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Brothajeff
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2012, 00:33:53 »

Nice! This is great! I'll get those Binaural beats and listen to them. Smiley Thank you so much! I'll post if anything happens.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 23:06:37 »

Thanks for the links. I downloaded the music. I did feel some weird feelings while listening to it. But I don't think I was in a relaxed enough state for anything to happen.
I recently had another weird experience.

I woke up early one morning around 6am and I decided to try to OOBE. I didn't move and I felt the heavy feeling come on and then the buzzing and vibrations happened. I heard my wife's voice say something through the vibrations, but I ignored it. After the vibrations stopped I rolled with my shoulders out of my body. I sat up on my bed on my knees and it was still all black. I then thought 'AWARENESS NOW!' but nothing happened. I tried again and again. I still couldn't see. I then tried to say it, but nothing came out of my voice. I don't understand why I couldn't see. I then thought why don't I just try to open my eyes. I opened them but to my surprise, I opened my physical eyes. I could see my pillow and everything next to it. I closed them again and I was trying to see then slowly I saw some colour. I saw my side table. But it felt as though I was in a dream. Not having an OOBE. You can tell when it feels really real and then feels like a dream. I saw my side table and saw the deck of cards with one card laying face up. I picked it up to read. The number said 67. And there was just 67 all across the card. It was really weird. I thought. This must be a dream, because there is no such card. I flipped it over and then more cards just materialized behind that card and poured out of my hands. I knew I was in a dream by now so I thought, take me to the physical plane! but nothing happened. So i just decided to float. I floated out of my bedroom into a hallway. It wasn't my apartment anymore. It was a weird house. I floated down the hall. I felt really happy and peaceful. I saw a bedroom door open with a light on inside. My friend was working at her laptop. I floated into her room and right away she noticed me or looked at me. She looked suddenly freaked out. She got up and ran quickly out the door to another bedroom door and knocked on it. I'm not sure if this was a dream or real. But it felt like a dream. I messaged her today to ask if anything similar to this happened to her. I'll find out soon I guess.

I'm just finding it frustrating that I can't see. I used to be able to see when I was scared of the vibrations and I would try to move. Then I would see and I would see weird things. Now that I'm relaxed I don't see and I wait till the vibrations stop and I try to roll out. Would it be better if I try to roll out when the vibrations happen? Next time I'm going to try to open my eyes and test if that is really the physical world that I'm seeing when I open them. Maybe it just looks of real that I think  it is and that is really my astral body trying to get out. I'm not sure....

Anyways, I'll keep experimenting. Thanks for the tips and the music to help. I'm still nervous to try it when I go to bed because it's so dark. I feel like something there waiting for me when it's so dark.

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2012, 04:23:44 »

Brothajeff,

Have you tried speeding up the vibrations? Robert Monroe used to say that speeding up the vibrations facilitated the separation. Speed them up by thinking of it, by giving a mental command, etc.
At first it may not speed them up much but eventually they increase their frequency until they produce a steady effect, with much less rumble. You may even feel a tingling.
Supposedly you disassociate easily with the higher vibrations.

You think of floating up and it's easy. According to what he wrote. I've never had a lot of experience with that.
But I can relate with all the dreaming, false awakenings, etc.    I've had some frustrating experiences.
Anyway, you might want to try that And try to do these things when you're rested, not sleepy. You'll have greater mental clarity.
And maybe prepare yourself by calming down, recite some reassuring mantra, or just condition yourself to be calm, collected, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2012, 04:39:39 »

I'm sorry it has been a while since I posted. I've been having a bunch of weird experiences lately. Mostly if I wake up early in the morning, I can have 3 OOBEs in a row. But they are really weird. I roll out of my body. It's really hard to see still. I just try focusing on my hands and they become clearer and once I see them really clearly I know I am good to go and explore. While I look at my hands I say "awareness now!" "Clarity now." and every time I say it, my hands become clearer and clearer. This morning after checking out my heads and making myself aware, I looked at my night table where I keep my deck of playing cards. I forgot to turn the card over before I went to sleep, so I couldn't see right away. So I decided to just pick it up and look at it. The card had the number 3 on it and in the center the word Pablo. This was really weird. Once I saw this, I knew right away that this couldn't be the playing card on my night table in the real world. I looked at my bed because I wanted to see my body sleeping. My body wasn't there.

So far, every time  I have had OOBEs intentionally, I haven't been able to see my body. Then for some reason I saw my bother in my bed and he saw me and started screaming. Why would my brother be in my bed?! I then thought I must just be lucid dreaming. Whenever I try to have a OOBE it seems like they turn into lucid dreams. But when I used to be afraid of the weird buzzing noises when I first started having them, I all ways tried to fight the buzzing and get out of it. I would flip around out of my body and I would feel like goo or a blob. It also felt very very real and vivid. I feel like that was my real OOBE and the intentional ones I do now are just lucid dreams.

Sometimes after the buzzing noise stops and I am paralyzed I think when I roll out of my body I should keep my eyes closed. Once I tried to roll out of my body I opened my eyes and I would still be in my bed but when I closed my eyes i would be out of my body, like two places at once. So I thought maybe my mind is tricking me and after the buzzing stops when I open my eyes, that's my real OOBE and when my eyes are closed that's just a Lucid dream? Next time I'm going to try to move when I open my eyes and see what happens. I hope this doesn't sound too confusing.

If anyone has any thoughts or advice or the same experience I have then please tell me about them. I would really love to hear about it. 
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2012, 04:44:16 »

Brothajeff,

Have you tried speeding up the vibrations? Robert Monroe used to say that speeding up the vibrations facilitated the separation. Speed them up by thinking of it, by giving a mental command, etc.
At first it may not speed them up much but eventually they increase their frequency until they produce a steady effect, with much less rumble. You may even feel a tingling.
Supposedly you disassociate easily with the higher vibrations.

You think of floating up and it's easy. According to what he wrote. I've never had a lot of experience with that.
But I can relate with all the dreaming, false awakenings, etc.    I've had some frustrating experiences.
Anyway, you might want to try that And try to do these things when you're rested, not sleepy. You'll have greater mental clarity.
And maybe prepare yourself by calming down, recite some reassuring mantra, or just condition yourself to be calm, collected, etc.


Thank you for your advice. I will try to speed up the vibrations. It seems that they are speeding up and less loud and I seems to stop hearing voices when they happen. I'll try to float up next time. Next time I seem to be having a lucid dream and not an OOBE, should I call for my guide to help me out?
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