battery
     d.   Engaging the sleep
     e.   Tactiles (Swing, Rope, Point-shift)
     f.   Vibrations
     g.   Blanking the mind
     h.   Heart
     i.   Heart to imagery
     j.   Relax/release
     k.   Imagery
     l.   Mantras
     m.   Letting go
     n.   Imaginations
     o.   Object Focus
4.   Positioning
     a.   DEEP relaxation
     b.   Relax/move
     c.   Letting go
     d.   Engaging the sleep
5.   Separation
     a.   Visualizations
     b.   Meditation Battery
     c.   50-1
     d.   Tactiles (Swing, Rope, Point-shift, etc.)
     e.   Engaging the sleep
     f.   Vibrations
     g.   Blanking the mind
     h.   Heart
     i.   Heart to imagery
     j.   Relax/release
     k.   Imagery
     l.   Mantras
     m.   Letting go
     n.   Imaginations
     o.   Object Focus
     p.    4-2 Meditation
6.   Displacement
     a.   Move
          1 Roll out
          2 Sit up
          3 Float away
          4 Etc.
     b.   Direct will/intent
7.   Reentry
     a.   Manual reentry
     b.   Direct will/intent


My First Goal: By next Saturday I want to reach the den. What's your goal???
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2003, 04:56:06 »

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Originally posted by sweet_celestial_sounds


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Hey Kenny. [Cheesy]

I think the second week we start projection techniques.


the mail should come today. Smiley
quote:

Each Saturday Iíll focus on going to the pyramids.
...


Focus on getting us out too. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. [^]
quote:

Hey Tom.

Iíd say you fell into a light sleep, and had a glimpse of the astral. Iíve found that the dream imagery is the astral. Depending on how sleepy you are you can fall asleep in an instant Iíd say, and if youíre really good I guess you can cause sleep/projections in an instant. And that is a form of projection.


Hey Fyrence.
Iíve never actually tried that ĎRaom Gaomí mantra for remembering dreams. When I want to remember dreams I just remember them. I thought to myself Iíd actually try it this time but I never have. Iíd say it has worked for them and others, taking their world that the entire course is based on their experience. Iíd say just give it a go regularly, and it should build up and work for you.


hmm, is ROAM GOOAM a dream remembering mantra?
I really sahouldn't forget to finally use that mantra.

Anyway I remembered my dream last night, heres another journal part:


[night]
Iíve woken up and remembered dreaming odd and nightmarish.
I was with soms form of a group somewhere and someone ate from the tree of life or good and evil (not that there were any visible trees there, but that was told.)
Somehow the castle like thing I was in or seemed to have always been a place or falseness,sodomites,evil. synthetic colors there were.
I became angry at the one who ate (I know him in reality)
because I became cursed, double cursed, I thought I was already cursed.
the cure seemed to be to do something odd, act in certain ways (tap on the knee?) while naming the seven sins.
I always failed somehow.

Also I remember how someone was helping me but was beneath a standing up water window.
Couldnít be possible IRL for all I know.

Very odd.

I have to say:yesterday I went swimming with my sister (her idea) +my sister bought an Ice Cream, a Magnum, one of the limited edition calledÖ. SEVEN sins.
I said Ďgive me anything but not lust or sloth, I already had those.
Maybe (probably) it has something to do with my dream.


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THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SHARING AND JOINING!!! [Cheesy] I can feel my excitement and motivation building as this Group Effort progresses! We can come and share our experiences and see the experiences of others, share and help, all focused into the coherent effort of mastering projection. I can feel my abilities about to skyrocket now. I'm sure this can be for all of us if we accept the opportunity. [Smiley]


Yes, but I get the impression that the help part is not being used so much, I have not heard anyone posting something about helping others out or sending them (ESP)-energy.
That includes me, the only one I have tried to give energy is Celestail, but that was before this group effort started. [^]
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I worked on a new projection routine for myself and I share it here. I shall work on this routine and also doing casual practices and energy work or casual energy work, etc., help from my guides and all, and Iíll read Astral Dynamics and other OBE books for inspiration.

Take care.

Phase One: Basic
Projection Model 1.0
1.   Opening
     a.   Intent/Focus on being in the here and now, and giving all in the here and now, in this session!!!
     b.   Help from Wuatun (guides), Source Self, Sibling Selves, and Rings of Agreement.
2.   Magnetization
     a.   Affirmations
     b.   Goals
     c.   Purposes
     d.   Related reading
3.   Warm-up Meditation
     a.   4-2 Meditation
     b.   Visualizations
     c.   Meditation Battery
     d.   Engaging the sleep
     e.   Tactiles (Swing, Rope, Point-shift)
     f.   Vibrations
     g.   Blanking the mind
     h.   Heart
     i.   Heart to imagery
     j.   Relax/release
     k.   Imagery
     l.   Mantras
     m.   Letting go
     n.   Imaginations
     o.   Object Focus
4.   Positioning
     a.   DEEP relaxation
     b.   Relax/move
     c.   Letting go
     d.   Engaging the sleep
5.   Separation
     a.   Visualizations
     b.   Meditation Battery
     c.   50-1
     d.   Tactiles (Swing, Rope, Point-shift, etc.)
     e.   Engaging the sleep
     f.   Vibrations
     g.   Blanking the mind
     h.   Heart
     i.   Heart to imagery
     j.   Relax/release
     k.   Imagery
     l.   Mantras
     m.   Letting go
     n.   Imaginations
     o.   Object Focus
     p.    4-2 Meditation
6.   Displacement
     a.   Move
          1 Roll out
          2 Sit up
          3 Float away
          4 Etc.
     b.   Direct will/intent
7.   Reentry
     a.   Manual reentry
     b.   Direct will/intent


My First Goal: By next Saturday I want to reach the den. What's your goal???



you take care too, this routine might be very handy indeed. [8D]

goal. I don't set a timeline for goals, patience is a virtue, if you are setting timelines you are working like trading men are, western like, it is kinda the opposite of the timeless eternity of astral experience. [8D] [Smiley]


Peace. [^]
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2003, 19:01:16 »

Hey Kenny! It's great you're remembering your dreams so clearly. Keep it up. You may become aware in the astral soon. [Cheesy]

Some type of Void

1) I spent some time intending to be here and now, 2) I asked from help from my guides and connected with positive enery and projection positive energy around the globe, and 3) inwardly affirmed no less than success. 4) My warm-up was focusin on my heart for ten minutes (timed) and then I 5) lay down and DEEPLY relax. Then I focus on my heartbeat as best I could. It takes a few days of practicing this before I can really feel it. After a while it went totally dark. It is the middle of the day here, I was practicing about 1 PM, so light was filtering into and through my eyelids. It went completely dark for a moment. It's working. [Cheesy] I'll continue and post my progress!! I reached this time what Greytraveller would call 'Pre-projection,' and that term fits really well. [Cheesy]
I look foward to a full separation within the next few days, besides making it to Giza on Saturday. [Cheesy]

To inspiration and motivation! [Cheesy]

Sincerely,
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2003, 19:35:15 »

I'll join, but I'm at begginer. The farthest I've ever made with rope is the virtego feeling and the shaking. That was the first time I tried. I haven't made it close since. I don't know why but my eyes feel the need to automatically blink WHEN MY EYES ARE CLOSED. It's really annoying and screws up my concentration.
  After I attempt an OBE, the next day I have almsot no energy whatsoever. When using rope, do you need to close your chakras because I get jolted out of focus very fast.
  I'd appreciate any help that someone could offer.
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2003, 20:01:06 »

Not all happen without my consent. Usually I conciously project 3-4 timse a week using exactly what celestial said as "engaging sleep", I just stay concious while my body goes through the sleep proccess. If I don't do it willingly, it'll usually happen anyways. This is cool, I hope we get more people.

An odd thing happened today, I was in chemistry (it's 2 periods, so it's about hour and a half long...), and within 5 minutes, I was dozing off, and I just was playing with the black canvas of my eyelids, when I realized my body went numb, and I knew I was falling asleep. One thing lead to another, and energy rushed in and vibrations were going, and I said what the heck I'll just let it happen. I felt seperation, and was only a few feet from my body (astral sight hadn't opened yet), and I felt all the kids in my classroom as different energies instead of seeing them. Each persons was different, some weak and some depressing, other's strong and willful. It must have been only 20-30 seconds before I heard the teacher yelling at me to wake up, so I re-entered and got a demerit. Oh well, at least I have found something to do to keep me busy at school Smiley!
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