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« Reply #285 on: December 03, 2010, 20:12:44 »

It sort of reminds me of the coneheads (vintage snl) going 'meep' 'meep'.
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« Reply #286 on: December 04, 2010, 21:39:18 »

I wonder if the guy who runs this website uses the same earbeep method to achieve AP: http://soundcurrentrider.com/

The term Sound Current rider does seem to suggest this
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« Reply #287 on: December 09, 2010, 04:08:46 »

Have a look at this guy's website and tell me if you agree with his findings regarding the astral planes:

http://www.rickrichards.com/Astral.html
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« Reply #288 on: December 09, 2010, 11:40:11 »

Have a look at this guy's website and tell me if you agree with his findings regarding the astral planes:

http://www.rickrichards.com/Astral.html
His experiences are legit and I can say I've experienced things pretty much exactly like what he experienced in regards to his negative encounter. I think the conclusions he has drawn from his one negative experience are foolish and not very informed or objective. His experiences are fine, but like many people he has assumed a great many things and as a result his conclusions are flawed heavily. It's quite sad, as it seems like he's one of the many people who starts out but then has one negative experience and is too afraid to project again. It's mind-blowing how much of a disservice these people do to themselves by reacting out of fear like this.
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« Reply #289 on: December 09, 2010, 12:00:45 »

I had a dream I was at Drew Barrymore's house last night (yes THE Drew Barrymore).  apparently I was suffering from my bad back and she gave me flexeril muscle relaxers.  Damn, I have the weirdest dreams  tongue.  And no, unfortunately I didnt get to sleep with her  cry
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« Reply #290 on: December 09, 2010, 14:57:00 »

Have a look at this guy's website and tell me if you agree with his findings regarding the astral planes:

http://www.rickrichards.com/Astral.html
I've just started reading it, but I'd like to point out some really keen variables that I feel illustrate some of my points nicely.
He does make some good points that I wish to show here... they're just not points that he knew he was making.  Smiley

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Up I soared, but as I flew higher and higher, I started feeling a little apprehensive. High in the atmosphere, I entered some clouds, became disoriented, then somewhat scared. It was at that very moment when I felt scared that I returned to my body.
This is a perfect example of what NOT to do.  He opened his emotions here, obviously unknowingly, and it caused his return.
If he had kept that "apprehensive" in check, he wouldn't have become disoriented, and if he didn't become disoriented he wouldn't have become "somewhat scared"... ending his experience.  He actually would have made it to the moon just fine had he not let his emotions overtake his experience.

This is another great illustration of why you shouldn't let your thoughts get away from you:
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Then, just as I was about to walk through the door, someone or something grabbed my neck from behind. Something was holding me back. Whoever or whatever it was, had me by my throat, as if trying to strangle me.
This is where his troubles began... his thoughts of being "held back" and something trying to "strangle me" really did him in here.
It's VERY IMPORTANT to not jump to conclusions when you're projecting.  This can be very hard to do because we're generally used to doing it here in the physical.

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I turned and fell to the floor. I tried to get up but all my efforts were in vain. Suddenly, I couldn't breath. I started making sounds as if I was choking, albeit I felt no pain or suffering. 'Something is very wrong,' I thought, scared. I turned and tried to crawl back to my bed but I still could not move; The only thing I could manage to do was turn my head and see the foot of my bed.
At this point he's just making things even worse.  Unfortunately, at this point, he's also too far gone that trying to recover from this "fear loop" would be almost impossible.  He'd have to first calm down... and that's not gonna happen.

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I intuitively felt whoever or whatever was holding me down was trying to "KILL" me, or something must be wrong with my physical body. I was scared, very scared. I wanted to return to my physical body. But I couldn't move.

After struggling with this strange paralysis and choke hold for what seemed like about 10 seconds, I finally decided to just completely relax and "will" myself back to my body. A few seconds later, I felt the weight of my physical body. I woke up and immediately felt my face. I remember recalling my name to be sure it was still me inside my body. It was.
Obviously, he was in no real danger the entire time.  His own thoughts and 'conclusion jumping' caused the experience he had.  The only good thing that came out of this was that he DID relax enough to shift back to his body.  But *ALL* of this could have been avoided had he understood beforehand that THOUGHT = DIRECT ACTION.

This is what I try to teach here on the Astral Pulse and is KEY to having enjoyable and spiritually growing experiences.

I'll read on... and perhaps post some more stuff I find in regards to this website if I find more stuff to point out that I feel should assist people in understanding astral mechanics.

EDIT: Ah, reading on... this guy seems to have the "mystical" view of the astral... he seems to be terrified of certain things, and through that, I can totally understand why he thinks the way he does.  IN MY OPINION, he has no firm understanding of what he's doing.  This is why I feel the Astral Pulse is miles ahead of most places.  You're in no danger on the Astral... simple as that really.  The only danger is that which you unwittingly create for yourself.
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« Reply #291 on: December 09, 2010, 21:37:23 »

I'm not so much interested in his fears, much more interested in what you guys think of his interpretations re: the astral planes.  
I especially liked the part where he realizes some religions actually get off on watching people 'burn in hell", when really its just a creation of their mind (and messed up interpretation of scriptures)
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« Reply #292 on: December 09, 2010, 21:46:55 »

I'm not so much interested in his fears, much more interested in what you guys think of his interpretations re: the astral planes.  
I especially liked the part where he realizes some religions actually get off on watching people 'burn in hell", when really its just a creation of their mind (and messed up interpretation of scriptures)
I figured I'd take the opportunity to use it as a learning experience for people wondering.  Smiley

But yeah...
I don't care for his conclusions.  Smiley
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« Reply #293 on: December 10, 2010, 09:17:00 »

Mmmm, on the other hand what he experienced could have been another entity which had the intention to scare him away from the astral. I've had very similar experiences to what he has had, but at no point did I feel I was in any danger whatsoever, and the last thing on my mind was a fear for my physical body/detachment from the physical body (such myths are pure fantasized, romanticized nonsense, IMO). He was never in any danger, but I can understand why his fear might have gone into overdrive and persuade him to draw those bad conclusions. Such experiences are immensely painful, I won't lie about that, but honestly it's not "that" bad. Compared to pain here in the physical, it is bearable, it's more shocking than traumatizing, and you can return to your body at the speed of thought. He may make of his experiences what he wishes, but he has no right making presumptious conclusions and then spreading them around on what some might take as a reputable source.
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