How I Got Out For The First Time

[missym]

missym, Why do you need to finish school?  I mean I get it, but it seems to me to be an awful waste of time and money. 

I guess I just assumed you gained all of this knowledge by completing specific courses in University/College.. If you haven't completed Uni, then that gives me a ton of relief knowing I don't have to endure 8 years and 40,000 dollars in debt to become as intelligent in this area as you are .

[Fresco]

I just went to university for the partying and getting laid, I never really learned much

[kurtykurt42]

Too cool for school. 

[personalreality]

I'm working on my psych master and I didn't learn anything that I know from school.  In fact, college is the biggest waste of time intellectually I've ever experienced in my life.  Well...if you're any kind of intelligent.  If you're a dumb ass then college will be right up your alley.  The only reason to go to college is because no one will give your theories the time of day unless your name has some variation of letters after it.  I have a better understanding of the human psyche than most of my professors.

You will need the degree if you want to have an impact on your field, unless your theory is so mind blowingly innovative that no one can ignore it.  But the sick part is, what you're really doing in college besides paying for a piece of paper is networking so that you have the right people backing up your research when the time comes.  You learn the nomenclature in college so you can speak the speak of the scientists (all people in college are becoming scientists no matter what the major because modern college is based on the modern paradigm/religion of science, even if you're studying art).  I use a lot of terms from time to time that I've heard in school, but what have i learned?  Nothing really, just a way to articulate my theories so that the other followers of the church of science will understand me better.  That doesn't mean learning has taken place.  But if that's all you really expect from college then you're straight.  I mean they say that the IQ test doesn't measure an objective degree of intelligence, it measures how well you have adapted to this moment in our society.  Abraham Lincoln would be considered mentally retarded based on our IQ tests because he's not adapted to our paradigm, he's not used to how our culture works these days.  If you wanna pass the IQ test then college is great.  If you want to genuinely learn and expand and develop your own understanding of your reality and the reality of your chosen field and be able to expand on that, then study independently.  I'm not saying don't go to school.  There are always some great professors who get it, who understand what education is supposed to be.  But they aren't really the problem, the problem is the government and their regulations on schools, the administration is ready to bow down and kiss the ass of anyone who will give them money, and they're more than willing to use your money however they please, even if that means building that athletic center and not giving your department enough money to provide scantrons or hard copies of the syllabus. 

I swear, you guys always get me fired up about something. 

Point being, I don't sound this smart because of school.  I sound this smart because I'm passionate about my interests and so I spend time studying them, thinking about them, meditating on them and trying to solve what I see as problems.  I guarantee you sound crazy smart if we find what you're a genius in.  Everyone is a genius when it comes to something, everyone has their thing that they just get better than anyone else.  I get ontology, the study of reality.  That for me includes humans and human behavior because I think humans are reality (well beings in general, but humans are the easiest subjects to study on earth).  You've got your thing.

And Anemani, you're not going to learn what you're really interested in in college.  You're going to learn how what you thought you liked isn't really anything like you thought it was.  Then you're going to change majors.  Ultimately you'll learn more on your own.  I HIGHLY recommend that when you get to college, take some of the classes for your major first, even before the gen eds.  This way you'll get a taste and be able to change your major before you've committed 4 years and 30,000 dollars.

I gotta say, too cool for school too 

Missym, if you still doubt it, Kurt learned about his stuff from 'Astral Projection'!  There isn't any school I know that's gonna teach this kind of stuff.  It seems that you'll be taught what "you get" when projecting, so keep your radar up when you project missym.

[Fresco]

Scientists would mock and never accept astral projection anyways, even if someone wanted to teach it in school.
I can just picture one of those arrogant profs with a smirk on his face saying AP is unsupported, pseudo-science

[kurtykurt42]

Before attending the University of Wisconsin I attended a technical college where I received certifications in all aspects of computer technology, networks and databases. My major at the University was Computer Science and I spent a lot of time with professors and students that where incredibly brilliant. My secondary focus was Electrical Engineering and Mathematics. Without going to college I don't think I would have spent much time learning many of the things that I learned.

Another important thing that I learned, was how to study and manage my time more efficiently. Some of the tough classes required 20 - 30 hours of studying a week. Many of the students just gave up but I decided to push on. Out of the several hundred in my freshman class, there where only about 30 in my graduating class. I'm grateful that I got a chance to study under such brilliant professors and meet a lot of very interesting and brilliant individuals.

[zareste]

if someone is dumb enough to say astral projection is fake, I wouldn't call them a scientist. They're on the same level as 6-day creationists

[Anemani]

if someone is dumb enough to say astral projection is fake, I wouldn't call them a scientist. They're on the same level as 6-day creationists

<.< so I guess that means you are calling me dumb

[owl]

Personalreality,
 Have you heard of Amit Goswami? If not I think you would find his work very interesting. You can look him up on youtube or he has quite a few books out. I first listened to him on youtube being interviewed on Coast to Coast radio.

Amit Gaswami is a quantum physicist who is proving God or downward causation through science.
I think you would find some answers to some of your questions.

[Fresco]

if someone is dumb enough to say astral projection is fake, I wouldn't call them a scientist. They're on the same level as 6-day creationists

You just described 70 to 80% of all scientists there (by calling them dumb).  At least in my estimation.

Just spent 53 minutes in total trance.  The buzzing noise is getting slightly louder while my vibrations are a bit softer.
The buzzing sounds like someone put an airconditioning fan right next to me.  I can only hear it in my left ear, less so in my right ear
(maybe something to do with left-brain dominance??)

[zareste]

I wasn't describing scientists at all. No percentage

[kurtykurt42]

Are you a scientist zareste?

[zareste]

that's not the right subject. I'm scientific but not a scientist by profession

[personalreality]

owl,

I am very familiar with amit goswami and many of his works.  thank you for your consideration.

maybe I should clarify because if you think I have questions then I have failed to articulate myself thoroughly.  I suppose this issue is bigger than my feelings toward higher education.  This world has lost its soul.  When I say that I refer to the overpowering majority.  Obviously that's not everybody, otherwise what are we doing here discussing questions like this?  My point is that the people who do make advances in whatever their field may be usually aren't us.  They are usually the soulless many who either want the money, want the fame, or were told what to do.  And unfortunately their advancements are often well within the boundaries set forth by the elite who dictates how our society works.  So what has this done to science?  It has smothered it.  Now researchers spend their time studying things like "Does disgust make a person more conservative?" (one of my professor's claim to fame)  What practical application does that have?  POLITICS!  Of course.  Have you seen politics today?  It's disgusting, yet this is the kind of thing our research goes to prop up.  If you will recall, I said the majority, not everybody.  Of course there are those out there who, despite the lack of corporate funding, still set up a lab in their apartment and build a teleportation device.  But it's the people who play by the "rules" of things like capitalism, greed and "democracy" that get funding and get headlines, thus they make advances.

I mean I guess you can't expect much more than the technology of the day will allow.  But then you have people like Kurt and his pals who are doing something that our modern technology says is just ridiculous.  I'm not saying science isn't real or something.  I'm saying two things.  One, you gotta play the game if you want to get the prize.  Two, science is not static, it is meant to be fluid and ever-changing, open to new possibilities.  Religion is static.  Yet science has become static.  The work being done on the large scale these days is sooo afraid of seeming too "superstitious" so they won't touch science of the mind.

Thank you still.

[kurtykurt42]

I thought I was a scientist until I spent the day over on Neburu. There planet is a dyson sphere and they have the ability to enter various density levels.  

You have to gamble to win, as I like to say!

I bet your teachers get a kick out of you personalreality.