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Author Topic: Has anyone projected to Mars or any other planetary body that isn't Earth?  (Read 2988 times)
Vedyl
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« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2011, 23:03:53 »

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Since we're unable to measure consciousness or even adequately define it, the definition for sentient life as far as I'm concerned is intelligence and self-awareness.

Ah fine..
I still dont regret saying what I said  grin grin cheesy
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« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2011, 02:06:14 »

Ah fine..
I still dont regret saying what I said  grin grin cheesy

The moral of the story; you can learn a lot from watching Star Trek! cheesy
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« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2011, 07:00:26 »

Yes its possible to astral travel to planets outside of earth, the main problem with taking anything too seriously in the astral world is that the astral is very sensitive to our perception of it, the whole landscape and contents of what we are seeing can be modified by how we are seeing it mentally, a preconception, an expection, etc.

So seeing a city on mars may not necessarily mean that there actually exists a city on mars, it could have just been a manifestation of our deep subconscious expectations, but on the other hand it could also have been an actual city on mars, the only way to know whether what we are seeing is something true or false, subjective or objective in other words is by learning how to work with the consciousness, consciously.

Thats why so many traditions; Buddhist for example constantly emphasize the importance of being mindful from moment to moment, day to day, this helps to develop a discrimination between subjective thought projections/internal dialogue and external reality to really perceive them in their proper forms.
Umm your not actually in the astral when space travelling your in the planetary matrix or physical realm


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« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2011, 15:24:36 »

Dear United4ever:
I think now is the time to define terminologies.
Most people go by the physical/RTZ-> astral -> mental ->buddhic ->monadic terms to describe nonphysical scapes.  Others use consciousness descriptors, such as Focus one (or ten)-> Focus 12 (or two)-> 23 or 27/ 3 or 4-> and so on, to go on to the more abstract, instead of the scapes themselves.

These are fairly standard, but I see some of the descriptors you are using seem different or differently used, such as 'planetary matrix' (which I'm going to guess is the RTZ or focus 12) and spiritual or light realms which I'm going to guess mean astral or buddhic (or even mental, as light is as much a concept as anything else).
Would you do some sort of comparison for clarification purposes?

And to the 'focus levels' guys:  Yes, I'm probably not correct, but bear with me, I'm just trying to illustrate a principle here and nothing more.
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